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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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And keep in mind that quite frequently, a new ride replaces an old (or relocated) one. Removing rides can be just as important as adding new ones from a maintenance and efficiency perspective.

 

I agree with youe comment. There are plenty of places they can install new things if they really wanted to add more rides. Moreover that park is infamous for moving their flat rides around the park. Cedar Point will always have space for new rides b/c some rides just get obsolete and old.

 

The park has 72 rides. That means in theory they could swap out rides, retire roller coasters and upgrade things with ease. Just an example, not a prediction. If the park wanted to they could

*Take out the drop towers and add a Falcon Fury type tower

*Get ride of Gemini and add a Dueling eurofighters

* Wilderness run can we swapped out for a Flying Ace Aerial Chase like the one in Carowinds.

 

I'll just say again these are just examples not predictions of ways the park could continue to improve with out ever having to worry about land issues.

 

My personal prediction for the next year is a Trio-tech dark ride themed after pirated trying to take Cedar Points "treasured" roller coasters. I think that with the Justice League rides owning Tri-tech the new attraction will have screens and better live sets.

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Just wow....

 

That is my favorite angle. Wow.

 

Between the much sharper exit to the immelman this dive coaster has, and the less gradual pullout from the drop, the forces on Valravn should be much more intense than Shiekra or Griffon.

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And keep in mind that quite frequently, a new ride replaces an old (or relocated) one. Removing rides can be just as important as adding new ones from a maintenance and efficiency perspective.

 

I agree with youe comment. There are plenty of places they can install new things if they really wanted to add more rides. Moreover that park is infamous for moving their flat rides around the park. Cedar Point will always have space for new rides b/c some rides just get obsolete and old.

 

The park has 72 rides. That means in theory they could swap out rides, retire roller coasters and upgrade things with ease. Just an example, not a prediction. If the park wanted to they could

*Get ride of Gemini and add a Dueling eurofighters

 

I know you said predictions, but I have to address the blatant disregard for efficiency here. With regards to removing and replacing capacity, removing a ride that has an insane pph (thousands) and replacing it with a ride or even rides that couldn't top 1000 pph combined... come on...

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Actually CP'S efficiency is way better than most US parks I have been to. Don't make that comment unless you know.

 

 

Absolutely true. Cedar Point by far has some of the best efficiency of any US park (aside from maybe Disney.) For the most part Cedar Point's ride operators are upbeat, hard working, fast paced, and efficient.

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Actually CP'S efficiency is way better than most US parks I have been to. Don't make that comment unless you know.

 

You completely missed his point. Cedar Point will never get a eurofighter in any form because they are a relatively low capacity ride, it has nothing to do with how efficient CP's staff is.

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Actually CP'S efficiency is way better than most US parks I have been to. Don't make that comment unless you know.

 

You completely missed his point. Cedar Point will never get a eurofighter in any form because they are a relatively low capacity ride, it has nothing to do with how efficient CP's staff is.

 

No i understood his point! And, nobody ever considered CP getting a Eurofighter! Thanks for your attempted help

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*Get ride of Gemini and add a Dueling eurofighters

 

I know you said predictions, but I have to address the blatant disregard for efficiency here. With regards to removing and replacing capacity, removing a ride that has an insane pph (thousands) and replacing it with a ride or even rides that couldn't top 1000 pph combined... come on...

 

Try reading.

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Watching the way Valravn is starting to shape up I think it's going to be the most forceful Dive Machine yet.

 

Now, maybe once people ride it they will stop complaining about "How forceless new B&M's (especially Dive Machines) are."

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Watching the way Valravn is starting to shape up I think it's going to be the most forcelful Dive Machine yet.

 

Now, maybe once people ride it they will stop complaining about "How forceless new B&M's (especially Dive Machines) are."

 

I'm assuming you meant this^? If so, I agree.

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And keep in mind that quite frequently, a new ride replaces an old (or relocated) one. Removing rides can be just as important as adding new ones from a maintenance and efficiency perspective.

 

I agree with youe comment. There are plenty of places they can install new things if they really wanted to add more rides. Moreover that park is infamous for moving their flat rides around the park. Cedar Point will always have space for new rides b/c some rides just get obsolete and old.

 

The park has 72 rides. That means in theory they could swap out rides, retire roller coasters and upgrade things with ease. Just an example, not a prediction. If the park wanted to they could

*Get ride of Gemini and add a Dueling eurofighters

 

I know you said predictions, but I have to address the blatant disregard for efficiency here. With regards to removing and replacing capacity, removing a ride that has an insane pph (thousands) and replacing it with a ride or even rides that couldn't top 1000 pph combined... come on...

 

Just to be clear that was not a prediction. I should have proof read a little better but I think even though I said ride instead rid I made it clear that the point I was making is that Cedar Point will never run out of space because they have so many rides that they can just keep closing older attractions and putting in new ones.

 

More to your point Gemini might be a high capacity ride but in 2015 it is not operating at maximum capacity. If CP were to replace the Gemini it would be replacing a roller coaster that is not drawing anyone to the park.

 

In 2014 Gemini had 1.3 million riders which relatively short lines.

*http://coaster-nation.com/cedar-point-coaster-ridership-2014-by-the-numbers/

 

Gerstlauer has a Euro fighter model that can move 1000 people a hour. 1000pph x 12 hours a day x 140 days = 1.6 million a year. If It was a DUELING Euro fighter that would be 3.2 million

*http://www.gerstlauer-rides.de/assets/downloads/brochures/Euro-Fighter.pdf

 

I don't think Cedar Point would ever build a ride like that but the point I was making is that they could and many people probably won't miss the Gemini when it leaves. I don't think anyone would shed a tear if CP said they are replacing it with deuling Euro fighters and from the logistics side that would be a people eating machine.

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Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this.

 

I'm sure a lot of people would be upset if Gemeni was removed... Not enthusiasts, but families with kids as its a fun, family friendly ride and the racing aspect makes it stand out from the other coasters in the park. Rides like Iron Dragon, Gemeni, Blue Streak and Mine Ride serve an important purpose in the park. The park needs to have something to offer people who have graduated from small kids rides but aren't ready for looping coasters and hyper coasters yet. With the other additions they recently made to the Gemeni midway they've done a great job making that area of the park cater to this crowd. I think replacing it would be a mistake, especially with another inverting coaster.

 

Plus 1.3 million riders is a crap ton of riders, especially when you consider the fact that it's not on early entry and doesn't race when it's not the peak summer season or a busy weekend. The short lines have a lot to do with the ride's insane capacity.

 

Seriously why would anyone want to get rid of Gemeni? Is there anyone on earth that doesn't enjoy that ride?

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