UrbanLegend Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 At the risk of being the guy who missed the discussion earlier in the thread, have we ascertained why the brake run is so tall and long? They probably could have fit in a quick shallow dip sort of like on Nitro. But I'm also not an engineer at all.
coasterfreak101 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 ^The flat part of the drop serves as the mid-course brake run that allows the B&M hypers to run three trains safely. That allows a train to crest the lift hill so long as a train has moved on to the sloped section of the brake run - meaning that a train should be able to be dispatched safely as soon as the one before it crests the lift hill. It keeps operations running smoothly, while also keeping the price from getting any bigger than the $28 million it's already costing them!
Cyber.Fiber Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Wonderland has done a great job with this ride so far and I cant wait to see what they do with the plaza in the next couple of months!
UrbanLegend Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 ^^ Huh, I didn't realize that it was the MCBR and brakes combined into one. I guess it's more like an ECBR '
kunpc1 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 The entry plaza is going to look great. They're really going all out to fit this coaster in to the Med theme.
chargersmichael Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 ^ Does anyone know what they're doing to make the surrounding area into a Medieval Theme?
kunpc1 Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Yes, they're starting by removing the Cyber Central tech theming for the arcade and redoing the building facade. They're also matching the station to the area as well. There will be another large addition or two to the area that will really make it stand out.
Wheelchaircoaster Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 When do you think that they will begin the testing? Not rushing them to get this done, I'm curious though. How long does B&M usually take (precautions wise) other than the pull through?
CCG2 Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 When do you think that they will begin the testing? Not rushing them to get this done, I'm curious though. How long does B&M usually take (precautions wise) other than the pull through? Behemoth's testing phase began in March and ran all the way through up until a few days before Media Day in April of '08. Leviathan will probably be on the same schedule when it comes to testing, but they may start a bit earlier for Leviathan considering it is B&M's first Giga Coaster plus both them and CW will want to make sure its running smoothly for Media Day, Season Pass Preview Night and Opening Day.
kunpc1 Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 There is still quite a bit of electrical that needs to be run along Leviathan's course. They're currently working on the final track alignment. Once that's complete, they'll take the coaster "envelope" around the course to make sure all the clearances are adequate. Once all of these things are complete, they'll be able to start testing. Behemoth started around March 17 (if I remember correctly) so I'd expect Leviathan to start around early-mid March if all goes well (just a month away!). Hopefully the weather continues to hold up the way it has all winter. I'll definitely keep everyone here posted on any updates!
coasterlover420 Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 ^Yeah, thanks to all the trims, the wires have to go half way down the course. Knowing B&M, there won't be very many proxies to deal with, though, so that's always a good thing.
PCW_Nut Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 ^"All the trims"? Isn't there only 2? Never understood why people get so upset with trims. Even with trims on the return hills of Behemoth I've never once not gotten some sort of airtime going over each and every hill.
XYZ Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 ^"All the trims"? Isn't there only 2? Never understood why people get so upset with trims. Even with trims on the return hills of Behemoth I've never once not gotten some sort of airtime going over each and every hill. This might be the deadly "Intimidator" trims where it drastically slows the train down.
DJeXeL Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 In the summer heat the trims will heat up since they are magnetic and will have less effect on trimming the train. Regardless, I'm not sure any B&M could be trimmed as much as Intimidator @ CW.
kunpc1 Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 And remember, these are not fixed trims. The "open" and "close" and will only be used when necessary (just like the friction trims used on Behemoth). There are only 2 trims along the course. One on the up-side of the first camelback and one on the up-side of the second camelback hill.
Skycoastin Steve Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 In the summer heat the trims will heat up since they are magnetic and will have less effect on trimming the train. Regardless, I'm not sure any B&M could be trimmed as much as Intimidator @ CW. In fairness, I had several rides on Intimidator that were practically trimless (usually early in the day or with half empty trains), and those were some of the best rides I've had on any B&M hyper. The rides during Coaster Stock '10 in particular were INSANE. However, in the middle of a hot day with a full train, those things grabbed pretty hard.
bottom_feeder_13 Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 ^ I agree with this totally, I've ridden Intimidator over 150 times and it seems that maybe one out of every 3-5 is just amazing with some great airtime with the best ones being as soon as the park opens in October and sometimes September if it's cold enough.
coasterbill Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Every giga coaster ever built (with the exception of Millennium Force which people find other reasons to complain about) has trims. Most Hypercoasters do too. I don't see why people have to act surprised and disappointed when these coasters get trims. I have never ridden a B&M or Intamin hyper coaster where the trims detracted from the ride and just because it has trims, doesn't mean they'll be all that powerful.
larrygator Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Every giga coaster ever built (with the exception of Millennium Force which people find other reasons to complain about) has trims. Most Hypercoasters do too. I don't see why people have to act surprised and disappointed when these coasters get trims. I have never ridden a B&M or Intamin hyper coaster where the trims detracted from the ride and just because it has trims, doesn't mean they'll be all that powerful. HERESY!!!!! Stop trying to use facts, all the wannabe engineers know what's best.
Meteornotes Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 ^Remember, you can just look at pictures or a drawing and completely figure out how forceful a coaster is going to be... dt
DJeXeL Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 In fairness, I had several rides on Intimidator that were practically trimless (usually early in the day or with half empty trains), and those were some of the best rides I've had on any B&M hyper. The rides during Coaster Stock '10 in particular were INSANE. However, in the middle of a hot day with a full train, those things grabbed pretty hard. I agree and I have no doubt that Intimidator can be a great coaster however the 3 rides I had, the trains slammed into the trims pretty hard.
coasterswim Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Every giga coaster ever built (with the exception of Millennium Force which people find other reasons to complain about) has trims. Leviathan is only the 4th traditional Giga coaster in the world to be created. Of the other three (one of which you already excluded), only one of them actually has trims: Intimidator 305.
braztaz Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 ^Well, Steel Dragon has a mid-course break run, which is basically the same thing, if not worse...
Dom497 Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Did a bit of research and it appears that Leviathan is not a giga coaster...its a hyper....according to what B&M has called it.
sammmmmy Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 The way you just said that made it seem like it wasn't actually 300 feet. B&M can call it whatever they want, that doesn't change that it's 300 feet tall.
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