map2 Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Those teacup things at Islands of Adventure. The longest line I've seen for the ride is 15mins. I'm not sure if they were trying to compete with the Teacups at Disney World, but they are not that popular. Also, the location of the ride does not help. They put the ride next to one of the biggest attractions in Universal Orlando, which takes away some of the visitors they would've had.
Sticky Nicky Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 I didn't see the point of Cedar Point adding Wicked Twister...in fact, I still don't see the point. They made it taller and twists on both ends to compete with Superman: The Escape at the then SF:WOA. Otherwise it would have just been the standered model. The reason behind adding it: SFMM. They built three new coasters in 2001 bringing thier count to 15, same as CP.
speedracer Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 ^Agreed, It was pretty pointless, It was only built in order to hold onto the most coasters in a park world record. It seems like a pretty weird choice if that were the purpose, I mean they could not have picked a more expensive manufacturer, and they seemed to go to the expense and effort of making it capable of running 3 trains they dont use (coaster trains are expensive), and being a big layout, yet at the same time they obviously cut costs in other areas (leaving the car park intact, a cheaply done station and queue etc) I also recall hearing a main reason why SFMM went with Scream is because of the serious reliability, capacity and guest complaint issues they were having with their most recent additions, X and DV. A reliable crowd pleasing people eater like a large B&M is exactly what they needed to counter-address the much hyped PR nightmare X and DV ended up being for the park. I also agree Boom Bay at the land-locked coaster starved CGA was a poor consolation prize for removing 2 major coasters. The Bay Area has more than enough water parks already, Boom Bay brought nothing unique to the area that hadn't been done already on a much better and bigger scale. But I can see Paramounts logic behind it. The meager additions to it year after year were inexpensive additions for them (it still only offers 1/3 of a real waterpark), and with it only capable of operating for only a few hours a day, for only a few months of the season, great cost cutting addtion to hype with little operational cost involved. Thank goodness the dark days of penny-pinching negligent Paramount are now behind us!
RollerC Posted October 28, 2007 Posted October 28, 2007 ^I'm assuming you mean cornabll express? How is that ride pointless? I believe he was talking about how CF added Cornhole, a crappy carnival game, to Geauga Lake. Son of Beast gets my vote for dumbest addition. Wooden coaster engineers have known for years the folly of building overly large woodies. And Kings Island goes and builds the mother of all kludges. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. They could have used that same money to build a B&M hyper. This would have been infinitely more popular, would have given the park a true marquee coaster, and would not have mangled a train full of riders. And with 3 trains they would have a serious capacity machine, which is something the park needs. Waiting an hour to ride a rough, obsolete coaster like Vortex is not cool. Cornhole was supposed to be the answer to all of Geauga Lakes attendence.
Angry_Gumball Posted October 28, 2007 Posted October 28, 2007 Another kid's area at SFDK. I mean, the park's not all super huge so having even 1 kids area should be sufficient. There's other family rides around the park for them to ride on. Why would a park need 3 kiddie areas anyway?
Airtime&Gravity Posted October 28, 2007 Posted October 28, 2007 Even though it was incredibly popular, Wiggle's World was probably a bad decision for Great America. The park already had two kiddie areas, and they could have just redone Looney Tunes National Park since that area is dead. The whole Orleans Place/Mardi Gras re-theme was another poor decision as they could have done a really nice job to re-theme it, but it came off really cheap looking. Hopefully the addition of the Dark Knight will mean the park will focus on that area of the park more. If Orleans Place looks like Southwest Territory in terms of theming, then it would be a huge improvement. Others: Disaster Transport Top Thrill Dragster Any Togo coaster(well in the U.S.) Thunderhawk-MA can become a nice park, but CF won't invest in it The whole Geauga Lake 2004-present Son of Beast(what has history taught us Paramount?) The Parthenon at Mt. Olympus X-cool concept, but poorly executed Deja vu-same Disney's California Adventure Hong Kong Disneyland-they built half a Disney park, and they wonder why attendance is only at 6 million
asr Posted October 28, 2007 Posted October 28, 2007 6 Million IS NOT LOW. Almost any other park would KILL for those kind of visitor numbers. And it's not like the DCA situation, there is no other park to pull guests in... Except Ocean Park, but I doubt that is really much of a major tourist attraction.
Airtime&Gravity Posted October 28, 2007 Posted October 28, 2007 ^I know 6 million is a lot for a park, but Disney is upset that it isn't pulling in numbers twice as high.
CdnbMatt Posted October 28, 2007 Posted October 28, 2007 I didn't see the point of Cedar Point adding Wicked Twister...in fact, I still don't see the point. In all honesty I absolutely love Wicked Twister. It's probably my forth favorite ride in the park (MF, TTD, Maverick 1 - 3). For pure fun factor it's one of the best. As for my vote I have to give it to Stitch at Magic Kingdom.....it's even worse that they removed one the most original and innovative attractions to put this in!
gldude Posted October 28, 2007 Posted October 28, 2007 Excalibur at SFStL, it looks like a cool ride, but its seems a little random.
krouvi Posted October 28, 2007 Posted October 28, 2007 My local park "LunaPark" in Tel Aviv (Israel) just added an Iceskating rink. At first I thougt it was stupid but from marketing point of view it is clever as they charge more money for it and the rink is working all days even when the park is closed so its a good wat to make some extra money during weekdays.
Sticky Nicky Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Any Frog Hopper with a 54" max. I love these rides. I can ride the one at Camp Snoopy/The Park at MOA/ Nick Universe but I can't ride one at Valleyfair? Where is the logic in that. They are fun rides but if you are to tall, they are a pointless attraction. COUGHcedarfairCOUGH
dr.gumbo Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 They are fun rides but if you are to tall, they are a pointless attraction. Not for kids! Others:Disaster Transport Top Thrill Dragster Any Togo coaster(well in the U.S.) Thunderhawk-MA can become a nice park, but CF won't invest in it The whole Geauga Lake 2004-present Son of Beast(what has history taught us Paramount?) The Parthenon at Mt. Olympus X-cool concept, but poorly executed Deja vu-same Disney's California Adventure Hong Kong Disneyland-they built half a Disney park, and they wonder why attendance is only at 6 million I'm not trying to be rude but I don't think any of them where pointless (exept Deja Vu, despite how good it supposed to be), Disaster transport offered somethink different to the rest of the park. Top Thrill dragster was a record breaker, attarcting guests. Thunderhawk, the same reason as disaster transport. Geauga lake was quite pointless toward the end of it life but not for the people who admired the place. Son of beast, same reason as Top Thrill Dragster. The Parthenon acted as an indoor backup, X as something never done before. Disney's CA was intended to boost visitors despite failing and Hong Kong Disneyland offered a Disney park for southern Asia. In other words, they spat out what the park was looking for in the end, money! IMO I think Darknight at SFGAm was pointless since they already have something to toss in a shed.
rgb60 Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 I was never keen on Hershey replacing the Conestoga wagon ride with the 3D virtual theatre. Granted, the ride may have been a P.I.T.A. for maintenance, but there were better choices for replacement. The theatre never had more than a handful of people on it anytime I passed it. I guess few people wanted to do foolish things in full view of people walking past on the midway. Luckily, they're supposed to be replacing it with the new Tornado ride.
freestylenut Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Those teacup things at Islands of Adventure. The longest line I've seen for the ride is 15mins. I'm not sure if they were trying to compete with the Teacups at Disney World, but they are not that popular. Also, the location of the ride does not help. They put the ride next to one of the biggest attractions in Universal Orlando, which takes away some of the visitors they would've had. Are you referring to Storm Force Accelarator? If so, I agree. When it was added, I was like "WTF?" I honestly didn't notice it until MUCH later on since its kind of in a corner between the Fantastic 4 restuarant & Hulk coaster.
Medusa1861 Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 The entire list of "New For 08" at Six Flags Parks. Sfgadv = indoor mouse because you know.. half of the New Jersey parks and major competitors (Dorney and Hershey) don't already have one. Oh and Great dventure already has that "In the dark" coaster SFGam = Don't they already have a mouse.. now they have one that doesn't spin SFNE = Same thing... It's sad when the signs advertising dark knight uses track from Pandemonium SFOG = kids area that wasn't popular at GAdv.... SFStL = It's a decent option but.. Name? SFFT - just..why... I don't know what confuses me more.. the name.. or the ride.
asr Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Medusa, Pandemonium is NOT a mouse. Gerstlaurer and Maurer Sohne spinners may have small mouse like sections, but other than that and the car system they are completly different.
superdad1029 Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 I think THomas town was a waste for sfdk. All of the hype and when it was built it was a very small track in a circle, at least the old train served a purpose. Also they added just a couple little rides which are identical to rides already running in looney toon village a few hundred yards away. My 4 year old who loves watching Thomas was not even interested by it.
bigstevet07 Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 The Underground at Adventureland was a waste. Its part dark ride, part wannabee coaster, and overall crappy and boring.
Cookie Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 My list: The Dark Nigth-Three coaster at three different parks,but still just an pointless clone of an regular wild mouse.Why couldn`t they do it more like Technic Coaster at Legoland California or Scooby Doo Coaster in Warner Bros Movie World Australia? Goliath (SFFT)-Wow,can they do something more stupid?Move it instead of trying to repair the hole SFNO so New Orleans can have an major park again,moving it to SFFT when SWSA and SFOT has the exactly same coasters and theme it after something that`s used for three of Six Flags biggest coasters.Totally stupid when they got Superman! THBS (Various Parks)-Poor Six Flags,always have to make clones and place them everywhere in the U.S,why can`t they just have something original?And why are they putting an THBS in SFOT when SFFT not far away already has one?This is the same situation as the Batman/Goliath situation! TO BE CONTUNIED...
Golfie Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 The Dark Knight coaster for SFGAm next year. WTF?!?? Unless the theming is drop dead amazing, this statement remains true for eternity.
BarryH Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Those teacup things at Islands of Adventure. The longest line I've seen for the ride is 15mins. I'm not sure if they were trying to compete with the Teacups at Disney World, but they are not that popular. Also, the location of the ride does not help. They put the ride next to one of the biggest attractions in Universal Orlando, which takes away some of the visitors they would've had. I've seen it have a 25 minute wait during summer. I was quite surprised the Sneetches ride at IOA finally opened after so many years. I thought it would never open.
sfmmrules! Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Boomerang Bay at GA, Disney's Animal Kingdom Park. It doesn't seem to fit the Disney style. I would get rid of Animal Kingdom & place Expedition Everest in Epcot's Switzerland area. Test Track should be upgraded so your at least going 80-100 mph for the whole time too as soon as you launch. Also at California Adventure get rid of Mailboomer & get Grizzly River Run riders soaked! (I didn't get wet at all!) For Toy Story Mania if I were Disney I would have designed the Toy Story Mania ride to be like Spiderman at Universal.
Wes Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 place Expedition Everest in Epcot's Switzerland area Mount Everest isn't in Switzerland, and Epcot doesn't have a Switzerland area.
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