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Am I the only one that thought the family in the commercial was cheesy as all hell? I found that almost painful to watch and I found their last name to be quite telling. Breakers? meh especially for $174.99 a night without park tickets, If I stay at a hotel in sandusky its the Maples. Call me cheap but $200 to just sleep is insane, I'll sleep in my car and take a shower at soak city for that kind of cash. I'm happy to see some much needed new flats going in especially the flying skooters!

 

I will go so far as to say moving and retheming the frog hopper is all well and good as is the removal of the pretty sub par arcade but the renaming of Jr Gemini is tantamount to blasphemy. Also I saw no mention of the kiddie bumper boats, are they being relocated or just removed as well?

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^I'm so glad someone else has said it!

 

That was a TERRIBLE video. That family made me want to kill myself. I'm assuming those children will also now be constantly bullied at school because of it.

 

Also, I don't see how this is so great for families!?!? First off, we haven't seen any height restrictions. Secondly they're pulling out some of the old kiddie rides to do this. Anyone who followed our Cedar Point report with a 45" tall child knows what I'm talking about and this small 2014 addition won't help.

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The new rides really help fill-in a weakness at Cedar Point. Camp Snoopy looks to really improve with the Frog Hopper and Jr Gemini going to that section of the park. Based on experiencing Surf Dog at King's Island, I probably can only ride Pipe Scream once before I start to feel a little queasy. I am unfortunately the same way with Max Air and to a much lesser extent on Sky Hawk. I am really excited about finally getting some flying scooters to the Park, especially if they are snapable!

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^I'm so glad someone else has said it!

 

That was a TERRIBLE video. That family made me want to kill myself. I'm assuming those children will also now be constantly bullied at school because of it.

 

 

Agreed--that video was way too cheesy. Comments for that video are disabled on You Tube. Go figure.

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I personally do not think the video was bad. It did what it was intended to do, and the family acted just as they did in their audition video. I have definitely seen way cheesier videos, ex. Fun Spot "ITS HUGEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!" Overall the refresh looks great and will be a great addition to the Point! Woohoo, No more Blacktop!!!

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^I'm so glad someone else has said it!

 

That was a TERRIBLE video. That family made me want to kill myself. I'm assuming those children will also now be constantly bullied at school because of it.

 

Also, I don't see how this is so great for families!?!? First off, we haven't seen any height restrictions. Secondly they're pulling out some of the old kiddie rides to do this. Anyone who followed our Cedar Point report with a 45" tall child knows what I'm talking about and this small 2014 addition won't help.

 

I really hope that was a joke, especially because I personally know the family. Sure the video might have been a bit cheesy, but I am pretty sure this is meant to appeal to the general public/family crowd and not the coaster enthusiast community.

 

So much bitching over this, atleast the park is getting new FAMILY rides. It is not like the park received a nice shiny coaster or something last year...

 

I look forward to this improvement, helps to spruce up an area of the park that really needs it!

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^I'm so glad someone else has said it!

 

That was a TERRIBLE video. That family made me want to kill myself. I'm assuming those children will also now be constantly bullied at school because of it.

 

Also, I don't see how this is so great for families!?!? First off, we haven't seen any height restrictions. Secondly they're pulling out some of the old kiddie rides to do this. Anyone who followed our Cedar Point report with a 45" tall child knows what I'm talking about and this small 2014 addition won't help.

 

I really hope that was a joke, especially because I personally know the family. Sure the video might have been a bit cheesy, but I am pretty sure this is meant to appeal to the general public/family crowd and not the coaster enthusiast community.

 

So much bitching over this, atleast the park is getting new FAMILY rides. It is not like the park received a nice shiny coaster or something last year...

 

I look forward to this improvement, helps to spruce up an area of the park that really needs it!

 

Elissa is merely expressing his suspicions concerning height requirements for these new "family" attractions--Cedar Point's track record for riders between the ages of six and twelve is not particularly good.

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^^If you 'personally know the family' then you should also be making fun of them!

 

That was not a 'bit cheesy' that was a full on Wisconsin cheese fest galore!

 

I know when/if I've had to do crap like that my friends and family also make fun of me, because it's terrible! Most of TV is not like that, yet some producers and production companies love making stuff like that.

 

I also think most of you saying how great this is don't actually have families. I stand by my previous post. They're not actually increasing the number of family rides and we haven't seen height requirements.

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My favorite part is when they started squawking and flapping their arms.

 

My first thought was the Arrested Development chicken dance and my second thought was that poor kid is going to be seeing chicken noises and flapping wings behind his back for a very long time.

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Also, I don't see how this is so great for families!?!? First off, we haven't seen any height restrictions. Secondly they're pulling out some of the old kiddie rides to do this. Anyone who followed our Cedar Point report with a 45" tall child knows what I'm talking about and this small 2014 addition won't help.

I also am hoping that the height restriction ends up being like the Tilt-A-Whirl "46 & under with responsible person" for these two rides otherwise this isn't really a win for families. Had Cedar Point released any of this information yet?

 

I can see the Flyers having that type of height restriction, but what about the Disk-O Coaster?

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So much bitching over this, atleast the park is getting new FAMILY rides. It is not like the park received a nice shiny coaster or something last year...

The irony of this is that you're actually doing more bitching than anyone else. No one at all is complaining about this not being a big shiny coaster. You have READ the responses, right? Maybe you should think before you post? Hmm??

 

I agree the improvements in that area are much needed. But the concern about this helping "families" is a real one. How many kids do you have between the heights of 36" - 45"

 

Personally, I'd love more than anything to see them actually take the idea of catering to families more serious. They could start by lowering the height restrictions of Mine Train, Iron Dragon, and Blue Streak to something that's a bit more "industry standard" for those rides which are found in other parks with much lower height restrictions.

 

But swapping out two family rides for two family rides (although better ones), neither of which anyone is sure of the height restrictions, doesn't actually help or increase options for families, it just makes those areas nicer looking.

 

--Robb

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I don't think the video was that bad, especially since they acted that way in their audition video, which many people voted for and won. Tony also did a great job producing it. Someone complained on another board and he flat out asked "Why?". He'd like to know because he produced it. Cheesy? Sure....but it happens. All in all, solid addition to the park in my opinion, and that's what I was more concerned with, not the video. No more black top according to the renderings. That's a Plus! Looking forward to seeing the new redone area and these two rides open. We might even see some new food options or something up there.

 

As for the comments on the video being disabled. They are disabled on all of their videos I believe. I think they're getting sick and tired of the fanboys who know nothing about amusement park operations (or other parks besides Cedar Point) saying "OMGZ WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD THE 500 FOOT, ULTRA LOOPING COASTER".Put them on a Togo!

 

Robb, I believe the height requirement for the Surf Dog at Kings Island is 48 inches to ride alone but 44 inches to ride with an adult. I hope there are some more smaller height requirement rides coming in the future to help fill the Paddlwheel & Space Spiral voids.

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The Flying Scooters will most likely be 44" alone, 36-44" with an adult. That info is coming from Lakeside Gliders at MA

 

Unfortunately, like Robb and Elissa referred to, you can't really go by what the industry standard is when you are dealing with Cedar Point. Most of their rides have higher minimum height requirements than the standard.

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That was a TERRIBLE video. That family made me want to kill myself. I'm assuming those children will also now be constantly bullied at school because of it..

 

My first thought when the video ended was "Well, that was a video". Horribly produced, cheesey, lame, and annoying as hell. I honestly lost interest in the announcement as soon as they opened their mouths.

 

I've seen used car lots have better videos than that.

 

The hotel make over looks and sounds to be all cosmetic rather than anything practical like I don't know, elevators maybe in the old section.

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Unfortunately, like Robb and Elissa referred to, you can't really go by what the industry standard is when you are dealing with Cedar Point. Most of their rides have higher minimum height requirements than the standard.

 

Except that MA is owned by Cedar Fair, and CF seems to be fairly consistent between parks.

 

The other flyers (Carowinds) are 48" alone, but anyone under is allowed to ride when accompanied by a responsible adult. So I would assume the flyers will allow shorter riders with an adult (as do most of the classic spinning rides, i.e. Calypso, Super Himalaya, Ocean Motion, Troika, Matterhorn, etc.).

 

Surf Dog at KI looks like they require 44" to ride at all. Better than 46" but still seems a bit high.

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Unfortunately, like Robb and Elissa referred to, you can't really go by what the industry standard is when you are dealing with Cedar Point. Most of their rides have higher minimum height requirements than the standard.

 

Except that MA is owned by Cedar Fair, and CF seems to be fairly consistent between parks.

 

The other flyers (Carowinds) are 48" alone, but anyone under is allowed to ride when accompanied by a responsible adult. So I would assume the flyers will allow shorter riders with an adult (as do most of the classic spinning rides, i.e. Calypso, Super Himalaya, Ocean Motion, Troika, Matterhorn, etc.).

 

Surf Dog at KI looks like they require 44" to ride at all. Better than 46" but still seems a bit high.

 

I guess they use the term "responsible adult" loosely.

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Was the video a bit cheesy? Sure, but I don't see that as a reason to poke fun at the family. Enthusiasts may not like the video but I'm sure mot of the general public eats them up. It's not like they were hired actors either. I'd rather have a real family promote the park than some fake one made from actors.

 

The new rides look nice, and hopefully the ride height requirements will be decent.

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[/but swapping out two family rides for two family rides (although better ones), neither of which anyone is sure of the height restrictions, doesn't actually help or increase options for families, it just makes those areas nicer looking.

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Those are kiddie rides that are being removed, not family rides. They have plenty of those types of kiddie rides in the other kids areas. The 2 new rides do look like a solid addition. Moving the entrance to Jr. Gemini to camp snoopy is a great move as well as moving Frog Hopper.

 

Jim

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Love the two family rides. Glad to see CP is adding Flying Scooters! I love these kind of rides! And I hope more and more Zamperla Disko rides are added in the USA. I personally think they're very overlooked.

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