Kennyweird Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkscrewFoley Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Maybe Screamscape's writer will add this to the little "Intamin decade of destruction" list. I just don't understand Intamin haters. Intamin is the best f*cking coaster manufacturer out there. Deal with it. Oh, they have already posted their decade of destruction over on 'Scape, and it couldn't sound any more anti-Intamin. I personally feel that their list was a bit overblown, and if parks were oh so concerned about Intamin products, then they wouldn't order them. I'm sure this is going to sound quite fan-boyish, and it was not intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 The boy on Xcelerator wasn't *almost* sliced into 10000000 pieces like you're trying to exaggerate it to be. Nor were the riders on TTD a few years ago. The shards gave people minor cuts. ...it could have been worst. **runs and hide** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I think this thread has been exhausted of all valuable, sensible, and logical argument. Just throwing that out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COASTER FREAK 11 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I think it's totally unfair that everyone instantly blames "Intamin" for this. When was the last time anyone from Intamin even touched this ride? --Robb "The upside? More cable to sell in the shop!" Alvey Haha, I could use another piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeT Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Oh, Oh...not so good news, I guess... Earlier on Holidays Web Page the park wrote that EGF will reopen after about a week...and now, they wrote that it`s not clear, when it will reopen... "Our" Experts/ my buddies from the onride community think, that It´s realistic, that EGF will not reopen this season, cause it`s seriosly damaged... Someone who stood in line when the incident happened said, that it was VERY noisy, there was some smoke and that it would have been very dangerous with a second train waiting in the station... GeorgeT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKULLY Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I know that "it" happens but consider this, how many times have the cables on the Tower of Terror snapped? Only once from what I have heard but luckily that incident turned out with only minor injuries. Just imagine the stress that those cables have to endure almost constantly everyday of the year. Sure, Disney has a much higher budget to work with. But it still makes me truly wonder about these Intamin products. Don't get me wrong, I think that they make the best layouts out of anybody else in the business. Yet, I think that there is something a bit strange going on. I understand that MOST of the breaks have been uneventful but the Xcelerator, SFKK and Top Thrill Dragster incidents show that injuries have occurred. If events such as this were happening on a certain make of commercial aircraft than the entire fleet would be grounded until a solution was found. And just to throw it out there, I highly doubt that Cedar Fair goes cheap when it comes to scheduled maintenance on their beloved attractions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaweetDude04 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Is anyone sure that it is part of the middle of the cable? Could it be possible that where the cable connects to the catch cars is at the breaking point? It's been stated that the cables have about a 1 year life span, with, at least in Xcelerator's case, being within that time span. Just something to ponder, and possibly investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 ^LOL, that has to be the most Intamin fanboy-ish post I've seen on here in a long time. Your saying that "sh*t happens", and nothing should be done to prevent that at all? Manufacturers and parks should NOT take safety precautions because...sh*t happens? Tell that to the little boy who could have been sliced to pieces on Xcelerator a couple weeks ago. Tell that to Kaitlyn Lasitter, who got her feet cut of on an Intamin drop tower a few years ago. We are beginning to hear of these cable snapping incidents multiple times PER MONTH. Some of them may have more serious results than others, but I don't understand how you all can possible believe that this is acceptable. I love Intamin just as much as the next guy...most of my Top Ten coasters are Intamins, and there is nothing in the world I would rather do than marathon their drop towers. However, when my safety is put at risk because people today take a "sh*t happens" attitude instead of a "let's fix this" attitude...well, that is just wrong. If the choice came down to riding a cookie-cutter B&M and coming off a bit disappointed, or ride an insane Intamin coaster and losing you limbs, I'd be dismayed if you chose the latter. At the least, Intamin could hire a different company to produce cables for use on their rides. (The one they currently work with obviously isn't working out...) LOL, that has to be the most unintelligent, over-exaggerated post I've seen on here in a long time. My point was that everyone just uses every single little accident to point the finger at Intamin, the company which, as Robb stated before, probably hasn't touched the ride since it was built nearly a decade ago. By the way, I don't know what calendar you use, but the Xcelerator incident happened in September. It is now October, and Expedition GeForce's cable broke THIS month. So your "omg multiple times a second" post is retardedly exaggerated. Do you need to go back to school to learn the way the calendar works? Parks aren't taking a "sh*t happens" attitude, we are, in defending those who just point the finger automatically. I'm sure most parks replace the cables as prescribed by the manufacturer, and sometimes, accidents happen. Oh, and in case you haven't noticed, the way the cable systems are designed for Intamin's lift hills, when cables break, the cable doesn't shard up out of it's housing and hit people. The boy on Xcelerator wasn't *almost* sliced into 10000000 pieces like you're trying to exaggerate it to be. Nor were the riders on TTD a few years ago. The shards gave people minor cuts. And the SFKK incident had nothing to do with Intamin. It was found that the park replaced the tower's cables with the wrong type of cables not up to par with the stress handling levels they should be. I've personally seen my local park replacing cables and chains on coasters/skycoaster/rides in the off-season. Parks try everything in their power to avoid an embarrassing or life-threatening situation. They don't just say "screw it, the rusty chains are fine". 1. If you think my post was the most unintelligent and over-exaggerated on here in a long time, you should go back and reread yours...I assure you, it beats mine. 2. When did I say anything about the cables snapping per second...? I believe (actually, I know) I said per month, and that's not much of an exaggeration at all. I can name 3 Intamin coasters that have had their cables snap just this summer. (MF, Xcelerator, and now this) 3. Oh, and in case you haven't noticed, the way the cable systems are designed for Intamin's lift hills, when cables break, the cable doesn't shard up out of it's housing and hit people. So...explain to me what's going on here with MF's cable then, please: http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/mf_cable_149.jpg You're telling me that this isn't an exposed cable that could cause any harm at all to riders? Interesting. 4. The boy on Xcelerator wasn't *almost* sliced into 10000000 pieces like you're trying to exaggerate it to be. Hmm...once again, never said that. Actually, the boy suffered from lacerations on his legs. Lacerations are deep, jagged tears, not minor cuts. 5. And the SFKK incident had nothing to do with Intamin. It was found that the park replaced the tower's cables with the wrong type of cables not up to par with the stress handling levels they should be. You completely missed my point about this one, too. I wasn't blaming Intamin for the incident at all, merely pointing out how much damage a *cough*snapped cable*cough* can do. See...if you would just take a few seconds to think about people's posts before you immediately start formulating a bitter, exaggerated reply, you'll understand things that you never would have before. Funny how that works, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Before everyone continues arguing over a stupid cable, let's all remember this.... - No one got hurt. - There are more deadly things to worry about every day...like drunk drivers. - On average, more people get eaten by sharks every year than killed by snapping roller coaster cables. I hope that puts things into perspective. Now please, continue pointless argument! --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atem122 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 - On average, more people get eaten by sharks every year than killed by snapping roller coaster cables. I hope that puts things into perspective. And to put THAT into perspective, more people get killed by chairs each year than sharks As Robb said, nobody was hurt so it's not a big deal...it's just a very bad year for cables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Before everyone continues arguing over a stupid cable, let's all remember this.... - No one got hurt. - There are more deadly things to worry about every day...like drunk drivers. - On average, more people get eaten by sharks every year than killed by snapping roller coaster cables. I hope that puts things into perspective. Now please, continue pointless argument! --Robb Thank you! I was going to post earlier but this had turned into a silly and stupid argument. But I will say I find these cable snapping incidents to be nothing more than coincidence. The cables snapped, nobody got really seriously injured, they will be replaced and repairs will be made, the rides will re-open, so let's just move on shall we? Besides, it was probably going to snap sooner or later it just happens that it was sooner- no big deal. And FAR MORE people get injured or killed just in auto accidents per year than a cable snapping on a roller coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyyyper Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I'm curious why they don't spot a deteriorating cable during daily checks? Surely the cables show signs of wear and tear before snapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moinab Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 If I snap, I'm blaming this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteornotes Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 - On average, more people get eaten by sharks every year than killed by snapping roller coaster cables. This is the sort of statistic that I approve of. Actually, sharks really don't attack that many people. Which needs to be fixed. This is exactly the sort of thing that scientists should be working on day and night, to make sure sharks attack more people. And planes. dt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyyyper Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 And planes. dt definatly planes. I'm no marine biologist, but how hard could it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzo Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 On average, more people get eaten by sharks every year than killed by snapping roller coaster cables. Just to put shark attacks in perspective, at school we had a patient panel where one of them had actually been attacked by a shark. The surgeon in Hawaii had actually never even seen a shark attack before. Now I'm sure it's different in Australia, where you have to have no less than 25 children because 23-24 of them will be eaten by sharks, spiders, or crocs. But that's to be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I find it amazing that so many pages have been devoted to an "incident" in which a ride malfunctioned, the safety systems worked, and no one was hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkscrewFoley Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hey, if my cable goes out while I'm watching TV, do I blame Intamin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calicoasters Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 ^I blame Intamin for everything because they are the company we deserve, but not the company we need right now. So we will blame them because they can take it, because they aren't just a company, they are our dark knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenA07 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I find it amazing that so many pages have been devoted to an "incident" in which a ride malfunctioned, the safety systems worked, and no one was hurt. I fully agree, the ride broke down, all the safety systems worked, that's the end of the story. Rides break, and it isn't always the fault of the company that built it. If your 1986 Ford Pinto, with 250,000 miles on it, has a belt snap (an original belt), you're not going to be complaining that Ford makes inferior products, you're going to suck it up and blame it on the fact you're driving a 23 year old car. In this case the coaster may not be that old, but it has been in service for several years now. Intamin doesn't come do daily inspections to make sure it is in good shape, the park does. In my opinion Intamin basically has nothing to do with this, and has been taking far too much blame recently. And just a side note, my biggest fear is neither planes nor shark attacks, but rather being attacked by a shark while on a plane, that's the kind of thing that gives me nightmares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkscrewFoley Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Well put, my friend . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dammie16@vt.edu Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 The factor of safety on a plane is like 0.1 because youre in a chair above shark infested waters and somewhere within a 0-1000 mile radius of an intamin cable system, which may have been installed by a drunk driver! So many dangers when flying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 ^I blame Intamin for everything because they are the company we deserve, but not the company we need right now. So we will blame them because they can take it, because they aren't just a company, they are our dark knight. POTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeT Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 If I got it right it would have been VERY dangerous with a second train in the station, which is very often the case. So maybe it`s not that harmless... GeorgeT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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