parkjunkie

You made it a silly game by reading too much into it and not for what was said. I guess its just too hard to comprehend what I was saying, even after explaining it. Again, those that have been on here MUCH longer than 8 or 9 years have seen and heard the lies an empty promises over and over. All I was saying is the less time youve had on here may make it seem like its not as bad. Thats all I was trying to say.... And yet you want to blame someone for playing a silly game which it wasnt and turned it into one, typical mindset in todays world. What does living by the park have to do with any of this? I live less than 15 as well and have been going for 47 years, so whats your point. I worked there from 95-97, and again from 2003-2014, and left permanently after 2014 along with the mass exodus of others that worked there even longer. Many of us saw the writing on the wall and where it was going then and didnt want to have any part of the crumbling future. That mass exodus included quite a few full time employees, maintenance, and tons of other staff that had been there 10-30 years.

IMO Hes just telling it how it is and speaking how a lot of us feel. I know youre somewhat newer here, but a lot of us have been on here for well over a decade and other sites for even longer... and no Im not trying to make it a contest of whos been here longer. All Im saying is we've heard the promises and and have voiced our opinions when asked by the park over the years, hell, some of us even worked at the park, me for 13 years. We're sick of the BS excuses and know the truth, we're allowed to vent and call the park out just as much as the park procrastinates. and polishes turds. You have brought up good points in your posts since joining and show you genuinely care for the park, which I think is awesome if you feel that way. But like I said, many of us have been following these threads and websites for almost 2 decades and having worked at the park, we have seen first hand the BS and lies over and over. At this point its so dumb that its funny

Well they better get it figured out before February 2nd, thats when Im going lol

I find it sad that they didnt make it swing over Thunder's reservoir. Would have made it so much better, great ride none the least

I don't understand all the pessimism. Why are so many people thinking that everything is going to go downhill?? This isn't Six Flags buying out Cedar Fair, its a merger with Cedar Fair and Cedar Fair having majority share/ say... 51/49. If anything, this could be great in the fact that newer smaller parks that SF recently acquired or have had but arent producing will probably be sold off which means paying off debt more quickly and an getting rid of thorns. Next, Cedar Fairs business model is leaps and bounds above Six Flags, so they'll stick with that model which means SF parks will slowly improve. As of now, the board is 6 SF members and 6 CF members, but I guarantee over the the first year, youll see CF replace some of those members with members they want. If it wasnt for this merger, SF would have been in major trouble the next few years and you would have seen parks closing and being sold off to companies that couldnt run them any better. It will take a few years for things to come together, but overall, I see this being a great move.

After working at the park for almost 15 years, late 90s in to 2000s, the biggest problem is exactly this, maintenance. Its been an issue ever since Premier took over. Premier would dump every penny they made, and then some into rides, rides rides, and of course only at select parks. Maintenance was just a memory for many years. Put a bandaid on everything... instead of dropping X amount to fix something, lets spend 3x X over 5 years with bandaids. Then you move forward to the bankruptcy and Shapiro days. Shapiro was brought in to focus on just this, maintenance, upkeep, paint, flowers.... He was brought in to get SF back on its feet and continue his motto. That didnt last long before it was back to wasteful spending, neglect of the parks, and so on.... but yet corporate cant figure out why things are so bad..... SMH

I was just curious if anyone knows when the park normally releases their upcoming year calendar. We will be planning a trip out east in the next month or so. Thanks in advance

LMAO, quite the contrary, I think its hilarious. I'm coming off harsh about those who are trying to defend corporate Six Flags. This board came in years ago saying they were determined to keep Six Flags going in an upward direction. They say they wanted to do so with input from the employees and clientele from each park. As they continued to say they wanted this input, they did the complete opposite. Management that had been there decades started leaving, park presidents retiring, the masses out the door, guests complaints more and more by the years. Those of us that decided to leave warned exactly what would happen if they continued, and look at where its at. This was a long time coming, even before the pandemic, the pandemic just made whats happening now premature a few years. I said it would be 2025 of what we're seeing here in 2022. I just don't get how people are defending corporate Six Flags, a few people here are prime examples. Many Six Flags parks were once top notch parks, some even world renowned... can't say that now at all. So many people get pissy with Six Flags or other parks because the park didn't build a 600Ft, 180mph rollercoaster. I can give 2 craps less about things like that. What makes Six Flags utter crap now a days, is corporate not allowing the parks to run individually as they did for 20, 30, 40 years. They wanted to make them identical across the board... you just can't do that. Next, these parks LOOK horrible and run down. They refuse to spend money to fix things properly, instead patch, glue, and ghetto fix things over and over, which in turns end up costing just as much over time, and still not getting the job done. The lack of care of broken promises to employees affects employees negatively, in return, you get less enthusiastic employees. Employees aren't given tools and resources needed to do their jobs correctly.... you can go on and on with the issues with this corporation. It is so bad that it is literally funny.

LMFAO, you my friend are hilarious. You're upset by the truth, but not by what has caused this truth to happen. I'm not sure why you're so butthurt by the truth. Six Flags has been and still is being run in to the ground. Its been talked about for years that this was going to happen and how it would happen.... and here it is.

Sorry if you don't like the truth

Six Flags corporate has been absolute SH!T for the past 8-10 years or so. They have ran this chain right back in to the ground after Shapiro and his crew did so much to get it back on its feet again. About 8-10 years ago, you saw the mass exodus of hundreds of both long time full times and part times, chain wide, including me. We saw the direction the company was headed and ran before it got to the point its at now. Corporate Six Flags is an absolute joke. They have NO CLUE what the hell they are doing, and the people paying the price are the workers down in the trenches, which corporate can give 2 sh!ts less about. Six Flags parks aren't even amusement parks anymore, corporate has turned them into permanent carninvals.

Unfortunately it has nothing to do with bringing in new people, the positions are being eliminated altogether. Anyone who works in the industry will tell you is this not only a bad move, but almost suicidal. It may not seem like it to the regular Joe, but trust the rumors you are hearing... they arent rumors, its whats happening. Put it this way, departments that used to have 5,6,7 managers are down to 2 and 3, others with 3 and 4 are down to 1 and 2, and others are gone altogether. It was already next to impossible running these departments the past few years, well, it now just got worse. Why do you think Six Flags parks have been having the problems they were having the past few years precovid? Because of understaffed management. Understaffed management led to many other problems all the way down the staffing chain.

LOL, its not major news to be made public, it RARELY is. But even when they do, its shared with the parks first before making headlines to the general public lol. But youre right, since someone who is part of that staff has no clue what they are talking about. Boy, I thought I'd get more push back about everything else other than the layoffs. These decisions affect the general public in every way possible, without these heads on site for immediate decisions, decisions will be delayed, communication will be non existent. This is beyond bad

Six Flags is sinking and sinking FAST, they REALLY just shot themselves in the foot this time. Major layoffs for fulltimes chain wide. Yes, this has happened in the past, consolidating of some departments heads, maybe too many managers in a department, but they have done this multiple times, leaving department managerial staffs running BEYOND thin... well now its horrific. This week, the director of Ops, the director of Food/ Games/ Retail, and Safety manager and a handful of others just got chopped, but yes, you read that right, they eliminated the director of Ops, the director of Food/ Games/ Retail, and Safety manager!!! Horrible horrible horrible move. There is now no 1 person in charge if the departments and the supes and lower managers report either straight to corporate or to the park president. That is exactly how to NOT do things, but they are doing it. Not to mention, the ops and retail directors have been with the chain for decades and were some of the more recognized in their position in the chain. I have stayed VERY silent the past few years on here as Six Flags is sinking faster and faster. They are hemorrhaging and it isnt going to stop any time soon. When corporate decided to start running all parks the same across the board 6 or 7 years ago, many people jumped ship then knowing what happening now was coming, hence why do you think Dave Roemer left when he did? Yes, Dave had retirement coming regardless, but he left whwn he did for a reason, and thats why many others followed him. I have always loved Six Flags, but at this point, theres not much to love, and I fear in the next few years, you will see parks closing or being sold off... its not so much a fear as a fate that is inevitable. The majority of Six Flags parks are nothing but permanent carnivals, and that is SAD, considering what this chain once was. I know there will be many of you that disagree with what I am saying, but Ive been told Im wrong before, and what Ive said in the past unfortunately always becomes a reality. I have been with this corporation FAR too long to just give what I "think" is going to happen. I'll leave you with this, how come chains such as Cedar Fair do so well, but not Six Flags... up until 10-15 years, they were the same type of parks... Its because Six Flags corporate is absolute;y clueless.