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  1. To be fair, this used to happen but only because of a certain reason, which was that the two different versions HAD to be radically different, like when you had a company programming for the N64 and the GameBoy (Color, usually) at the same time. Having said that, in those situations the worse version almost always *followed* the initial development, you don't lead with garbage and then expect people to buy anything decent. ...and that is how you can tell you work in the game industry Someone at Atari must have said hey, let's slap the RCT name on this and it'll make tons, not realizing that the damage it does to a franchise like RCT will be irreversible. It's also like you said - the traditional PC market is all but dead. I honestly wouldn't be too disappointed with even a microtransaction game if there is a decent hook to play it. If it means a better RCT game, I'd embrace it. But... this is NOT a better RCT game.
  2. Cedar Fair is finally catching up to other companies in terms of extra revenue. Good for them! Yeah, and unlike Six Flags where I thought these TVs often went in at weird spots since there used to be theming there (the one in SFGAm's Batman queue is the worst - take out a bunch of theming to add a TV), Cedar Fair has little of that to worry about. And I mean that completely seriously and without animosity. I actually have quite a bit of money invested with Cedar Fair, and I am absolutely fine with the majority of their rides having no theming other than name. That's what they do, and they do it well
  3. Whoa, it really, really, really REALLY looks like Theme Park with a 2.5D perspective. Creepy.
  4. ^ You seem to have missed the entire part of my post where I explained about the demands of the fair board, and what that means for a park like Kentucky Kingdom. For the Koch's, running it as a water park meant that it's main attractions would be protected during fair time and that the carnies that the fair board allows to set up show right next door aren't taking money away from the park. I think that a lot of the information that people believe about why Six Flags failed with Kentucky Kingdom has to do with that very slanted video on Youtube going through what rides were added, removed, and whatever, and skips the stuff that went on that caused a lot of it to happen. Kentucky Kingdom is in an extremely unique situation. You really can't compare it to any other park without understanding why it is in that unique situation. All things being equal, while you can question how it ran things, I don't think that Six Flags was *that* incompetent with the park, nor do I think that the plan of the Kochs would have been. I do think that Ed Hart has the possibility to get more from it, but I think in big part he does only because Six Flags and the Kochs laid the groundwork for him by walking away from the Fair Board.
  5. Why should it have [only opened as a water park]? Let's put it this way, the Koch's plan to make Kentucky Kingdom into a water park only was a ridiculously reasonable idea that wouldn't have sat well with the fair board because that same fair board and their management style is why Six Flags pulled out of the park to begin with. It's extremely hard to operate a park when you build a new attraction and then have to have it open to use tickets for when fair time comes around. Want to ride the new Chang? Your call - pay $40 to visit the park and do it while you're there, or pay $4 when the fair is open and they let carnies set up their rides along the same midway where Kentucky Kingdom was running things. While I have faith that something can be made of Kentucky Kingdom, I also gained a lot of respect for the Koch's business sense when they didn't pick it up. As for AA, no one picked it up before because *running a park is not that easy of a business* and *there are very few people in the world with experience running a park successfully who leave that world and want to keep doing it.* It doesn't matter if there are 1 million or 10 million people within a 1 mile radius of the park or not if the people running it don't understand how to make a park successful. We've seen that recently with Hard Rock Park and it's insane goals that it had no chance of ever achieving. Just before that, we saw that with Geauga Lake, which I'm certain that if Cedar Fair thought they could make money on it, would still be open. Six Flags as a whole company went bankrupt. California Adventure was largely known to be a complete flop until recently. And everything I'm naming in this paragraph was done by people who had experience in the industry and still didn't get it right. As a regular business person, you're way better off buying a McDonalds or Subway and trying to make money that way. To run a park, you need to love the business and have certain business sense and understanding that doesn't come from other things. Knowing the Koch's background, they would not be getting into this business if they didn't have a way to make it work, and the fact that they are looking at Rampage (although safely saying it may be a number of years before they open it) means they get it. Opening up a roller coaster, even a really good one, doesn't guarantee success at all.
  6. Inversions can be made using completely traditional wood building techniques, it's just companies haven't been doing that. Here's one: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Flipflaprailway.jpg Opened over 115 years ago.
  7. This is the part that is totally mindblowing to me. This is essentially going to be an expensive up charge attraction for the parks, and I'm guessing one of the most successful ones ever. It is mind blowing to me the ways that USF is figuring out how to print massive amounts of money, and this seems like another great step forward for them. With the innovation that they are doing, I would not be surprised to see them as the main destination in Florida. That's crazy. I can't wait to hear details!
  8. SFGAm's Batman was built just slightly differently than all the other ones that came after it, and maybe when it was running backwards that intensity was amplified?
  9. I feel like it's kind of silly if they are really going to relocate it. To actually remove it when it is that integrated into the buildings just seems stupid. The ride itself looks totally boring, but the interaction it has with the buildings and the track make it something that I'd love to ride and see. Oh well.
  10. That was perfect. My one question is why was Cedar Fair brought in to potentially manage it in the 2000ish timeframe? Unless I'm mistaken (and for the record, I've never been there, I just remember every so often hearing about Rampage and getting confused because the park seemed to change names every other year), the park was always really small, far smaller than a park that Cedar Fair would usually have had control over. I was always VERY interested in Rampage, but the park itself always seemed more like it was an "Indiana Fun Spot" type park and less of an even "Michigan's Adventure". Is that accurate-ish, or is the water park really big? Fascinating stuff though, I'm really curious to see how this goes!
  11. Is there anyone that can give a crash course of what in the world was going on at this park? I spent about 15 minutes just now trying to get a sense of what in the world this was before they came in to buy it, and it seems like it went through a bunch of management changes over and over. The Rumbler was opened, closed, opened and closed. What was going on here to cause all this? How many of the "dry rides" were actually sold?
  12. All of this argument about the trim break is interesting, but could it conceivably be that Bull wasn't designed for extreme ejector air? Also, whatever this argument of the ride isn't delivering the experience that riders want, please explain to me then why the line for Raging Bull is always one of the longest if not the longest lines in the park, and the capacity that it delivers is nearly double what the other rides can deliver. Seems to me, however it was designed, it's doing a fine job 15 years later of still having guests line up to ride it. It is *hands down* the best investment that Great America has had since Batman based on an ROI standpoint purely from the guests willing to line up and ride it. I'm pretty sure that if you asked your average guest at Great America what the best ride is, Raging Bull would win - if nothing else, the capacity of the ride allows nearly everyone in the park to ride in a single day at least once. For me, it's not my favorite ride, but I'm more than happy to ride it the way that B&M designed it - with the trim brake on and in place.
  13. SDC has LONG been on my list of parks that I really want to visit, and I just recently heard about this cave... I also quite enjoy caves. Can someone explain more of what this is / how long it takes to do? There is like a 20% chance of me hitting the park this summer...
  14. Maybe now, but when it opened it was the tallest and fastest coaster, and it remained the fastest wooden coaster I believe until Son of Beast opened 20 years later, so while I think it never got the recognition that it deserved, it should have been a pretty notable coaster, not just locally. I understand it isn't that great of a ride now compared to, well, a lot of other stuff. As for the thought the park couldn't build anything else if it was torn down, are you really telling me that if you went to these houses that people are claiming wouldn't allow it and said, "Hey, we're going to tear down this SUPER LOUD wooden coaster and replace it with a silent other than the screaming giga coaster that the people wouldn't be okay with that? Eagle, especially if you manage to be close to it when it's running, is a LOUD coaster.
  15. namtaB sounded absolutely stupid backwards, and I'll admit that I said that I really doubted they would ever do it. Once they did, I HAD to go try it, and carved out some time right before the promotion was over. It wasn't a bad ride experience, but it also wasn't insanely awesome. It was worth doing once, but I didn't feel the need to rush back in line afterward. If you haven't experienced but can, definitely do. Then again, I really don't care for anything turned around. Viper was turned around when I was there too, and I skipped it because I just didn't care. If you like other things backwards, namtaB might be the bees knees.
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