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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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I hate when people say stuff like that (or the "OMG, who even cares about this coaster, look at Raptor!" comments). Everyone knows it's cool to talk about how post-2000 B&M's stand for Boring & Mild, but it's become a farce. It bothers me how much everyone exaggerates how B&M is losing their touch. Fury looks top-10 good, Banshee looks like the best Invert since Katun in 2000 and this easily looks like the best Dive Coaster! (I've also been hearing really positive things about Thunderbird) Have some faith, people.

 

Don't get bothered by it. It's just a sign of any over the top hobbyist. Everything has to be a RMC version of I305 in order to be enjoyable. Trust me, it's a good thing. It makes the line for Diamondback shorter and far less annoying...

 

It's the emo kid who makes sarcastic comments about mainstream music. Try not to upset the nerds.

 

I'm making my partner a roast tomorrow that takes 8 hours, and I'm going to have the Valravn cam pulled up on my iPad on the counter the entire time!

 

I thought I was a complete nerd, thank you for making me feel better about myself.

 

Haha. Slightly nerdy for sure, but there is something incredibly satisfying about following the construction of a coaster leading all the way up to your first ride. I watched Banshee like a hawk when it was constructed. As a person who is not easily excited, I was completely stoked when I took my first ride.

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No action on the construction site today. The giant crane is still sleeping.

Ah the theory of relativity shows itself again...

 

They have filled another foundation and unloaded a bunch of support beams. At the moment, they are pulling another piece of track off a flatbed.

 

(Compare this to the arrival of track pieces and ground breaking were the "action" that excited everyone...)

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(Sorry for the double) However, two new track pieces have shown up! They look like parts of a flat turn to me, but obviously I can't tell much from this photo. I was thinking it might be part of the turn after the lift hill, before the first drop. But it doesn't have any of the catwalks, or anything like that on it.

 

Any guesses as to where on the layout these two pieces go?? (Let the speculation begin!)

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Hmmm?

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The Sports Complex is being built on the old airport by the entrance to the Chaussee.

 

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http://www.sanduskyregister.com/Business/2015/05/14/Update-4-50-p-m-Multimillion-dollar-sports-complex-coming-to-Erie-County.html

 

Call it a grand slam game changer for Erie County's economy.

 

Numerous area stakeholders came together Thursday to support a groundbreaking $23.5 million waterfront project creating a youth sports complex at the former Griffing Sandusky Airport site on Cleveland Road (U.S. 6).

 

The agreement came to fruition after months of negotiations among various parties.

 

To understand the deal, the Register conducted several interviews and obtained documents.

 

Here’s what’s known thus far:

 

Q: What is the project?

 

A: In short, a Georgia-based company called The Sports Force came to area officials and voiced their desires to build a youth sports complex.

 

The complex, aiming to provide athletes with a world-class sporting experience on top-notch venues, would cater to various sports — including baseball, softball, soccer and lacrosse — for teams traveling into Erie County.

 

Each field boasts synthetic surfaces. Artificial turf, as opposed to grass, can allow operators to more efficiently clean, drain and transition the field from one sport to another. The surface would also allow teams to play in both spring and fall.

 

Of the 10 fields proposed:

 

• Four offer regulation-sized professional baseball fields that can also host lacrosse and soccer.

 

• Three are capable of hosting adult and youth baseball, softball, soccer, lacrosse and other field sports.

 

• One championship youth baseball and softball field.

 

• One championship soccer and lacrosse field

 

• One field specifically for people with disabilities.

 

Plans also call for a playground, batting cages, concessions stands, a pavilion, entertainment venue along with public nature and birding trails throughout the site.

 

Developers can expand the site, if necessary, by an additional 26 acres.

 

Q: When could this complex debut?

 

A: It’s expected construction could start this fall and wrap up by mid-2016, allowing teams to play by then.

 

Q: How is this project being funded?

 

A: Primarily through private investment and tax money mainly generated by tourists — and not locals.

 

A breakdown of the $23.5 million project:

 

• $3.5 million from Cedar Fair buying the former Griffing Airport site and contributing it to the project.

 

• $3 million from The Sports Force, the complex’s operator.

 

• $17 million from raising the countywide bed tax — also called the hotel-motel or lodging tax — rate by 1 percent.

 

On Thursday, all three county commissioners — Tom Ferrell, Bill Monaghan and Pat Shenigo — and Lake Erie Shores & Islands board members asked the state legislature to allow for a 1 percent bed tax increase to greatly subsidize this complex.

 

It’s not known if or when Erie County will receive the authority to proceed with raising the rate.

 

At 2 percent, Erie County might be the only county in Ohio charging less than a 3 percent rate, the maximum allowed in the state without receiving special authority.

 

The deal won't happen unless the state legislature allows for the hike.

 

Q: How much are local taxpayers spending on the complex?

 

A: No money from the budgets of Erie County, Sandusky or any other local municipality will subsidize the project.

 

Q: Why is Cedar Fair buying the land and then contributing it to the project overseen by another private entity?

 

A: Cedar Fair vice president of community relations Lee Alexakos provided this response:

 

“Basically our role is that we are going to purchase the former Griffing Airport site, and we saw that as an opportunity to bring development to the area. At the same time, we also saw it as an opportunity to preserve a waterfront asset for the public, and it will bring new recreational benefits to our local residents. Our relationship with the project is to really act as a catalyst for economic development.”

 

Q: What are the benefits to this deal?

 

A: Several years ago, Lake Erie Shores & Islands board members commissioned a study to research the economic benefits of a sports complex in Erie County.

 

They believed a sports complex could attract more people to area hotels — and thus an economic boom — in spring and fall, times when area lodges typically underperform.

 

Among some estimated figures, released by The Sports Force, of how the local area would perform by 2020:

 

• $57 million: in additional annual income throughout the county, broken down by lodging ($15.8 million); entertainment ($10 million); food and beverage ($9.6 million); event-related expenses ($8.4 million); transportation ($5.1 million); shopping ($3.5 million); and other windfalls ($4.5 million).

 

• $1.7 million: in additional annual income through the admissions and bed taxes.

 

• 111,000: in additional annual visitors specifically coming to the complex.

 

• 80,000: in additional annual hotel stays, especially during the spring and fall seasons. Right now, there are about 800,000 hotel stays a year in Erie County.

 

• 900: in new jobs related to the complex’s existence. This includes work at restaurants, hotels and sports complex employees.

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Q: Why is Cedar Fair buying the land and then contributing it to the project overseen by another private entity?

 

A: Cedar Fair vice president of community relations Lee Alexakos provided this response:

 

“Basically our role is that we are going to purchase the former Griffing Airport site, and we saw that as an opportunity to bring development to the area. At the same time, we also saw it as an opportunity to preserve a waterfront asset for the public, and it will bring new recreational benefits to our local residents. Our relationship with the project is to really act as a catalyst for economic development.”

 

 

 

The parks way of saying they want more money.

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They are doing a lot of prep today. I feel like something put them into high gear.

I know parts of the midwest are supposed to receive stupid-warm temps for at least the next week (in the Chicagoland area, it's like open the gates and run some roller coasters stupid-warm). I assume that will make it's way over to northern-Ohio, as well.

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Q: Why is Cedar Fair buying the land and then contributing it to the project overseen by another private entity?

 

A: Cedar Fair vice president of community relations Lee Alexakos provided this response:

 

“Basically our role is that we are going to purchase the former Griffing Airport site, and we saw that as an opportunity to bring development to the area. At the same time, we also saw it as an opportunity to preserve a waterfront asset for the public, and it will bring new recreational benefits to our local residents. Our relationship with the project is to really act as a catalyst for economic development.”

 

 

 

The parks way of saying they want more money.

 

Yes. And the sports fields provide the potential for that by giving Ohio/Michigan/Indiana based amateur athletics a place to ply their trades for tournaments, camps, things like that, and then Cedar Point provides them the incentive of a fun thing to do in addition to those. Basically a slightly lower rent version of how Disney operates Wide World of Sports to bring in the traffic of cheerleading competitions and youth football.

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They are doing a lot of prep today. I feel like something put them into high gear.

I know parts of the midwest are supposed to receive stupid-warm temps for at least the next week (in the Chicagoland area, it's like open the gates and run some roller coasters stupid-warm). I assume that will make it's way over to northern-Ohio, as well.

 

El Nino year. If you're building a ride north of the Mason-Dixon, you can't claim bad weather kept you from finishing it on time this winter. I won't be surprised if Valravn is all bolted together before February.

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Is that a really short support piece, or something else? Whatever it is, looks like it's attached to a footer...

 

That's been there since the very beginning, I thought it was a porta-potty for the construction workers or something. It was there before any other supports were placed.

 

Then again, I could be wrong. It could be the base of a support.

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