goatdan Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 They need to round out their offerings with flat rides and other attractions as well as fix up the crap they already have. The problem is, when you have Universal and Disney down the road, does even an awesome flat ride compete with Harry Potter or Carsland? Magic Mountain is in a location where they need something unique to market, and giant coasters is really all they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSum1_55 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I think people need to understand the difference between hating a ride experience and hating the investment. Full Throttle could be better than Xcelerator no doubt, but Knott's was not as large of a coaster park at the time Xcelerator was built. (The largest steel coaster at that time was Monte) I think it was perfectly acceptable for them to build a launch coaster that is a bit of a gimmick then. Present day-Magic Mountain, by comparison, is a very large park. For the past ten years, they have been wavering in and out of the record of the park with the most coasters. If, say, Worlds of Fun announced something like this, it should be a very exciting announcement. However, I would hate to imagine what would happen if Cedar Point announced this, regardless of if they have Dragster. (Which, considering the cost, May be an acceptable gimmick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double0Kevin Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 They need to round out their offerings with flat rides and other attractions as well as fix up the crap they already have. The problem is, when you have Universal and Disney down the road, does even an awesome flat ride compete with Harry Potter or Carsland? Magic Mountain is in a location where they need something unique to market, and giant coasters is really all they have. It competes by giving something to do to families and not just teenagers and adults. People that spend more money are always families but it's easy to alienate them by offering nothing for the young kids or less thrill inclined adults to do. Yes, for us coaster enthusiasts it's fantastic, but I find it funny that SFDK generates more revenue for Six Flags than SFMM does and it's about half the size with a lot less operating days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Monte Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 ^^ Well I don't think anyone necessarily likes the investment aspect of another quick fix coaster, but the fact is, it's coming whether we like it or not. It's certainly not Premier Rides fault, as they make very good launch coasters. So at this point I will judge Full - Throttle the same way I judge everything else. Either I like it or I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ728 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 West Coast Bash is only just over two months away? Is this true?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolercstrluvr Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 That's if there is one, I hope there is as its the event I always look forward to the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clinksalot Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Last year WCB was over Presidents Weekend in February. Haven't heard anything yet but if it does happen I'm sure it will be awesome as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disney4me2001 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Does anyone else severely miss Déjà Vu? YES! Sure, it may have been "gimmicky," but I miss it. SFNE went higher up on my "Parks I need to visit" list when I heard they were getting it. Of course, Bizarro was already a major reason why I wanted to go to SFNE, but having Deja Vu (I'm not comfortable calling it Goliath since I'm used to SFMM's Goliath!) there is icing on the cake. Hoping I can make it over there someday! I'm also hoping that the space Deja Vu occupied will be the site of a decent coaster in the future, but for now Full Throttle will have to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disney4me2001 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 West Coast Bash is only just over two months away? Is this true?! I'm also hoping that WCB is happening in 2013! WCB is the only TPR event I've been able to attend (I've been going since 2010), and each year has been awesome! Maybe we'll hear something soon? I'll be waiting patiently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillseeker4552 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 ^Don't hold you breath out front by X2, That's the park's picnic areas. Big money makers for parks when large groups visit like company outings and what not. SFMM is far from being tapped out on land, they just get creative on where to put stuff (see YOLOcoaster). But that place does NOT need new coasters. They need to round out their offerings with flat rides and other attractions as well as fix up the crap they already have. Some of those rides could use some serious love (not that I expect them to get it). Yah I thought something was there. I never really eat in their so I was just checking. You are right about the "touching up" before a new coaster. The park isn't HORRIBLE but it could use some clean up. I wish they would refurb some of their classics rather than having them in a horrible status. Something as simple as new Vekoma trains for Viper would make me happy. It really is a great coaster with the nice laterals I just think SFMM should refurb it a little bit. Not to mention "cough" Revolution "cough" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yeah, I don't think the Picnic area's are going anywhere. During the summer both are booked up pretty much every weekend and the one closest to HH is booked up pretty much daily due to picnic groups in the waterpark. SFMM has PLENTY of room for a new coaster if the park wants to get creative. They are only using about 1/2 of the available space that was available to them for YOLOcoaster. There is the Deja Vu/Slingshot spot, there is the ENTIRE back road of the park and of course there is a rather large parking lot available. There is also some room near Riddlers/Tidal Wave for a smallish coaster, the mostly un-used Batman Theater, some of the path for the Metro track and there is space in and around Gold Rusher. The park could easily add another 6-8 coasters without removing anything. In my mind, a bigger restriction to adding an additional attraction to sfmm would not necesserily be the land involved to build it on, but the funds needed to pay for the expenses associated with operating the coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontagnaMagica Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 If you don't like it, you could always just not post here. I could, but I like the meme anyway! I can only imagine the park executives that supposedly read this forum from time to time, regretting the terrible decision to use "YOLO". One less bronie on our forums wouldn't be a terrible thing, now would it? No thanks! Always glad to bother you to unreasonable extents with my avatar! I'm also hoping that WCB is happening in 2013! WCB is the only TPR event I've been able to attend (I've been going since 2010), and each year has been awesome! Maybe we'll hear something soon? I'll be waiting patiently... Me too! And hey, I know it's early, but maybe you and I could consider carpooling to WCB since we're both Phoenicians. Hope it happens, and I too will be waiting patiently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFChris Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 By the way, I just wanted to mention that I love the threads current sub-title: 'New carnival ride being set up' LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Can't beat the truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 West Coast Bash is only just over two months away? Is this true?! We have not set a date yet for an upcoming West Coast Bash. When we do, you guys will be the first to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 By the way, I just wanted to mention that I love the threads current sub-title: 'New carnival ride being set up' LOL!!! LMAO! I just noticed this. Funny sh*t!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Thanks...I just post the truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy* Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Seems like the carnival ride is actually getting more respect that Yolo coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalCoasters Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 While it may be the more "portable" version of the ride, they are still pouring concrete footers for it, so it's obviously going to be there for a little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingwright Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 West Coast Bash is only just over two months away? Is this true?! We have not set a date yet for an upcoming West Coast Bash. When we do, you guys will be the first to know! This year's West Coast Bash t-shirt should just say YOLO real big on the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domm Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Heading down to Valencia tomorrow for a full Saturday at the park- whats the over/under on crowds? Still run to X2 first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUSHIE Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Is Apocalypse being painted white or does it just look funny in those photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clinksalot Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It's faded. The portion that was closer to Deja Vu is a bit darker because it was partially obscured by the sun unlike the other parts. At least that's what it looks like to me. Domm, Saturday is Toys for Tots but I still don't think it will be that busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disney4me2001 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Me too! And hey, I know it's early, but maybe you and I could consider carpooling to WCB since we're both Phoenicians. Hope it happens, and I too will be waiting patiently! I might actually be up for this! I usually go to WCB with my family, but if they can't make it I'll let you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domm Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It's faded. The portion that was closer to Deja Vu is a bit darker because it was partially obscured by the sun unlike the other parts. At least that's what it looks like to me. Domm, Saturday is Toys for Tots but I still don't think it will be that busy. Thanks for the heads up, Clinks. I'm a 1-time a year kinda guy and hope to get everything in during the compressed hours schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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