Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[Fire2box]

I do love Cedar Point ... but I do miss a descent wooden coaster !!! My last visit is about 3 years ago and that Meanstreak ... damned !!! Hopefully after the next steel coaster ....... What is your opinion my coasterfriends about only building steel after steel @ CP ???

 

bet they'll get a RMC coaster within 3 years.

[Philrad71]

^^

 

I have to admit that I have seen some very interesting posts since the date for the announcement was set and this thread kicked into high gear.

 

Here are my faves thusfar...

 

 

* Valravn is a complete hoax - it won't be a coaster, but a dark ride instead

 

* A 12 year old complaining about CP getting a dive coaster with an uninspired layout. Seriously? I would have absolutely pooped a brick if CP would have installed anything like the Valravn renderings when I was 12 years old!!! I literally crapped with glee & delight around the same age when they announced Iron Dragon and Thunder Freaking Canyon!

 

* CP has been building a lot of forceless coasters lately

 

* CP should get a GCI and then RMC Mean Streak because they don't currently have any decent wooden coasters (Blue Streak - cough)

 

* 50/50 love/hate for Maverick/Raptor with most people hating both

 

The new roller coaster won't be named Valravn. The parc has abandonned the use of that name because it is now associated with the Raptor incident...

Source: magicmountainlover

 

Thought I would add that one to the list as I am still trying to wrap my head around how the Raptor incident would be associated with the new coaster not being named Valravn.

 

So riddle me this...

 

IF!

 

And this is a mighty and stupidly big if...

 

If this were to actually be true (although I am fairly certain that it isn't) and CP is going to scrap a concept that probably took a year or more to design and come up with a new bird designed ride that wouldn't be associated with monsters, evil, death or anything that sounds scary or macabre...what would it be?

 

Robin's Roost? (nope, robins eat worms and that's cruel)

Big Snowy Owl? (nope, they eat rodents at night)

Duck Hunt? (nope, it would favor shooting of guns/animals & also...Dick Cheney - shudder)

Crow's Nest? (nope, crows eat carrion - AKA DEAD ANIMALS!!!)

 

Gosh, I'm stumped...what actually could they rename it where it wouldn't have an evil connotation & people wouldn't associate it with a meat head that died breaking the rules while trying to retrieve his cell phone underneath another roller coaster?

[ajfelice]

This. Also I'm really surprised none of you have mentioned, or maybe they don't do this anymore, that using a cell phone on a ride in Ohio is actually illegal - the last few times I've been to KI and CP, the ride ops mentioned it on the overhead on numerous rides and I watched the Gemini op one time stop the blue train about an eighth of the way up the lift hill to walk out on to the track and tell someone to put their phone away. I mean - if it is actually illegal in the state, there really should be repercussions akin to Rob's suggestions. I feel like doing anything else illegal would also get you kicked out of the park.

 

It's not directly illegal in the state of Ohio. What that saying from the ride hosts comes from is the rider safety act which in paraphrased terms says riders my obey all posted and verbal policies of the park. So technically since it is a rule that is posted and verbally communicated to guests, you could twist an argument to say cell phone use is illegal. However, please don't think the authorities are out looking for all of the violators of a park policy. The law is in place for liability reasons.

 

In the end, the ride hosts are being snarky when they say that.

[Brassinthegrass]

Do we know we're on raptor the incident happened? There are a ton of low spots on the ride...

[CW5X]

Gosh, I'm stumped...what actually could they rename it where it wouldn't have an evil connotation & people wouldn't associate it with a meat head that died breaking the rules while trying to retrieve his cell phone underneath another roller coaster?

 

"The vegetraian penguin who was climbing over a rock to find a mate but then fell off the rock twice and began flapping aimlessly about the ice and ending up right back where he started roller coaster"

 

It's not very catchy but you didn't specify how stupid the answer could be.

[ltdono02]

This. Also I'm really surprised none of you have mentioned, or maybe they don't do this anymore, that using a cell phone on a ride in Ohio is actually illegal - the last few times I've been to KI and CP, the ride ops mentioned it on the overhead on numerous rides and I watched the Gemini op one time stop the blue train about an eighth of the way up the lift hill to walk out on to the track and tell someone to put their phone away. I mean - if it is actually illegal in the state, there really should be repercussions akin to Rob's suggestions. I feel like doing anything else illegal would also get you kicked out of the park.

 

It's not directly illegal in the state of Ohio. What that saying from the ride hosts comes from is the rider safety act which in paraphrased terms says riders my obey all posted and verbal policies of the park. So technically since it is a rule that is posted and verbally communicated to guests, you could twist an argument to say cell phone use is illegal. However, please don't think the authorities are out looking for all of the violators of a park policy. The law is in place for liability reasons.

 

In the end, the ride hosts are being snarky when they say that.

 

Good to know - because I know I heard multiple ride ops say "It is illegal in the state of Ohio to use a phone/camera while the ride is in operation." My last visit to CP (which was a few years ago) and at KI, (more recently) I heard it on more rides than less, which is why that stuck with me. I was also interested in it because, it seemed awfully specific. Thanks for the clarification. Could be a useful piece of litigation regardless to delve a bit deeper into regarding the aforementioned issues.

[JonnyRCT3]

Do we know we're on raptor the incident happened? There are a ton of low spots on the ride...

 

Just before the final flat spin, based upon the images released.

[MagnumFreak25]

Really? I thought it was at the base of the cobra roll.

[JonnyRCT3]

Right here, to be exact.

[MagnumFreak25]

Oh, ok. That makes sense.

[B&MIntaminGCI]

I saw this on Facebook and I can't help but have chuckled

 

[DoinItForTheFame]

I saw this on Facebook and I can't help but have chuckled

 

 

 

I know it is a "tragic situation," but ... he did it to himself... I can't help but to ... ALMOST ... not care. I mean, I know that sounds heartless, but seriosuly. . . He knew what he was doing when he climbed the fence. Roller coasters are huge, fast moving, heavy pieces of machinery. I just can't find myself caring much when someone steps into the path of the coaster.

[Top Thrill Dragster]

I saw this on Facebook and I can't help but have chuckled

 

 

 

 

[maverick_cp]

I saw this on Facebook and I can't help but have chuckled

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you so much for posting this. this picture is gold.

[coasterbill]

[IdahoKat]

^^^^ clever.

 

It's sad James Young died, blah blah blah. He trespassed in a posted no entry area and ultimately lost his life on account of a poor decision. CP PR staff has done a great respectful job with regards this incident. Still, I find myself upset at the bad decision he made.

 

I do *NOT* know how reliable the source is or not ,but heard or read somewhere that the family is planning to sue. REALLY?!? I hope that's just a case of an unreliable source and rumor on that one. I also read somewhere that he was supposed to be a special education instructor, yet with his serious lack of judgement, he probably was not entirely capable of such a job. Ok, i'm ranting, and I've made plenty of mistakes in my life. Had he made an error outside of the park and rolled his vehicle as a rough example, it's not like we would have been hearing about it. It's just the location he was at I'm hearing it all over the news.

 

What I'm wondering - what part of the train hit him? Had a rider been physically injured by him, I'm guessing we would have heard about it? I would be concerned for the emotional toll this may have had on anyone in the train that struck him.

 

On an unrelated note, the next morning, coworkers asked me if I had heard about the incident. From there, I started to talk about how enjoy Raptor and most B&M rides.

[Locostitch]

Clearly the best solution is to make it an electric fence... Jk. In all honesty though if that family sues cedar point should sue back for wasting their time. It would be awesome as there would be two stupid cases.

[bluestreak]

I saw this on Facebook and I can't help but have chuckled

 

This has to be the funniest thing I've ever seen on here.

[timetrial3141592]

My immediate reaction to hearing the news:

 

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[Tmcdllr]

^^^^ clever.

 

It's sad James Young died, blah blah blah. He trespassed in a posted no entry area and ultimately lost his life on account of a poor decision. CP PR staff has done a great respectful job with regards this incident. Still, I find myself upset at the bad decision he made.

 

I do *NOT* know how reliable the source is or not ,but heard or read somewhere that the family is planning to sue. REALLY?!? I hope that's just a case of an unreliable source and rumor on that one. I also read somewhere that he was supposed to be a special education instructor, yet with his serious lack of judgement, he probably was not entirely capable of such a job. Ok, i'm ranting, and I've made plenty of mistakes in my life. Had he made an error outside of the park and rolled his vehicle as a rough example, it's not like we would have been hearing about it. It's just the location he was at I'm hearing it all over the news.

 

What I'm wondering - what part of the train hit him? Had a rider been physically injured by him, I'm guessing we would have heard about it? I would be concerned for the emotional toll this may have had on anyone in the train that struck him.

 

On an unrelated note, the next morning, coworkers asked me if I had heard about the incide

 

nt. From there, I started to talk about how enjoy Raptor and most B&M rides.

 

 

Really, you are surprised about that? Saw that coming a mile away.

 

And also suing on what grounds, that their idiot family member ignored posted warning signs and a fence to enter an obviously dangerous and restricted area?

 

Only in america.

[Dom497]

^And they'll still probably get a couple million.

[RandallDuell]

Wow. That picture really makes you laugh?

 

It's obviously dumb to assign any blame to anyone but the guy that hopped the fence, but sitting and guffawing about a man's death via a photoshop of his death?

 

Again, the inevitable lawsuit is awful and (should be) pointless. This is 100% on the guy. I don't know if he was drinking, or otherwise altered, but the bottom line is that the guy started the day going to a theme park and is now dead. Again 100% HIS fault, but damn someone's son/brother/husband/dad just died ... while I don't share the gusto many have for "just Darwin taking out the trash!!11!!!!", either, somehow that photoshop just seems in bad taste to me.

 

Might just be me, though, so +1 and like away.

[GCI Wooden]

 

And also suing on what grounds, that their idiot family member ignored posted warning signs and a fence to enter an obviously dangerous and restricted area?

 

I don't see how they could make a case, either. I mean, the park isn't at fault here no matter how you spin it.

[RollerManic]

They'll probably try to spin off the old "there's not enough warning signs" BS.

[DoinItForTheFame]

 

And also suing on what grounds, that their idiot family member ignored posted warning signs and a fence to enter an obviously dangerous and restricted area?

 

I don't see how they could make a case, either. I mean, the park isn't at fault here no matter how you spin it.

 

I don't see how they could make a case either. The park did nothing wrong..