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P. 288: New B&M Dive Machine Announced!

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I'm definitely excited about my second ever trip down to SFFT, and my son's first ever trip there (and Texas, period) in June for the Roller Coaster Rodeo! I've always loved this park since my first visit back in 2003 (probably the "best" SF park overall, IMO), and it's only gotten better since then from what I've seen and heard! I'm somebody who doesn't hate on Dive Coasters to begin with (or the vest restraints), so Dr. Diabolical's definitely looks amazing to me, and I can't wait to help christen it in a few months! 😃

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I'm going again this summer as well, and it'll be my first trip there since 2001.  Last time I was there, Joker's Revenge (the backwards Arrow) was still a thing. 

Do they still have that cliff/fireworks show?

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31 minutes ago, ryder said:

I'm going again this summer as well, and it'll be my first trip there since 2001.  Last time I was there, Joker's Revenge (the backwards Arrow) was still a thing. 

Do they still have that cliff/fireworks show?

they've improved it for a Fireworks in the Round show for the 30th Anniversary.

it only runs on certain nights tho.. so you'll have to check the schedule with the park :)


https://www.sixflags.com/fiestatexas/events/seasonal-fireworks

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Per Park President Jeffrey Siebert - the circuit is now complete!  

With Golden Bolt.

 

oh, he also says "a major reveal" is coming soon!

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So I finally made it to SFFT after some 20 years or so of wanting to get to this place... Not sure what took so long, but better late than never!

We visited this past Sunday (April 3rd)... We paid our $30+tax to park (oof!) and arrived to a beautiful site of an empty parking lot… Not even a full row of cars, which much like Sea World the prior two days, resulted in walk-on rides of everything in the park our entire visit. So that was awesome...

Arrived right at rope drop, so after a quick look at Dr. Diabolical with it’s baby-poo support color (sorry, I hate it), and we headed to Iron Rattler… Which was not yet ready… So we went to Roadrunner for a quick ride (modern mine train, OK for what it was) before waiting just about 5 minutes for Iron Rattler to open. Hopped on the backseat and we were off on the first train of the day.

I was excited for this RMC given it’s unique layout and placement. The first drop was amazing, but the rest of the ride that followed was just kind of ho-hum. Super smooth, a fun barrel roll up to the cliff and a great drop back down, but when we hit the break run we both agreed it was OK. Honestly, out of all the RMC’s ridden, probably at the bottom? Again, not a bad ride, but I think I find every other one I’ve been on more exciting/fun in some way. This list includes for reference Wicked Cyclone, Goliath, Storm Chaser, Vengeance, Joker & Twisted Colossus.

Next up, Superman... I always recall the battle between Batman Knight Flight and Superman as who had the bigger loop from my early enthusiast days… Fun times. This ride is probably the one I’ve been most looking forward to riding on this trip, honestly, next to Stingray at SW… So I was really excited. Always liked floorless coasters and was curious if this or BKF/Dominator would reign supreme. We walked right on row 1 and off we went… What a great layout! The ride didn’t disappoint and the dives off the cliffs, the epic G-Roll and flow of elements was really fantastic. I liked the small pop of air going into the turn after the loop, which was not expected. A touch rattly, but it’s also some 20 years old now so I won’t hold it against it. At the end of the day, I still can't chose which I prefer between the two floorless monsters, and that's a good problem to have. Loved Superman!

Headed over to Poltergeist and really enjoyed the theming, the ride was running great and probably the best ride I’ve had on one of these Premiere bowls. Super smooth, insane head choppers. Good fun.

Wonder Woman was next, which to be honest, I was not really excited for. This would be my first single rail RMC (we just missed the one at CGA by a few weeks). These rides look uncomfortable, but I went in with an open mind anyway. I crammed my 6’5” frame into the restraints (not really that bad, actually) and off we went. It was about exactly what I had expected… It was super fast, filled with extreme forces and felt like a wild mouse on steroids… Not rough per-say, but the train didn’t really track well and sloppily kind of clunked around the course. It was better than expected, but not something I cared to ride again during our visit. Just not my cup of tea. I think the larger variants like at Great Adventure and Magic Mountain would be better, for sure. So I look forward to trying one of those ones out (planning to be back to SFMM this fall). 

Batman the S&S 4-D freespin was next on the roster… God, I really hate these rides. Tried the one at Great America (Joker?) and hated it, but thought I would give it another try… But a big fat nope. These things just suck in every way and I hate how these are the new boomerangs popping up everywhere. I absolutely love/adore X2 and what it does, for comparison, but these are torture traps with absolutely no good qualities. Moving on…

Took a quick lap on Pandemonium, another two rides on Superman and finished the day out on Goliath at the front of the park. 

We spent just around 5 hours total in the park before heading out.  Liked the park a lot and pleasantly surprised that even for as dead as it was, the park ran at least two trains on everything (except Iron Rattler at 1 train due to off-season work). But things were clean and the park as a whole looked great. A bit hot in the Texas sun with a lack of shade and typical Six Flags black top to help roast you in the 88 degree heat. Glad we finally made it here! 

 

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you didn't ride any flats tho? 

Daredevil Dive is GREAT (when it's working) and I love Pirates of Deep Sea (on boardwalk) and Hustler (super unique teacups ride).

The Batman at SFFT is the 1st S&S they built, so at least it's not a clone, and it does tend to flip more than the other copies.

 

glad you had  great day tho. . . . low crowds is perfect. . and good on you for skipping Boomerang (LOL)

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Daredevil Dive was open, but did not ride. I don't do particularly well on spinny flats, so tend to avoid them. Girlfriend got in line for it, but it was probably the only thing with a sizable line the entire day so she bailed... Also, I saw Pirates, but thought it was one of those 'upside down' fun house things (silly me for not doing my research better!), I was unaware it was a shoot-em-up dark ride. Would have checked it out if so! haha


Yeah, I toyed with the Boomerang just because... But I'm never that desperate for any credit, nor do I care about that, so I tend to avoid SLC's/Boomerangs and now add S&S Freespins to the list...!

But yeah, our two days at Sea World and SFFT were absolutely great in terms of crowd levels and such. At the end of the day, I actually preferred Sea World, believe it or not, but both are killer parks! 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Invertalon said:

So I finally made it to SFFT after some 20 years or so of wanting to get to this place... Not sure what took so long, but better late than never!

We visited this past Sunday (April 3rd)... We paid our $30+tax to park (oof!) and arrived to a beautiful site of an empty parking lot… Not even a full row of cars, which much like Sea World the prior two days, resulted in walk-on rides of everything in the park our entire visit. So that was awesome...

Arrived right at rope drop, so after a quick look at Dr. Diabolical with it’s baby-poo support color (sorry, I hate it), and we headed to Iron Rattler… Which was not yet ready… So we went to Roadrunner for a quick ride (modern mine train, OK for what it was) before waiting just about 5 minutes for Iron Rattler to open. Hopped on the backseat and we were off on the first train of the day.

I was excited for this RMC given it’s unique layout and placement. The first drop was amazing, but the rest of the ride that followed was just kind of ho-hum. Super smooth, a fun barrel roll up to the cliff and a great drop back down, but when we hit the break run we both agreed it was OK. Honestly, out of all the RMC’s ridden, probably at the bottom? Again, not a bad ride, but I think I find every other one I’ve been on more exciting/fun in some way. This list includes for reference Wicked Cyclone, Goliath, Storm Chaser, Vengeance, Joker & Twisted Colossus.

Next up, Superman... I always recall the battle between Batman Knight Flight and Superman as who had the bigger loop from my early enthusiast days… Fun times. This ride is probably the one I’ve been most looking forward to riding on this trip, honestly, next to Stingray at SW… So I was really excited. Always liked floorless coasters and was curious if this or BKF/Dominator would reign supreme. We walked right on row 1 and off we went… What a great layout! The ride didn’t disappoint and the dives off the cliffs, the epic G-Roll and flow of elements was really fantastic. I liked the small pop of air going into the turn after the loop, which was not expected. A touch rattly, but it’s also some 20 years old now so I won’t hold it against it. At the end of the day, I still can't chose which I prefer between the two floorless monsters, and that's a good problem to have. Loved Superman!

Headed over to Poltergeist and really enjoyed the theming, the ride was running great and probably the best ride I’ve had on one of these Premiere bowls. Super smooth, insane head choppers. Good fun.

Wonder Woman was next, which to be honest, I was not really excited for. This would be my first single rail RMC (we just missed the one at CGA by a few weeks). These rides look uncomfortable, but I went in with an open mind anyway. I crammed my 6’5” frame into the restraints (not really that bad, actually) and off we went. It was about exactly what I had expected… It was super fast, filled with extreme forces and felt like a wild mouse on steroids… Not rough per-say, but the train didn’t really track well and sloppily kind of clunked around the course. It was better than expected, but not something I cared to ride again during our visit. Just not my cup of tea. I think the larger variants like at Great Adventure and Magic Mountain would be better, for sure. So I look forward to trying one of those ones out (planning to be back to SFMM this fall). 

Batman the S&S 4-D freespin was next on the roster… God, I really hate these rides. Tried the one at Great America (Joker?) and hated it, but thought I would give it another try… But a big fat nope. These things just suck in every way and I hate how these are the new boomerangs popping up everywhere. I absolutely love/adore X2 and what it does, for comparison, but these are torture traps with absolutely no good qualities. Moving on…

Took a quick lap on Pandemonium, another two rides on Superman and finished the day out on Goliath at the front of the park. 

We spent just around 5 hours total in the park before heading out.  Liked the park a lot and pleasantly surprised that even for as dead as it was, the park ran at least two trains on everything (except Iron Rattler at 1 train due to off-season work). But things were clean and the park as a whole looked great. A bit hot in the Texas sun with a lack of shade and typical Six Flags black top to help roast you in the 88 degree heat. Glad we finally made it here! 

 

Some pictures from our visit below:

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Glad you enjoyed your day, it's so interesting to me how everyone's tastes run (which is a good thing or we would all line up for the same ride, lol) I've ridden about a dozen RMC's loved IR and WW (the one at GAdv is way more rattly in my opinion) but floorless coasters, including Superman are often just eh, one and done for me. Agree with Bert you should have definitely hit Pirates of the Deep Sea and they have a good log flume too.

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On 4/8/2022 at 11:09 AM, Invertalon said:

Daredevil Dive was open, but did not ride. I don't do particularly well on spinny flats, so tend to avoid them. Girlfriend got in line for it, but it was probably the only thing with a sizable line the entire day so she bailed... Also, I saw Pirates, but thought it was one of those 'upside down' fun house things (silly me for not doing my research better!), I was unaware it was a shoot-em-up dark ride. Would have checked it out if so! haha


Yeah, I toyed with the Boomerang just because... But I'm never that desperate for any credit, nor do I care about that, so I tend to avoid SLC's/Boomerangs and now add S&S Freespins to the list...!

But yeah, our two days at Sea World and SFFT were absolutely great in terms of crowd levels and such. At the end of the day, I actually preferred Sea World, believe it or not, but both are killer parks! 

 

 

 

I do understand that! I also do not do well on spinny flats even when I take something

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Here today for an event and got an amazing behind the scenes tour of Dr Ds Cliffhanger 

 

way more pics later.  But sharing a couple now 

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Just a heads up: Looks like the new coaster wont be ready for Coaster Rodeo.  That's unfortunate but what can you do?  Park has started alerting folks and schedule online has been updated.  Does look like the lift hill tour will still happen.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, tndank said:

Just a heads up: Looks like the new coaster wont be ready for Coaster Rodeo.  That's unfortunate but what can you do?  Park has started alerting folks and schedule online has been updated.  Does look like the lift hill tour will still happen.

 

 

Jeffrey announced that during Fiesta Fest on Sat. . . .

 

I 100% do NOT believe him.

 

they are trying not to get folks hopes up - just in case -  but I just don't believe it.

this thing will be testing by May  . . .no way it wont.  They are simply too far ahead on it already.

- honestly, the only thing that might be preventing RCR opening, is if they can't get an inspection scheduled and passed by then. . . .  but I have faith they are moving heaven and earth to try and make that happen.


but yeah. . they are announcing this so folks won't be disappointed if they can't get that done.    (as noted, I absolutely believe the ride will be "ready" by May, even if it can't open until inspection/approval happens)

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It does seem a bit odd they are 2 months out and don't think they can get it done with a B&M.  But that news can't help with new ticket sales.  I hope they get it open it for you guys.

 

 

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^oh, I'm actually not doing RCR.

it's a GREAT event (last years - the 1st - I heard was a blast).  For sure a "destination" event for those who haven't been to the park often and want to exp;experience what they have to offer (including a version of FrightFest during RCR).

but I'm local, and go to the park all the time. . . so I choose to avoid the multi-day weekend big event, as I'd rather do the smaller 1 day events.

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I attended RCR last year. The backstage tours and whole-park ERT alone make it worth the trip - even without the new coaster. Plus, they give you two drink tickets during ERT that are good for any beverage (including alcohol). No beer jail, either.

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Did the park ever mention why they chose 7-across vs. 6 or 8 across (already 'done' design/options with vest restraints) from previous drive coasters built? 

I am assuming here, but I'm thinking B&M has standard 4/6/8 width options available as "off the shelf" train options. I find it less likely that they also have 5, 7 and 9 passenger width options, for example, already designed and ready to go. Just wondering the 7-across was a 'custom' request that incured additional engineering/design charges... Because it seems like it wouldn't be worth it, if that is the case, with both 6/8 options ready to go if you wanted more/less capacity already.

Doesn't really matter... But it is interesting none-the-less. 

 

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1 hour ago, Invertalon said:

Did the park ever mention why they chose 7-across vs. 6 or 8 across (already 'done' design/options with vest restraints) from previous drive coasters built? 

I am assuming here, but I'm thinking B&M has standard 4/6/8 width options available as "off the shelf" train options. I find it less likely that they also have 5, 7 and 9 passenger width options, for example, already designed and ready to go. Just wondering the 7-across was a 'custom' request that incured additional engineering/design charges... Because it seems like it wouldn't be worth it, if that is the case, with both 6/8 options ready to go if you wanted more/less capacity already.

Doesn't really matter... But it is interesting none-the-less. 

 

it was done because of two things:

 

1) Cost - with 7 across, they can utilize the existing "smaller" track. . they didn't need to go with the bigger/wider track to support 8 across, and didnt' have to pay for the bigger track which would result in a bigger footprint (that the park really doesn't have). 

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2) bragging rights - it was realized they could keep the smaller track, but add an extra seat to not only help with capacity, but also to give a "centerline seat". . something never done before on a dive coaster.   So a rider can be centered directly above the track while riding.   Something that SFFT has already been using in promotion of the coaster.  

So it kept costs down, allowed it to be fit into existing space available, and it gives them bragging rights for a 1st of it's kind drop *and* train design for a dive coaster.

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Cost is one of my questions, though... If 6-across and 8-across models already existed as off-the-shelf options, was the 7-across train a standard option as well? Otherwise if a special request, the park is paying additional R&D for the capability to modify the existing 6-person train width to add 3 seats to a train. Seems silly. Also, the 6-across train also already utilizes the smaller track, so that is already a go-to option with the cost savings of the smaller gauge track and all that goes with it. 

Bragging rights, maybe...  But I'm thinking B&M offers 6/7/8 across options (6/7 utilizing the smaller track) and the only real difference is the train cost increase for the wider train option if the park chooses... So they went with it for capacity (good thing) and then made the marketing schtick after the fact (silly, but much of marketing is). 

So who will build the first 5-across variant and market it as the worlds first? 😛

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you're missing the point that the 7 across was NOT an option.

SFFT requested the 7 across seating to utilize the smaller track.

so yes, that's the answer:  Cost/Space Savings to use the smaller existing track, and bragging rights to have the 1st 7across train (with centerline seat - a first for a dive coaster), created for SFFT.

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