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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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I have a few tips for these, they may work, they may not... but it's worth a try. That's a fair assessment of Corkscrew. Riding in the first row of the back car is my best advice but you're not going to have a pain free ride on Corkscrew ever, it's not THAT bad though. Blue Streak (like all 3 bench PTC wood coasters not located in Elysburg, PA) runs much better in a non wheel seat. That ride can jackhammer quite a bit in a bad seat but this can easily be avoided by sitting in a middle row of any car. With Magnum, tighten the seatbelt as much as possible to avoid slamming into the bar. I used to hate the ride but that trick made me love it.

 

Looking back, I kinda regret not giving some of those coasters another chance, but when I was at the park and rode a coaster I didn't like I'd rather just ride something I know I like. As for Blue Streak that was such a painful experience that I wouldn't try it again. Maverick wasn't at all rough, but the restraints don't lock and keep pressing down. Im thin but tall which means the restraints go down very far after the first hill and my shoulder gets a lot of pressure. My brother hated Magnum more than anything else at the park and I didn't know about the seatbelt trick then. Corkscrew didn't exactly hurt but I was so close to wacking my head to the restraints (during all my time riding coasters I've never had a good headbang except one on Dragon Khan).

 

Also, it takes a good 5 hour drive from New York (which we only visit once every two years) for me and my family to get to Cedar Point and I feel I'd rather try some new parks in the area the next time.

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I always thought the B&Ms complimented the Intamins really well at Cedar Point. Are the B&M's (aside from Raptor of course) overly forceful? No. But they're incredibly fun rides. I absolutely love dive coasters and Valravn is no different, the feeling of power and speed if pretty awesome on that ride, as is the view and the 2 dives. I also really enjoy the barrel roll, it's forceless but has a cool floating sensation to it.

 

As far as Rougarou goes, I actually think it's the most forceful floorless out there aside from Dominator. Don't get me wrong, a "forceful" floorless coaster isn't saying much, but it's kind of snappy and fun. I think it's the weakest B&M in the park but it's a very good ride. As for Gatekeeper, I absolutely love the thing. The first drop is insane, the keyholes are fun and I really like the sensation of flying that it provides. Raptor is forceful and awesome but I'm not really talking about Raptor. We all know that already.

 

I never felt like the park had a "bipolar" coaster lineup, it just has a great variety of rides. Aside from Corkscrew there really isn't a dud in the bunch, and even Corkscrew has it's good points. It's not rough enough to be unbearable and while it's by no means a good ride, kids seem to really like it, it has some historical value and it looks spectacular. They have a great collections of Arrows to compliment the B&Ms and Intamins which round things out nicely (and having a collection Arrows that don't suck makes them kind of unique to be honest)... I have to admit I can't really find any issues with their coaster lineup. I felt like Valravn was just the icing on the cake and putting an RMC into the mix is flat out ridiculous. I can't wait.

 

I don't want to come across as a fanboy but I really can't objectively find any issues with this stacked coaster lineup. I guess maybe they could use another high intensity coaster to compliment Maverick, Dragster and Raptor but by the looks of things we won't have to wait very long.

 

I thought Maverick, Magnum, Rougarou, Valravn, Blue Streak and Corkscrew all hurt more or less

 

I have a few tips for these, they may work, they may not... but it's worth a try. That's a fair assessment of Corkscrew. Riding in the first row of the back car is my best advice but you're not going to have a pain free ride on Corkscrew ever, it's not THAT bad though. Blue Streak (like all 3 bench PTC wood coasters not located in Elysburg, PA) runs much better in a non wheel seat. That ride can jackhammer quite a bit in a bad seat but this can easily be avoided by sitting in a middle row of any car. With Magnum, tighten the seatbelt as much as possible to avoid slamming into the bar. I used to hate the ride but that trick made me love it.

 

As far as Maverick and Rougarou being rough... I've got nothing. I have no idea why people think Rougarou is rough and Maverick was always awesome and smooth and is even more awesome and smooth with the new vests. With both of them you should keep your head forward and lean into the turns but that goes for every coaster so I can't really help you there. Eat some Wheaties before going to the park maybe? IDFK.

Rougarou has never been that rough, but I vastly preferred Mantis. The new floorless trains still make it far from a bad ride, but it just doesn't have that floaty intensity that Mantis had. At least I got to ride Mantis in its last season before it was closed. Unlike MS...

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I feel kinda oddly about Valravn. Firstly, I thought it was pretty intense since I greyed out after the first drop atleast two of the three times I rode it. Secondly, I thought the restraints felt uncomfortable, even though I had absolutely no problem with GateKeeper's. I suspect both of those things has to do with the fact that I rode Valravn much later than the other rides and were probably sore and tired. I did however feel a lot of airtime during both of the drops.

 

As for ranking I'd put it right under Raptor, which means 6th best for me. The theming was kinda halfassed and barely-existent in a way that you felt like they only did it so they could call it a themed ride (talking about the AR stuff). If I'm completely honest I kinda hope CP doesn't start theme their rides because that's always what I found charming with Cedar Point; it has the atmosphere of a giant boardwalk park almost.

Eh, greyouts can definitely be a sign of a truly forceful ride, but everybody has a different G-force tolerance than others. For some (me), greyouts can happen somewhat easily on rides like Wild Eagle, Invertigo, and KI Vortex. For others, they almost never happen. If you don't grey out on i305, you're probably expected to live forever.

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I did a little science experiment at GADV yesterday. They had a blood drive at the park that I participated in, they were offering a free ticket and I haven't made it to GADV this year so I figured why not. Nitro has never given me issues with grey/blackouts and I wanted to see how blood donation would affect it, if at all. Everything was normal until I was re riding, then I was greying out going through the helix which never happens to me before. So moral of the story, if your susceptible to blackouts don't donate blood right before going to the park. Well I guess you didn't need me to tell you that it's pretty obvious, just wanted to share an interesting observation I had that that was relevant.

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I've been to Cedar Point probably around 5 times in my life, all spaced out from 1996 to 2013. And yet I don't think I've ever ridden one ride there more than twice in a single day. The park is just too big and there are too many things to do. At almost any other park, I'll ride everything once, then marathon the one or two I liked the most. Similarly, if I go back to a park, I have no problem just riding my favorites and not worrying about the rest. But with Cedar Point, even when I go back, I find myself willingly riding an easy 8-10+ different rides before I even think about rerides. And that's with me selecting the best, time-worthy rides. This is part of what makes Cedar Point so unique and amazing. No other park is like that.

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I guess that means I'll live forever, since I didn't grey-out on I-305. Actually, I have never greyed-out on any ride.

 

I never grey out on anything... except every single ride I took on I305, including a full-on black out once.

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I guess that means I'll live forever, since I didn't grey-out on I-305. Actually, I have never greyed-out on any ride.

 

I never grey out on anything... except every single ride I took on I305, including a full-on black out once.

 

Ah one of the many times you tried to be sensible and take a break from riding something when you felt like you were about to die and I told you to get your ass back in line. Why do you listen to me again? Take it from me... listening to me is a terrible idea.

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I guess that means I'll live forever, since I didn't grey-out on I-305. Actually, I have never greyed-out on any ride.

 

I never grey out on anything... except every single ride I took on I305, including a full-on black out once.

 

Ah one of the many times you tried to be sensible and take a break from riding something when you felt like you were about to die and I told you to get your A$$ back in line. Why do you listen to me again? Take it from me... listening to me is a terrible idea.

 

I blame it on the Haunted Bar.

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The park is just too big and there are too many things to do.

 

I seriously recommend going there 3 days in a row, even if you'll get really tired. My third day was so amazing, perfect weather but in the afternoon pretty much walk-in on everything except Maverick, Valravn, Raptor and Millenium Force (yes, walk-in on TTD). Also, since I lived at the nearby hotel I could ride Maverick before the park was open (also walk-in).

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We usually do 3 days there each year also over a long weekend. I highly recommend Labor Day weekend since they usually do pass holder ERT Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights.

 

How are crowds on Labor Day weekend? We're planning our first trip out to CP in 2017 and we still have no idea when we're going to go.

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We usually do 3 days there each year also over a long weekend. I highly recommend Labor Day weekend since they usually do pass holder ERT Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights.

 

How are crowds on Labor Day weekend? We're planning our first trip out to CP in 2017 and we still have no idea when we're going to go.

 

I've noticed that crowds don't really bother me as much as most people, but I think they're fine. Friday is usually pretty slow, Saturday and Sunday are busier but by then we usually go at a more relaxed pace anyway so we don't care. Rides like Maverick and Millennium Force can get around 60-90 minutes in the middle of the day but at that point we usually hit smaller rides or rides with shorter lines like Gemeni, Power Tower, Iron Dragon, Windseeker, Skyhawk, Maxair, Sky Ride and CP&LE Railroad until they die down. it's also a good time for some moonshine on Frontier Trail or lunch at Famous Dave's. Between ERT and Early Entry you get tons of rides in, and occasionally we jump in a long line in the middle of the day if we feel inclined. It's not so bad since you can take beer in line. That makes everything better.

 

Usually we do whatever we want for Early Entry, then hang out in the back of the park since it takes a few hours for crowds to pick up, then we focus on smaller rides and eventually make our way to the front late in the afternoon when lines are very manageable to non-existent for Raptor, Wicked Twister, Maxair, Blue Streak and Gatekeeper. Plus, if you can swing it, there's always Fastlane Plus.

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As 2017 will be the year i go to coaster club events (first time for everything lol) does anyone know what the prices are for Winter chillout and Coastermania?

 

Last year I believe the price for Winter Chillout was $50. I don't remember the Coastermania price.

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It's not so bad since you can take beer in line.

 

I'm sold.

 

Doesn't sound too bad, plus CP is pretty huge. I'm sure we'll be able to find things with shorter lines. Worst comes to worse, we'll just post up at their Flyers for an hour or two until we get bored of that. Thanks for the insight!

 

Just started a new job that is a pretty significant pay cut from my old job, so fastlane might be off the table. We have a few months though, so we'll see.

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^^If you're there for a few days you don't really need it. It's nice to have but not a necessity. At peak times, stick to Gemeni, Power Tower, Windseeker, CP&LE Railroad and Skyhawk if you don't want lines at all (and Snake River Falls if you're into that kind of thing), and for lines that usually max out around 30 minutes then stick to Iron Dragon (if the line is spilling out the entrance it's still a short wait), Magnum, Corkscrew, Mine Ride and Wicked Twister (unless it's the morning). The Museum is actually pretty cool too if you're sick of standing in lines, as is Famous Dave's in the Marina. In past years I would have suggested Challenge Park stuff and Mean Streak, but nevermind.

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This is where Bill and I finally disagree about something.

 

Sure you don't need fast lane. But after spending two days there Memorial Day 2015 (you've all seen my amazing report by now, yeah? ) I left feeling like we missed so much stuff. And we did - didn't do water park, skyride, flyers, the water rides in the dry park, Famous Daves, etc etc etc. And we had two whole days! 9am-10pm. Sure we had an amazing weekend, and re-rode the best stuff in the park, but being able to ride what we wanted usually without any wait made our trip relaxing, stress free, and I don't look back at that weekend feeling like we wasted any time waiting in line.

 

The way I see it - CP is basically the ultimate playground for enthusiasts. There's so many solid coasters and million things on top of that to see/do. If you can put a tiny little bit of money aside every week between now and your visit, you can be sure you'll get the most out of your weekend. I get that there's a way to strategically work any busy park and still get everything done without FL, but there is always a bit of stress involved in making sure you do things a certain way and that IMO sucks a little bit of the fun out of it. Not to mention that never goes completely as planned anyway. With FL+ you can go at your own pace and still get a ton of riding in.

 

I will never go to a park not named Great Adv, Moreys or Dorney without having some skip-the-line money set aside. And thats only because I have ridden everything at GreatAdv a million times and I can't imagine a universe where I'd need it at the other two.

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This is where Bill and I finally disagree about something.

 

Hey, there's a lot we disagree on... like Windseekers, Center of the Universe Beer and If it's a good idea to take that 37th consecutive ride on I305.

 

I left feeling like we missed so much stuff. And we did - didn't do water park, skyride, flyers, the water rides in the dry park, Famous Daves

 

Missing the Sky Ride is unforgivable, but aside from that you didn't miss much...

 

Famous Daves

 

I like it, but the world won't end if you miss it

 

water park

 

Sh*t

 

water rides in the dry park

 

Such sh*t

 

flyers

 

Complete f*cking sh*t

 

Feel better?

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