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P. 443 - A Night at Busch Gardens' Christmas Celebration

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I was looking up the animals at BGW. I didn't see anything similar to that of BGT where it is like a zoo setting. All I saw is that there is an animal show. That's about it right? Other than that I don't see other exhibits for animals. Unless I am wrong.

 

They have an assortment of North American animals including Bald Eagles and Grey Wolves.

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I was looking up the animals at BGW. I didn't see anything similar to that of BGT where it is like a zoo setting. All I saw is that there is an animal show. That's about it right? Other than that I don't see other exhibits for animals. Unless I am wrong.

 

You'll find most of the animals, including the Gray Wolves, on the path between Ireland and France. They also have Clydesdale horses, sheep, and highland cows in Scotland. But their animals exhibits are not nearly as extensive as they are at BGT.

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Where BGT lacks in the zoo aspect, it makes up for it with a botanical gardens variety. Where at BGT you can go to an enclosure area and watch some Hyenas panting in the heat, at BGW you can see the stable dog trainers interact with the dogs in the fenced in areas near the stable. Or you will walk by a random nicely set field with oxen. It's nothing attention grabbing like the hippo or cheetah display at BGT, but the atmosphere at BGW seems like it blends together much better to provide a scenic and relaxing feel.

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Where BGT lacks in the zoo aspect, it makes up for it with a botanical gardens variety. Where at BGT you can go to an enclosure area and watch some Hyenas panting in the heat, at BGW you can see the stable dog trainers interact with the dogs in the fenced in areas near the stable. Or you will walk by a random nicely set field with oxen. It's nothing attention grabbing like the hippo or cheetah display at BGT, but the atmosphere at BGW seems like it blends together much better to provide a scenic and relaxing feel.

 

oh. . disagree completely.

 

at BGT, the Gorilla/Chimp Path, the Lions/Tiger Path, the Kangaroos/Wallabees, the bird sanctuary, the Crocodiles, and the "hidden path" that features the hyenas & the Hippos you mentioned.

 

and the biggie.. feeding the giraffes by hand on the safari (upcharge but worth it), and the Serengeti plain that's veritable from train and from the restaurant?

 

we LOVED BGT.

 

we also loved BGW.. it's just going to depend on what you prefer, the animals, or the overall feel of the park & Rides.

 

tho BGW has better rides (in my opinion) and is an absolutely stunningly gorgeous park, we liked BGT just as much, only for different reasons. . the animals.

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Where BGT lacks in the zoo aspect, it makes up for it with a botanical gardens variety. Where at BGT you can go to an enclosure area and watch some Hyenas panting in the heat, at BGW you can see the stable dog trainers interact with the dogs in the fenced in areas near the stable. Or you will walk by a random nicely set field with oxen. It's nothing attention grabbing like the hippo or cheetah display at BGT, but the atmosphere at BGW seems like it blends together much better to provide a scenic and relaxing feel.

 

And you'll see deer grazing near the railroad tracks, or along the Rhine River, too.

 

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Speaking of InvadR, how about we start the new year with another update? Yes, Christmas Town may be ending today, but coaster construction moves on. I was at the park yesterday and noticed that 1) they've been increasing the theming on the station and 2) the lift hill is now crossing over the railroad tracks.

 

Let's have a look.

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Let the hype continue!

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First coaster of 2017: The holiday version of Tempesto, . . .

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. . . which is pretty much like the regular version of Tempesto.

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As usual, we'll start this update with a train ride.

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Hello, InvadR. How's it hangin'?

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Looks about the same on the left side of the train . . .

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. . . but what's this up ahead?

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Yes, it's the steel for the lift hill and first drop crossing the railroad tracks.

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Here's a view from Caribou Station.

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This is really going to change the skyline of New France.

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I hope InvadR doesn't make Le Scoot feel "inadequate."

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Let's have a look at what's happening near the train station.

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Implements of destruction/construction on the path to the log flume.

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Note the new logs on the station.

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Here's a look from the bridge into Germany. I think this is going to be a very nicely themed ride.

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InvadR wishes everyone at TPR a Happy New Year.

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Well, that's done. Time for a brew (O'Connor Norfolk Canyon Ale, if you're curious).

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And best wishes of the season from Christmas Town's Polar Pathway (aka Escape from Pompeii). Thanks for reading.

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Thanks for the update, chuck. Does anyone know any reasoning for the decision to use steel supports, as opposed to wood, on this particular project?

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Thanks for the update, chuck. Does anyone know any reasoning for the decision to use steel supports, as opposed to wood, on this particular project?

 

As an Engineer, I think one reason for steel would be the ability to construct larger spans. If you look here,

 

 

You can see that the lift needs to bridge both Le Scoot and two train tracks. That's a lot of distance, and I'm sure it's easier to built a steel structure that can handle those forces than a wooden one. And after that, they probably didn't want to leave steel just in one section like that, so they made it aesthetically consistent everywhere else, maybe? Zeus looks kinda weird with only a little bit of steel structure to span Cyclops.

 

 

I'm sure there's more reasons, (less bulky, but stronger structure and less wear and tear in a humid climate is why I think Fun Spot went with steel on their GCI and new Gravity Group) but I think the large spans would be the main one.

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^When BGW announced InvadR, they mentioned that reduced maintenance was the main reason for going with a steel structure.

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^When BGW announced InvadR, they mentioned that reduced maintenance was the main reason for going with a steel structure.

 

Well this is a great idea since the last wooden coaster at a Busch park (Gwazi) didn't fair so well.

 

Im not saying its solely BGT's fault for what happened to Gwazi but it is a good idea to make life easier on yourself.

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In regards to the steel structure/maintenance points. I'm sure that a large part of the reasoning has to do with how many rides this crosses over and under. I feel like It would be more difficult to perform maintenance on the structure with everything under it.

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^I'd also contend that Busch Gardens took a lot of the hard lessons from Gwazi to heart when developing Invadr. Maintenance and upkeep of the dueling wooden coaster in Florida was part of what led to the ride being decommissioned, so I'm sure the thought was to spend whatever money necessary to ensure that less maintenance would be required on the structure itself so that the ride could last far longer overall.

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Also think about the fact that less time doing maintence on the support structure equates into more time performing upkeep on the rides theming.

 

I pray that they keep those trains in tip top condition. They're too beautiful to let rot.

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I think Busch Williamsburg will do great upkeeps on the train. Considering the park is over 40 years old, it feels like a newer park. This is one of the best maintained parks in the country.

 

I don't doubt their ability. Im thinking that less time maintaining the support structure will equate into more

time maintaining the theming.

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Thanks for the update, great pics! I'm really excited to ride InvadR in the spring, and finally experience Tempesto! I haven't been to the park in a few years and I think the two new coasters will really round the already awesome coaster line up!

 

When do the water rides (Le Scoot, Pompeii) usually open in the season for BGW? I have never ridden Le Scoot... therefore I have sinned. I need to atone for this and go with the ride is running.

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Opening the water rides in the spring can be hit or miss. It may depend on the weather and staffing. Then again, I've been to BGW when it was snowing in the spring yet people were still riding Escape from Pompeii.

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Thanks to all of those with the good input on my wood structure/steel structure question. It was interesting and it all makes sense.

 

I have never ridden Le Scoot... therefore I have sinned.

Yes, you have. Shame.

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I emailed the park but waiting for a response. Does anyone with a platinum membership (the one where you can visit all the other parks) know if you have to process the pass first at Williamsburg? I haven't bought one yet but I'll be in Florida before getting to Williamsburg and want to go to Busch Gardens Tampa Bay, SeaWorld and Aquatica so the platinum pass made the most sense as long as I don't have to go to Williamsburg first.

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I emailed the park but waiting for a response. Does anyone with a platinum membership (the one where you can visit all the other parks) know if you have to process the pass first at Williamsburg? I haven't bought one yet but I'll be in Florida before getting to Williamsburg and want to go to Busch Gardens Tampa Bay, SeaWorld and Aquatica so the platinum pass made the most sense as long as I don't have to go to Williamsburg first.

 

You can bring a copy of the voucher they email to you and bring it to the guest relations windows of the other parks. My friend was able to do this during our recent trip to Florida in November.

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I emailed the park but waiting for a response. Does anyone with a platinum membership (the one where you can visit all the other parks) know if you have to process the pass first at Williamsburg? I haven't bought one yet but I'll be in Florida before getting to Williamsburg and want to go to Busch Gardens Tampa Bay, SeaWorld and Aquatica so the platinum pass made the most sense as long as I don't have to go to Williamsburg first.

 

You can bring a copy of the voucher they email to you and bring it to the guest relations windows of the other parks. My friend was able to do this during our recent trip to Florida in November.

 

Thank you! That's perfect.

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Just an fyi for anyone if they were in the same situation, this is the email they sent me. Doesn't really make a ton of sense though since the prices for the other parks are different from Williamsburg so I find it kind of odd that wherever you redeem it will just become your home park.

 

"When you purchase your Passes Online, you are given an Order Number, and where the vouchers are redeemed that becomes your Home Park. That means if you redeem the Order Number in Florida, you are only entitled to the benefits of that Park. If you will purchase your Passes and send me the Order Number, I can redeem your vouchers here and mail you your Passes."

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