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For those of you that have been to Kings Island can you fill me in on the good seats to try and ride on for Diamondback, Beast, Firehawk, Invertigo, and Vortex?

 

This will more than likely be my one any only trip to Kings Island so would like to make the best of it, thanks.

Try to get a front and back seat ride on Diamondback if possible. I like the back the most, but the front offers some unique floater air going up the hills.

 

Vortex is best in the back. Great air on the first drop and headbanging is more or less bearable. Just watch out for the transition out of the first loop. It's a hard one.

 

For Firehawk and Invertigo it doesn't really matter. Both are decent rides wherever.

 

I recommend the second to last row on Beast. All the fun of the backseat with not as much roughness as the very back.

 

You're welcome.

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Definitely try to get the front row on Firehawk. It's FAR more intense up there than anywhere else on the train.

 

And I'll back up SFOGdude's recommendation of the second-to-last row on the Beast. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, this is the ONLY row worth riding on the Beast. Also, make sure to get a ride in at night. It's literally the best coaster-experience you will find at Kings Island (or almost anywhere else, really).

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Also, make sure to get a ride in at night. It's literally the best coaster-experience you will find at Kings Island (or almost anywhere else, really).

 

Hmm . . . not sure I would go that far. While I agree that Beast is best at night, there are, oh, about 23 other wooden coasters I'd rather ride--but to each his own. That being said, I like Beast well enough, mostly thanks to its rather eccentric layout.

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To me Firehawk isn't even worth riding unless it is front seat.

 

Flight of Fear is more fun in the front seat but try to do both back seat and front seat at least once each.

 

Vortex I agree with others back seat is best but still brace yourself for the ride.

 

Beast I agree with everyone else about second from the back and also it would be best to get a ride at night. Not dusk but pitch black. So depending on the time of year you should get in line just before the fireworks(right before they cut the line) even though the ride shuts down between 9:45 and 10:15 for the fireworks. If your in line before the fireworks you get to ride no matter how late it gets. In July it is still slightly light out at 9:20ish. But if you are good you can try timing up so you get on the ride between 930 and 945 but if you end up missing it by a minute you have to wait to ride until after 1015. Hope that made sense.

 

Diamondback I agree front and back but will add the second row is just as good as the front row and a lot less waiting. Due to the different style of cars the second row gets a front row view.

 

Invertigo I would say either front/back but after some "research" I found the front seat facing Congo Falls to be slightly better than the front seat facing the parking lot. Can't really explain it but it is what it is.

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Invertigo is very intense in the front (almost TOO intense). But if you want it intense but not that intense i would try the middle. Firehawk is good in the front but IMO i like the back best. Diamondback is great in the front but the back is so intense i almost always go their. The Beast is great as some people said in the middle of the back car. But an alternative is the front seat(its not that rough even though its on a wheel) Vortex is great in 5th car 1st row it makes it a whole better ride. But another alternative is the back car.

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I want to win a bag o crap so here is my random post.

 

So what is SOB going to have in its place? I see 3 options that could work. B & M Invert, Launch Coaster like Cheetah Hunt (better for families that KI likes to go for instead of the Maverick type of coaster) or a Giga which I find not likely.

 

 

At least I tried to put something good on my post for the bag o crap!!

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I could really see a 4D coaster going in at SOB site. I mean their last big addition was in 09'. KI is one of the most popular parks and they probobly reel in tons of $$$. 4 years of nothing added is a lot of total money, Now 4D's do cost about 50 Million though. But if you think about it they wont add a Wing Coaster because CP is adding one themselves. Remember the parks are rivals so KI would want to add something crazy and unique, something CP doesnt have as they did in the past.

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I could really see a 4D coaster going in at SOB site. I mean their last big addition was in 09'. KI is one of the most popular parks and they probobly reel in tons of $$$. 4 years of nothing added is a lot of total money, Now 4D's do cost about 50 Million though. But if you think about it they wont add a Wing Coaster because CP is adding one themselves. Remember the parks are rivals so KI would want to add something crazy and unique, something CP doesnt have as they did in the past.

Bit hopeful, aren't we? Also, what about Windseeker, Dinosaurs Alive and Delirium? They have plenty of rides in common.

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I could really see a 4D coaster going in at SOB site. I mean their last big addition was in 09'. KI is one of the most popular parks and they probobly reel in tons of $$$. 4 years of nothing added is a lot of total money, Now 4D's do cost about 50 Million though. But if you think about it they wont add a Wing Coaster because CP is adding one themselves. Remember the parks are rivals so KI would want to add something crazy and unique, something CP doesnt have as they did in the past.

 

You do realize that S&S's traditional 4D coaster is one of the most expensive coaster systems in the world right? That idea is a massive pipe dream more than anything else...

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^Plus I doubt their reputation is good enough for many, if any, more of them to crop up. Even if the newer ones supposedly run better than X2.

 

As for a B&M giga...really?! At least if that happens, the "two similar coasters in the same park" discussions won't be quite as bad (at least among knowledgeable folks like us), since it's been done before.

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I do realize that. I describe that in my post. What im saying is that they will likley add a game changer, something to beat out CP. Just think of all the extra people that would attract there. I would kill to ride X2 but i live on the east coast and probobly will never get out there to ride it. But if one is added to KI i could drive there and ride that and still enjoy an already pretty good park.

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Your not getting my main point. My main argument is that they will add something that CP doesnt have! Thats it! Why add a giga, multi-launcher, large launcher, or WingRider&B&M Invert if they are just north. They will want to add something that CP doesnt have thats big and will be popular. Im aware that they are owned by the same company but there can still be a rival between them, they are both in Ohio and are bigger named parks that are sort of close to each other.

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^Does it really matter if KI gets a ride that is similar to what CP already has? How often does the park advertise in the Cleveland and Northern Ohio area anyway? They don't except for maybe a few years I can count on one hand. I remember are 1979 when the Beast was new, 1999 they did a few commericals regarding their new Face/Off and Drop Zone, and billboards advertised the addition/remake of Boomerang Bay about ten years ago. The only battleground would be Columbus and Central Ohio.

 

I would like to see a B&M giga. Nothing wrong with a similar style coaster already at CP but designed by a different manufacturer.

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Bit hopeful, aren't we? Also, what about Windseeker, Dinosaurs Alive and Delirium? They have plenty of rides in common.

I'll give you Windseeker and Dinosaurs Alive, but remember that Delirium was built under Paramount ownership (wasn't it the first Huss Giant Frisbee as well?).

 

Honestly, just because two coaster types are similar doesn't mean that they would be carbon copies of each other. Millennium Force vs Intimidator 305, Raging Bull vs Goliath (SFOG), Nemesis vs Pyrenees - the list of comparisons goes on and on.

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I think all of you are missing what kind of park KI is at this point.(or I am) They are not really a coaster park like CP anymore. Back in the day they were trying to one up CP. For example Vortex at time of its opening had most amount of inversions. Then SOB was trying to be biggest baddest ride. Now I think the park has gone with a different tone. I feel they are trying to be more family oriented. I would love a giga but does that really fit the park now. I could be way off but I think the park could go with a launch coaster because it would be geared to more wide range of people. I know Stunt Coaster is similar but they could do a cross between Cheetah Hunt and Maverick. Maybe 3 inversion added to Cheetah Hunt to make it appeal more to the enthusiast while not being too extreme for the younger crowd. Of course I can be way off base and they could do something big and try to get back to a higher level of extreme. Looking at money they usually spend 15-20 mil in the offseason and this year they have spent around 10 to demolish SOB from newspaper accounts. Hopefully they roll the extra into next year and spend 25-30 mil on something. They do have a lot of options because I think they are missing some key type coasters that most other parks have or are getting.

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