MagnumFreak25 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 a wing rider has straight rail ties on the sides. Nope. Really, the only way to tell is width at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutterflower Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Other people here are clearly better at these things but is there any reason this isn't for the JP Flyer at USJ? The thicker spine on some of the pics would match with what i remember the flyers having in the station areas. Anyway just to summarise things so far. Known rides from B&M for 2016 seem to be as follows Flying Coaster - Universal Studios Japan Wing Coaster - Hotgo Park Hyper Coaster - Sea World Strongly Rumored or Known but unknown year are Dive Machine - Cedar Point Wing Coaster - Canada's Wonderland Wing Coaster - Wanda City Wuxi Wing Coaster - Huayi Brother World As far as I am aware we can only confirm one of those rides has track (The Hotgo park wing coaster is the red track) although SharkTums mentioned USJ already has track on site. So that leaves the brown seen on the previous pages and the green track from this pic as unknowns If i was a betting man I'd say Brown is for CP and green for USJ My reasoning for this is that the Brown track is wider. 6 holes on the Hotgo Wing Rider 10 Holes in Shiekra 10 Holes in Mystery Brown Track (There's also a section with 8 perhaps for the station) Edited July 15, 2015 by Gutterflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTPM Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 a wing rider has straight rail ties on the sides. Nope. Really, the only way to tell is width at this point. If you take a closer look, the rail ties on the outside(not on top) are straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsupercity Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 The Sheikra track looks very similar to the rumored CP track posted abouve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerManic Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Other people here are clearly better at these things but is there any reason this isn't for the JP Flyer at USJ? The thicker spine on some of the pics would match with what i remember the flyers having in the station areas. Anyway just to summarise things so far. Known rides from B&M for 2016 seem to be as follows Flying Coaster - Universal Studios Japan Wing Coaster - Hotgo Park Hyper Coaster - Sea World Strongly Rumored or Known but unknown year are Dive Machine - Cedar Point Wing Coaster - Canada's Wonderland Wing Coaster - Wanda City Wuxi Wing Coaster - Huayi Brother World As far as I am aware we can only confirm one of those rides has track (The Hotgo park wing coaster is the red track) although SharkTums mentioned USJ already has track on site. So that leaves the brown seen on the previous pages and the green track from this pic as unknowns If i was a betting man I'd say Brown is for CP and green for USJ My reasoning for this is that the Brown track is wider. Pretty solid point. I tried conparing the holes but couldnt get pictures from the right angle. Are some if these in the back of the thread? With the holes amd the rectangular connections, its pretty much confirmed as a dive machine (unless B&M pops somethig dofferent on us, which happens a lot in the industry) And to disprove giga rumors: they use 6-bolt wide spines. This is probably why the large dive machines have retangular connectors, and the gigas' appear more squared. They simply have much different spine widths, and the connectors generally run the length of the spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I305forever Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Kinda sorta related fact: The USJ flyer will cost 80 million dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invertalon Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Should start seeing some (bright) green B&M track soon as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Should start seeing some (bright) green B&M track soon as well. Care to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerManic Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 ^Please do. That matte green track has to be an inverted/flyer, because it has outside bankig (only inverts/flyers bank outside on B&M's). My guess is that it is what is left of the USJ that hasn't shipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Hero Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 ^Are there any pictures? I know in the pictures of the Hotgo Park wingrider track originally there was some green track in the background but I believe that was unpainted track with primer on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutterflower Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 So we know where that track went. This is from USJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerManic Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 So I was right an not ALL the track was on site, just some/most. I wonder if it is now that they have begun vertical construction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianparkfan Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 ^Pretty sure brown track is stuff that has yet to be painted. Expect to see a new colour of track next in the future. I would have agreed with you untill Screamscape posted these pictures It really is Brown Just noticed there's unpainted track on the left side of the pic. Wonder what that is. Also, what about the "bright green" track that was mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkjunkie Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 ^Pretty sure brown track is stuff that has yet to be painted. Expect to see a new colour of track next in the future. I would have agreed with you untill Screamscape posted these pictures It really is Brown Just noticed there's unpainted track on the left side of the pic. Wonder what that is. Also, what about the "bright green" track that was mentioned? Unpainted is Dive track, same as you see on the right. Green is for USJ, its been said a few times on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidW Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Dive machine confirmed: Source: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianparkfan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 ^Now the moment of truth... Are these pieces headed north of the border, or staying in the U.S. of A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Projektion Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 That second to last picture confuses me a bit. We can see from the width of the track that it will be a DM, but the base of the lift in that pic has an additional extended piece of spine, like the B&M Gigas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 That second to last picture confuses me a bit. We can see from the width of the track that it will be a DM, but the base of the lift in that pic has an additional extended piece of spine, like the B&M Gigas. If the rumors are true this will be the tallest Dive coaster in the world. Perhaps a similar lift structure to their Giga coasters could be put in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCT3Bross Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 That dive looks to have a pretty steep lifthill. I mean just that big part looks to be around 40 45 degrees and adding that piece next to it would make me guess a 50 to 55 degree lift will be placed. Then again I have the tendency to look at things funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Hero Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It's definitely dive track. The sticker has the acronym DM which presumably stands for "Dive Machcine", but that could possibly be wrong. In addition, only Dive Coasters have 2 sets of antirollbacks on both sides (the other B&M styles only have one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSUFanChris Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) That second to last picture confuses me a bit. We can see from the width of the track that it will be a DM, but the base of the lift in that pic has an additional extended piece of spine, like the B&M Gigas. I think the track piece to the right of the lift piece is giving off that illusion. Check it out again and see if you agree. EDIT: Nevermind, I was not looking at the spine, but instead I was looking at the rails. My bad. Edited August 3, 2015 by FSUFanChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I see it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 In addition, only Dive Coasters have 2 sets of antirollbacks on both sides (the other B&M styles only have one) I seriously just spent more time than I should have looking through hundreds of Dive Machine, and other B&M Coaster photos! Very interesting fact you pointed out. I have never noticed that Dive Machines are the only B&M Coasters with anti-rollbacks on both sides of the chain!! Nice catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillseeker4552 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 While it's technically not 100% confirmed to go to Cedar Point (even though likely), that is absolutely dive machine track--no question. Edit: Oh, and I'd like to add in case some didn't notice, the lift track piece is titled on its side. If you look at the anti-rollbacks, they should be facing the other way. So that "extended" piece is going to face down towards the ground, just like it does on GateKeeper, the gigas, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Hero Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 ^Also a nice catch, I never noticed that! Maybe they will use the giga coaster large lift spine on this one? Looks like B&M is trying new things... ^^haha, I also spent like 15 minutes going through a large amount of photos to make sure I was right and it seems I was. Lol dive machines are weird. Some of the newer ones have brake fins like Intamin's for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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