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^Location, location, location!

 

^^Where is this entrance located?

I apologize in advance for the oversized photo, Im in a motel room on a crappy laptop and don't have any tools with which to resize - it's not that I didn't think about it! Mods if you want to/are able to resize for me awesome otherwise Ill change it when I get home.

 

There's a fast lane "gate" right to the left of this photo similar to other rides. I will definitely ask about this when I'm there today.

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Wicked Twister Fast Lane Entrance?

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And Magnum XL 200 solidifies it's ranking as the most overrated coaster in the history of ever by being ranked as the 9th best steel coaster in the world ahead of I305. I love Magnum, but are you kidding me? When will this end?

 

Agreed. I will never understand the Magnum following... In my opinion, it is a near terrible ride. Once a season is enough for me.

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Yeah. I'm in the club of really enjoying the ride, mostly for its raw simplicity. But at no point would I ever even begin to toy with the idea of arguing that it's better than all but 8 coasters on earth.

 

I do think it makes for one of the best season-enders though. Going on the final night of the year and riding it nonstop is pretty fun. It has a pretty awesome location as the end of the season the waterpark and hotels aren't open so it's just dark heading out towards the lake. And those no-trim rides are pretty ridiculous if you are like me and don't mind being thrown around a bit on coasters.

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^Location, location, location!

 

^^Where is this entrance located?

I apologize in advance for the oversized photo, Im in a motel room on a crappy laptop and don't have any tools with which to resize - it's not that I didn't think about it! Mods if you want to/are able to resize for me awesome otherwise Ill change it when I get home.

 

There's a fast lane "gate" right to the left of this photo similar to other rides. I will definitely ask about this when I'm there today.

This is very strange considering CP doesn't even list Wicked Twister on their website.

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There's a fast lane "gate" right to the left of this photo similar to other rides. I will definitely ask about this when I'm there today.

This is very strange considering CP doesn't even list Wicked Twister on their website.

Yup, this must be brand new. I just checked a picture of mine from August 9, and there was no fast lane sign in the spot where the picture on the last page shows it. Would have been mad if I missed it while I was there!

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Friday and Sunday (tonight). Easily.

Yep I can vouch for that, station waits all around all day today except 15-20 mins on Dragster and Maverick. Will definitely try to come back on this day next time if I can, it was perfect.

 

Lengthy TR follows. Highlighted the rides so you can just read what you want.

 

I was SO CLOSE to a rollback on Dragster today! I got on the train, they decided it wasn't working, then had us get off and get back in the que. After about 45 mins they tested the train I had been previously sitting in and it went through no problem so they loaded up the train behind it from platform 2. When they were getting ready to launch we on platform 1 boarded a train behind them and I sat there in the train and watched them stop and roll all the way back. Everyone who was on it looked absolutely thrilled with rolling back..I was so jealous..I missed a rollback by that much! Still, was pretty cool to even watch one like that. Our train that launched after them barely made it over the hill. Dragster was not liking the wind today, I was lucky to get three rides in as it was up and down most of the day. The operator told us "As you're cresting the top look down at Millennium Force 'cause they'll be 11 stories below you." So I did, and he was right..it was a weird sensation to be looking DOWN at Millennium's lift hill!

 

Due to the aforementioned light crowds today I was able to easily ride every non-junior coaster in the park, with multiple rides on the bigger ones. Corkscrew wasnt bad, I got a huge pop of air on the first drop, I still dont know how but even my feet flew up. Iron Dragon was pretty boring I thought, Gemini was a little better as was Mine Ride. I didn't have the best time on Magnum, but it was partially due to the fact that I rode it late in the day when I was already pretty tired and sore so that ejector air was kinda painful. Had I rode it earlier it probably would have been more enjoyable.

 

A lot of the pain was caused by Mean Streak..man some people had been saying it was less rough lately but that was easily the roughest most painful ride I've ever had on any coaster period. I was totally doing the Hades 360 face the whole time. It was throwing my back agaist the seat back repeatedly, I felt like it was trying to give me a hernia or something! I was in the back row, and I know I might have a different experience in another row or another train or at another time but I found that first ride so painful I didn't want to risk another one like that. I think that ride will probably be my last. Mean Streak Henry boggles my mind.

 

Raptor was my first ride of the day during early entry, and I think it's definitely better than the Batman clone at Magic Mountain. It's a better layout than Flight Deck at CGA, but I think Flight Deck edges it out in intensity. One weird thing in operations I noticed...in the morning they were only loading rows 1-4 they werent allowing anyone in the back rows. They said they don't use the back rows 5-8 when it's cloudy..really? Bizarre. So I had to come back later to get my back row ride in. When I came back several hours later (after seeing trains cycle with riders in the back row) I went up to the station only to find they had just started switching back to rows 1-4 only again. I told the op who was assigning rows I came from a long way away and had been waiting for a back row ride so he took mercy on me and allowed me to go sit by myself in the back row, thank you!

 

Blue Streak was pretty awesome too, it was exactly as people here have been describing lately..it's short and sweet with great pops of air and I like the classic feel.

 

Wicked Twister does indeed have fast lane now! It's not special or upcharge or anything, its just FL like any other ride. It joins the main que after the last switchbacks in the fenced in path. My home park is SF Discovery Kingdom in Vallejo so I've ridden V2 several times, and as expected I thought Wicked Twister was quite a bit better. On V2 the back row is the best as you go further up the straight tower and get some nice hang time, but on WT I found the front seat substantially more intense than the back and much more fun. There were a LOT of people being denied rides on 'Twister for the seat belt not buckling, and they were not large people. Those seat belts are just so short that a lot of people had trouble getting it to buckle. Its not your stomach/gut that gets in the way, its the thickness of your thighs. I know there must be a specific reason it's that length, I wish there was a way to lengthen it just an inch or two...it didnt seem to be missing by a lot.

 

I think Mantis might have a bad rap. I rode in the front row and didn't find it the least bit uncomfortable. It was the smoothest standup ride I've had (Vortex, Riddler's Revenge) but Riddler's has a better layout in my opinion. Some poor sap in the train in front of us lost his lunch so the crew had to get the hose out. First time I've actually seen that happen in person though I know it happens everywhere almost daily. Funny some of the GP around me started saying things like "Wow this ride must really be intense!" hehe..no I don't think that had anything to do with it.

 

GateKeeper was another pleasant surprise. I heard a lot of 'meh' reviews but I thought it was quite a good ride. I found the right side more enjoyable as I liked being turned under on the first drop. That first airtime hill was surprisingly nice too. I did stumble on one of the locking vests today they apparently hadn't gotten to..it was front row right inside on train 1 which they were not running on Saturday..it didn't tighten too much during the ride so it didn't bother me..I only noticed once we hit the brakes that I didn't have any slack like with my two previous rides.

 

Millennium Force pretty much lived up to the hype for me. I actually got in last night at 8pm so I snuck on to a night ride after hearing from several people that it was a good night ride, and it was. I think I liked it more in the day time though on my Sunday rides as I'm a sucker for a good view like you get of the lake on that lift. Got great air and relentless speed, it was exactly as expected, which was excellent.

 

Maverick was the highlight. It really is a fantastic coaster, the airtime is excellent, the first drop is unmatched in my experience, and only one turn after the MCBR was slightly uncomfortable. The second launch in the tunnel was a lot more forceful than I was expecting, a great surprise. I loved how they run the operations loading two trains simultaneously.

 

In comparison to Magic Mountain, I was at SFMM just last weekend so the differences were really quite glaring. SFMM is good at piling up thrill coasters, which they do well, but CP beats them in pretty much every other regard, especially capacity/efficiency. On every single ride the ops were clearly trying to dispatch trains as quickly as reasonably possible and I didn't witness any unnecessary stacking all day. The employees seemed much more friendly and willing to chat with guests, frankly they just seemed to enjoy their job more than SFMM employees. I liked the crew hoodies a lot of the ride ops were sporting, a very nice touch.

 

Ride Count (Including 1 ride on MF and GK last night):

Raptor - 3

Gatekeeper - 3

Maverick - 3

Dragster - 3

Millennium Force - 3

Wicked Twister - 2

Blue Streak - 1

Mine Ride - 1

Gemini - 1

Mean Streak - 1

Mantis - 1

Magnum - 1

Corkscrew - 1

Iron Dragon - 1

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^My guess for the reason why raptor was only loading certain rows was because of the wind gusts that kept coming out of nowhere and the lack of a line. If the ride is a walk on and they're not filling every seat, they'll close off the back rows to keep the weight toward the front of the train. This helps the train to go a bit faster on days like today where weather conditions can cause a roll back. Once it becomes busy enough to where all (or more) rows can be filled, more seats will be opened up.

 

I've worked on Gemini for two seasons now, and when it's cold and/or windy, this is the normal procedure, which includes putting weights in the trains every morning for tests. We'll close off the back rows until we have a big enough crowd to ensure we can fill more rows. I will almost always honor requests to sit in the back if someone really wants to. The only time we can't is if we have the exact minimum required amount of riders to fill the necessary amount of rows and in which case, they'll have to sit towards the front.

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The same can be said for Millie too.

 

Millennium Force is near the top in the Mitch Hawker poll too (unlike Magnum). I wouldn't go so far to say that it's nowhere near the top. Even on this board a ton of people have it listed as their #1 coaster... myself included and I've been on almost 200 coasters (which isn't a ton but it's not too shabby either).

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After this weekend, I think Gatekeeper may be making its way into my top spot at CP next to Raptor. I thought the ride was just "meh" at media day but it has gotten better as the season has went on... The second half of the ride is much quicker now that they seemed to have found what wheel combination works best, so the pacing has improved drastically.

 

This past weekend every single one of my rides had the loose vests... Amazing difference... They did not bother/hurt me that much before, but now the riding sensation is completely different for me. Riding front seat and leaning out into the restraint on the drop and inversions just add a whole new dynamic. You get legit airtime now since you are not bolted into the chair and just overall, the ride moved up a TON for me. Every single one of my 8 rides or so this weekend were fantastic... Two rides may have had some very minor vibration but the rest were just as good as opening weekend. I was extremely impressed.

 

That moment though in the front seat when the track flips and you fall into your vest and out of your chair... Incredible.

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^^ I agree. I like TTD the best, followed by Maverick and then Millenium Force. I understand why people don't rank TTD higher, I agree that it is really a "one trick pony", but I just can't get enough of that launch (or Kingda Ka's, which I think is even better!)

 

I'm glad to hear that GateKeeper seems to be running better. I didn't have a problem with the vests tightening on Wild Eagle or X Flight myself, but I wonder if they will be modified as well. Honestly I'm not expecting much out of GateKeeper other than getting the credit, but I'll find out soon, since I'll be going to CP Friday and Saturday.

 

I do think it's sort of funny that when GateKeeper's vests were uncomfortable and then modified everyone is fine with it- as they should be, but when Skyrush's lapbars were modified, Intamin was the worst manufacturer in the industry according to some (I only rode with Skyrush's original restraints and I didn't find them to be bad). I'm only pointing this out to show that ALL manufacturers sometimes have to make adjustments to new products. It's perfectly normal.

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