Hercules Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Just brainstorming a bit here, Shane. Also, will the color coded wristbands be enforced at the entrance to the line? Will that require more employees to be stationed there to enforce it? And will there need to be an excessive amount of clocks located around the park to ensure guests not wearing watches are perfectly aware of their ride time remaining? In theory, I love the idea. Enforcing the policies could prove to be difficult though...at least in my mind (which has been known to malfunction from time to time). I agree with all that was said, and all of the questions asked. I kind of feel like the timed thing could just create a bit of a disaster. I think the only way that timed would be feasible is with RFID, but then that would drive down your profits for sure. I think the ideas are there, but it will be a tough time implimenting and operating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiroo Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 What is the projected capacity of the park Shane? Also, will you rotate colors on a daily basis? What would stop me from coming one day, getting a blue wrist band, not taking it off and then coming back the next day and enjoying the blue 4 hours for free? A final question is how will you enforce the times? Professional security? What if you are waiting in line when time expires? Will it be a slide attendant's responsibility to deny access? I can hypothesize a myriad of problems with beligerent guest who don't want to leave. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of trying to minimize crowds, but the truth is that for you (park operator), the more crowded the better. From a business perspective, I'd seriously urge you to consider just selling regular all-day tickets and scrap the armband thing. Best wishes and keep the updates coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 And will season pass people be wearing the wristbands? Because there could also be confusion with the regular price guests wondering why some people don't have wristbands, and then complaining that they got kicked out of the area, while some people that got there the same time are still allowed access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisWiz Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I've gone back and forth on my feelings of the price of the season pass and now I think I agree with it. That's one problem we have down here in the next valley at Seven Peaks. You can get season passes for around 30 dollars, and it's always insanely packed with tons of kids. So as others have mentioned, and I agree, that it will cut down on the "let the waterpark babysit my kids" thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I seem to remember Clementon selling season passes for $129 a year with the old owners and being quite successful. They are pretty much a glorified waterpark. Wristband solution, you don't haglgle with the customer if they get ready to go down a slide 10 minutes after the time limit. The ride attendant cuts the wristband, says have a nice ride and come back soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 ^I really like that idea...very simple, yet effective solution. And to keep people from coming back the next day with the same wristband, simply have security guards waiting at the park exit to cut them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montezooma Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 Shane, I like the pricing scale you proposed. As for the :30 and :45 purchase times, it makes perfect sense to me. However, concerning that chart that you posted, I can only imagine the countless numbers of GP who might stand there confused as hell as to what it all means. My prayers are with you and customer service on that one. Yes I hear you on this. It is a bit confusing and we are trying to work out a simpler way to explain this. Just brainstorming a bit here, Shane. Also, will the color coded wristbands be enforced at the entrance to the line? Will that require more employees to be stationed there to enforce it? And will there need to be an excessive amount of clocks located around the park to ensure guests not wearing watches are perfectly aware of their ride time remaining? In theory, I love the idea. Enforcing the policies could prove to be difficult though...at least in my mind (which has been known to malfunction from time to time). No there will not be extra employees needed as the colored wristbands will be monitored at the entrance to each of the attractions where we would already have an attendant. For instance if you had on a red wrist band and your 4 hours where up then you would not be able to enter the lazy river or you would not be able to enter the playstructure. In theory if you wanted to hang out at the park and watch other people do things then you could do that. We will not kick out those whose wrist bands are expired they will just no longer be able to participate. At first it was our thought to just have an admission price and you could stay as long as you liked; 1 hour or all day. But we really have experience a MUCH greater interest that we had initially thought. There are still some uncertainties as to what our daily attendance will be and we thought it would be easy to start off with this time system and then drop it if it is not necessary rather than the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montezooma Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 What is the projected capacity of the park Shane? Also, will you rotate colors on a daily basis? What would stop me from coming one day, getting a blue wrist band, not taking it off and then coming back the next day and enjoying the blue 4 hours for free? A final question is how will you enforce the times? Professional security? What if you are waiting in line when time expires? Will it be a slide attendant's responsibility to deny access? I can hypothesize a myriad of problems with beligerent guest who don't want to leave. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of trying to minimize crowds, but the truth is that for you (park operator), the more crowded the better. From a business perspective, I'd seriously urge you to consider just selling regular all-day tickets and scrap the armband thing. Best wishes and keep the updates coming! The park capacity is 1500 people at one time. If we hit that mark we have to stop allowing people entrance. If we sold only all day passes then we could hit that capacity and if everyone decided to stay all day that would be it for us. With the time system we may hit capacity but every 4 hours we would have a complete turnover, so you see it is in our best interest to do the timed system allowing for a greater daily attendance. We will use the same colors for the same times every day. When you purchase you wristband you will also be given an admittance ticket that is date stamped. Even if you come back the next day with your same wrist band you will not be allowed into the park without a new ticket. Of course you will always have upset guests who don't understand or feel they were cheated out of a few minutes. No matter how perfect a system there is not way around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montezooma Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 I've gone back and forth on my feelings of the price of the season pass and now I think I agree with it. That's one problem we have down here in the next valley at Seven Peaks. You can get season passes for around 30 dollars, and it's always insanely packed with tons of kids. So as others have mentioned, and I agree, that it will cut down on the "let the waterpark babysit my kids" thinking. Agreed, if you sell them for too cheap then the park becomes a day care center. We are really debating the price back and forth at work. I appreciate all the thoughts and opinions on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montezooma Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 And here is a quick photo update I can't wait to see this dump "Hang Five" the blue slide is starting to take shape "Mondo" without its start or finish These two slides are going to have a fast splash down Work is progressing on the kiddy slide "Gremlin" You can see Banzai & Bombora in the background Hang Ten the tallest open body flume is nearly complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loefet Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Another awesome update, the part of the structure that is complete looks awesome, can't wait until the whole thing is done!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traincrossin Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Wow, this is going up fast and looking great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linearinduction Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Hello Everyone, I've posted the Latest Construction Update to the Cowabunga Bay Construction Blog that includes Photos from Saturday, Sunday, and Today! Bonzai has been Completed from the Slide Entry to the Shut Down Lane and Bombora, Mondo, Hang Ten, Hang Five, and Gremlin are nearly complete as of today! Check Out Today's Cowabunga Bay Construction Blog Update by Clicking HERE! - Sid Cowabunga Bay Construction Blog cowabungabay@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggernel Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Do they test waterslides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montezooma Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 Here is a local news story on the park that aired this afternoon http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=6229355 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamatt Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 That was a great news story. Very informative and good publicity for your "water play structure" Edit-page 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillerman1 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Shane...awesome news piece! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazydaveh Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Nice story. Makes me want to head out west from Orlando to play in the water this summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycamps Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 That looks really neat. I have to admit that I thought a real person was jumping from great heights when I saw that surfboard guy on that dump bucket structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenA07 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Looks great, congratulations Shane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linearinduction Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 The story was pretty good, minus the incorrect statements, including the one that Cowabunga Bay isn't a Water Park, but just a Giant Play Structure, and the 2,000 Gallon Bucket! There really is nothing like Utah Media, Thank Gods! - Sid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferfish Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I would like to congratulate you on a job well done. You have done something that I can only dream, of doing, for now anyways. If you were to consider putting one in TN, I would definitely go visit. If ever I end up going to Utah, you can be guaranteed to see me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost007jas Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 This is all really exciting, congratulations man! I love the concept of this! I'm not big on water parks (walking around barefoot sucks!) but this seems to make that problem practically obsolete. I'd love to get out there at some point:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildStangAlex Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I am going to have to agree with everybody else. This looks incredible. It is so awesome that you were able to take something you like and share it with people over 2,000 miles away. Water play structures are rapidly gaining popularity, and like with your project, can now be considered as a stand alone park. Congratulations man, and I can't wait to see this place under operation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Yes I hear you on this. It is a bit confusing and we are trying to work out a simpler way to explain this. I dunno if you'd want to go down the path of the solution being too technical, but maybe you could buy a bunch of cheap LCD monitors/TVs, put one at each ticket window, and just have in big text on the screen something like: Buy your 4 hour wristband now! You can enter the play structure at: XX:XX And stay until: XX:XX And throughout the day the screen would just refresh depending on the time period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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