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Please let them build a GCI there.

That's what i'm hoping for, a nice lakeside twister. Kind of disappointed that the ice show is going away though because it was actually really fun. There were also rumors that challenge park rides were being moved into the park so this could be opening up expansion space for them.

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I know a ton about this part of the park because I lived in Cedars. There was a lot of talk about Cedars being removed during the 2015 or 2016 season. Cedars is over 100 years old, falling apart, has no AC, un-popular, and completely un-maintained. The lack of renovation (or really even general upkeep) tells me that the park plans to do away with it soon. Really, the housing feels border-line condemnable.

 

Spectulating on an expansion of Commons is kind of redundant since it was just expanded this season (I believe the 1600s are all new). There is plenty of space over there for more buildings and I'm sure if Cedars bites the dust, we will see them expand it even further. However, this is problematic. Commons after dark is scary and borders onto unsafe. I believe in a single incident around 30 or so (I didn't look it up, and my memory is a little fuzy), were arrested and 16 were convicted for aggrivated rioting. Several sandusky police cars were always on site and cedar point officals were always by the gate. I knew a few employees who would actually avoid leaving their room after certain times. The amount of parties and loud music makes a typical college campus look like a daycare center. I don't know how quickly Cedar Point is looking to up their liability by further crowding and populating this area. Not to mention, the bus system from commons to the park is already overloaded and causes employees to be late (which at Cedar Point could easily cost you your job).

 

Cedars sits on some nice real estate by the marina (after all, it WAS a hotel), so I'm sure the park is itching to get at it. However, unlike axing the theater, removing Cedars is a pandora's box of issues that I don't think Cedar Point wants to open right now. I'm sure we wil see the antiuqe cars removed along with the theater towards the end of next season.

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Spectulating on an expansion of Commons is kind of redundant since it was just expanded this season (I believe the 1600s are all new). There is plenty of space over there for more buildings and I'm sure if Cedars bites the dust, we will see them expand it even further. However, this is problematic. Commons after dark is scary and borders onto unsafe. I believe in a single incident around 30 or so (I didn't look it up, and my memory is a little fuzy), were arrested and 16 were convicted for aggrivated rioting. Several sandusky police cars were always on site and cedar point officals were always by the gate. I knew a few employees who would actually avoid leaving their room after certain times. The amount of parties and loud music makes a typical college campus look like a daycare center. I don't know how quickly Cedar Point is looking to up their liability by further crowding and populating this area. Not to mention, the bus system from commons to the park is already overloaded and causes employees to be late (which at Cedar Point could easily cost you your job).

 

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^ Seconded. Honestly, even though Cedars is pretty nasty, not having to deal with the Commons dorms was a relief. You can't beat a five minute walk to work, and you hardly spend any time in your room anyway if you work at the park. Commons was genuinely scary after dark, so I usually made my friends hang out on point instead of venturing down there.

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I did get inside the theater for one last show at Halloweekends this year which was kind of neat as I had not been in there since I was a kid and it was the Imax.

 

But yeah, the theater seemed dated and I am sure that whatever replaces it will be much nicer.

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Wow, that sure came out of left field but it seemed like only a matter of time before IMAX/Good Time Theater would disappear. However I had thought the old Oceana Stadium would have been long gone by now.

 

BTW, how much longer until Luminosity runs out of gas? It's not that I don't like it, it certainly brings new nightlife to the park but the location sucks and can be a bottleneck just like during the old crappy laser show days. So much more potential for that entire midway now that GTT is leaving.

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I did get inside the theater for one last show at Halloweekends this year which was kind of neat as I had not been in there since I was a kid and it was the Imax.

 

But yeah, the theater seemed dated and I am sure that whatever replaces it will be much nicer.

At least it's an actual theater instead of a converted picnic pavilion with terrible acoustics like the Jack Aldrich Theater.

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Although removing the car ride is a possibility....mould we also see the first 600ft coaster being here as a polar coaster? We lost the space spiral for gatekeeper and only have the Ferris wheel right now....

 

Could be cool!

 

Windseeker would like a word with you.

 

I wonder if this announcement is because of a deal struck at IAAPA. Perhaps something was on the table for a while and the park signed the dotted line in Orlando.

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Although removing the car ride is a possibility....mould we also see the first 600ft coaster being here as a polar coaster? We lost the space spiral for gatekeeper and only have the Ferris wheel right now....

 

Could be cool!

 

Windseeker would like a word with you.

Windseeker is not an observation ride in any way you look at it. It just has a nice view.
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Although removing the car ride is a possibility....mould we also see the first 600ft coaster being here as a polar coaster? We lost the space spiral for gatekeeper and only have the Ferris wheel right now....

 

Could be cool!

 

Windseeker would like a word with you.

 

I wonder if this announcement is because of a deal struck at IAAPA. Perhaps something was on the table for a while and the park signed the dotted line in Orlando.

 

 

I disagree, although that has AMAZING views (I rode the one in CW and can only imagine it at CP). A standard "mom with the little kids) wouldn't/couldn't go on Windseeker! This would be the same argument for Power Tower...

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^ Seconded. Honestly, even though Cedars is pretty nasty, not having to deal with the Commons dorms was a relief. You can't beat a five minute walk to work, and you hardly spend any time in your room anyway if you work at the park. Commons was genuinely scary after dark, so I usually made my friends hang out on point instead of venturing down there.

 

If Cedar Point wanted to easily enhance the guest experience through better service provided by Team Members, providing housing that is safe, clean, and comfortable would help. I could never be employed in this company in a position that has any influence or oversight into housing and walk through Commons or Cedars seeing the conditions those employees live in for the entire summer. There is no supervision or rules enforced past the entrance gate. Once you are in the complex, anything is possible. Besides the unsanitary restrooms, crumbling walls/ceilings, new pungent smells each day, and back puncturing mattresses, employees are forced to live between paper thin walls that can barely muffle the loud music into odd hours of the night, drunks running the hallways, or even tune out normal conversation in the hallway. Quite honestly, Commons is only a few bars away from being a prison. Of course, experiencing this requires you to make it to your room safely as there is very little lighting outside of the buildings which provides a nice environment for fighting or other related behaviors.

 

I have seen some very dated college dorms from the 1920s, but they are livable because they are reasonably maintained and have rules enforced on a 24 hour basis. Cedar Point could take a few tips.

 

Just throwing in my two cents. I couldn't let this subject pass without inserting my opinion.

 

Edit: this is based from 2013 and 2014 experience.

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Cedar Fair has done some major improvements to the Commons dorms and I've heard there are a lot more changes coming in the next few years.

 

Here's the album for the new building that was built this year and the updated rec room. The hallways are no longer dark (seemed like the building I stayed in when I worked there for Halloweekends 2012 were pretty dark,) the new bathrooms in the building actually look very nice (no longer white tile and concrete blocks,) and a much larger store for the associates.

 

I don't expect anything major to happen for 2015 due to the Breakers renovation, but I wouldn't doubt there will be some more additions in the Commons area in the next couple years. Do have to say, adding at least a couple more buses (or at the minimum another line) and speeding up the dispatch time would help. Ouimet has been taking feedback from talking to a few of the associates and he's trying to fix a lot of the issues that Kinzel basically ignored.

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I'm back with yet another video. This one focuses on Magnum since I unintentionally took quite a lot of Magnum footage. Let me know what you think.

 

[youtu_be]http://youtu.be/XPHXo-prtAA[/youtu_be]

 

Cool video! Magnum's really underrated in my opinion. It's roughness has never bothered me, It looks beautiful along the beach and some probably the most intense airtime of any coaster on those last few hills.

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