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If you don't have a pass/membership purchased yet, you'll have to do both at SFMM as it will be the first park you visit. If you already have an active SFA pass and want to add on dining, you will have a hell of a time getting it on your SFA pass at SFMM. All attempts to do this I have read in the past you either flat out couldn't do it, or it took hours at guest services to work something out. Things might have changed in the last year but since the passes are at different price points for each region they purposely make you activate at your home park so everyone doesn't just buy an SFA pass without going there. Unlike Cedar Fair which charges the same amount at all of the parks for their Platinum pass

 

LOL at the unambitious GP who won't fly across the country just to scan in a pass for a cheaper rate.

 

I used to spend Christmas in Mexico City. Wed buy our annual passes for the year at around 45% cheaper than what was charged at MM.

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Nobody should plan or expect to ride this until October. Don’t psych yourself out and maybe you’ll be pleasantly surprised if you end up getting on it mid September.

 

I don't know about that. It's only February. I have a feeling once the track pieces arrive the whole thing will go up rather quickly. If they're starting to put in footers this week, that means supports and track is likely on the way.

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did y'all see MM guest star on Hell's Kitchen on the finale Friday?

 

Ramsey "closed down the park" to allow the two finalists (and their families) to have the park to themselves and ride the 19 roller coasters!!! (LOL..but then the only one they showed was "viper").

 

Ariel and Mia - the two finalists - went on and on about how they love roller coasters, and are enthusiasts. . . and got "excited and scared" when they were told they would be the 1st two of the general public allowed to ride the brand new coaster "Full Throttle"

 

 

yeah.

 

 

wonder how long ago they filmed this? tho, it looked like the coaster had been open for a long while, so more likely Ariel and Mia like roller coasters, but just aren't enthusiasts, and had no idea how long the ride has been open.

 

no worries regardless, as they didn't get to ride, it turned out that once they went behind the "construction walls" it was a cooking challenge in the entrance plaza of the ride, as the coaster zoomed overhead.

 

 

so it was laughable, but I guess good exposure for SFMM

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Clean the park a bit and make it a little nicer looking, like it was eons ago. Make it a more user-friendly park.

You'll be pleased to hear that that's exactly what they're doing! The area where the new ride is going is one of last dumpiest spots of the park, and it's getting a full cleanup and retheme with a new ride. I'm not sure it was that nice-looking eons ago though!

 

I don't know about that. It's only February. I have a feeling once the track pieces arrive the whole thing will go up rather quickly. If they're starting to put in footers this week, that means supports and track is likely on the way.

Agreed. I know that moaning about SFMM is de rigeur because reasons, but I can't imagine it'll take long to put this one together. This isn't a particularly big ride; it's really just a single oval structure with two low-to-the-ground tracks. I assume both tracks will take advantage of the same support structure, and the most knotted section (the helix over the go-karts) looks like it'll be one clump of track.

 

One concern I have about the go-kart section, though, is if coaster will linger amidst petrol fumes. The go-karts stink, and the renders make it look like the new ride is going to meander over the go-kart track for a good few seconds. Maybe the trains will be moving too fast? Maybe fume inhalation will be considered part of the "racing experience"?

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Lmao, it's not even raining (yet) and the park just posted on Twitter that it will be closed today. They should just give up on the whole 365 thing and go back to weekends only.

 

Knott's will probably close too (or at least close early). I feel like you're making quite the leap there.

 

Edit: Actually their forecast is marginally better so they may not. Still, they close for rain all the time. It's supposed to rain all day at Magic Mountain. I don't blame them at all.

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Lmao, it's not even raining (yet) and the park just posted on Twitter that it will be closed today. They should just give up on the whole 365 thing and go back to weekends only.

 

Valencia is supposed to get heavy rainfall today and tomorrow, so I don't fault the park at all for closing down. If anything, they should be commended for getting the notification out so early.

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^&^^Yeah, but I think the joke is that even when the park was weekends only during the off season they would close ALL THE TIME due to some light sprinkles or cold weather. Having the park now open 365 with rides down and randomly closing all the time due to SoCal winter is a bit frustrating for people trying to visit.

 

I don't think anyone was begging for the park to be 365 and it seems like they did better (more rides open) when they weren't.

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^&^^Yeah, but I think the joke is that even when the park was weekends only during the off season they would close ALL THE TIME due to some light sprinkles or cold weather. Having the park now open 365 with rides down and randomly closing all the time due to SoCal winter is a bit frustrating for people trying to visit.

 

I don't think anyone was begging for the park to be 365 and it seems like they did better (more rides open) when they weren't.

 

I get the impression that when the Six Flags executives got together at their meetings a few years ago, there a big consensus and a big park to have their parks stay open for more days throughout the year. SFMM is going 365, and the northern parks are staying open into December now. They figure that the costs to operate the parks are relatively low, and the big costs are the fixed costs (the rides, real estate costs, financing costs, salaries, etc.). Same reason that movie theaters are open 365, and open in the morning when they're dead most of the time other than Friday nights and Saturdays. So even if a park is dead, its still probably making money, as most of the costs are fixed.

 

Personally, I think from a customer relations standpoint -- especially if a park expects tourists -- its nice to be able continuously from the opening to day to closing day as much as possible. Not everybody is great at checking the operating schedule, and if you're only open weekends, guests have no choice but to go on very busy days.

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^ hourly employees (a large % of those working at the park during an operating day), don't get paid if the park is not open Mon-Fri. So that's certainly not a fixed cost that doesn't matter if the park if open or closed.

 

 

what a weird statement about not everyone checks operating schedule. I'd be shocked if anyone planned a trip to go to a park (even if just the local or home park) and didn't check to make sure they were open that day.

 

in this day and age, where everything is on line? there's no excuse not to check if a place is open before going.

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Lmao, it's not even raining (yet) and the park just posted on Twitter that it will be closed today. They should just give up on the whole 365 thing and go back to weekends only.

Magic Mountain didn't need to be open 365, but it needed to be open more than Saturday and Sunday (Thurs-Sun at least) in the off season so I'm glad they are aiming for 365, even if it ends up being 355 this year. It's been raining much more than normal this year so far and a lot of it has been heavy rain and that's no fun for park goers as the only thing they would enjoy is Justice League. Disneyland and USH are a lot better parks to go to on rainy days since they have a lot of indoor rides but Magic Mountain is an outdoor rides park.

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I'd much rather have SFMM plan on being open 365 days and close when there's heavy rain, than have them only open on weekends rain or shine. It sucks for out-of-towners who can't visit the park because of rain, but that issue isn't exclusive to SFMM. Plenty of people have had weather-related closures put a damper on their coaster trips to other parks. And like Andrew said, there isn't much to do at SFMM that isn't outside, so when it's dumping rain outside, most people wouldn't go to this park. Closing the park for the day is a no-brainer.

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One of the reasons to go 365 was because you get better employees.

 

Temporary employees are a PITA. You are constantly hiring and training, and because they all know the job is temporary, the folks who are on a longer horizon are looking to get out quickly.

 

This is further complicated when you want to close in September, then open for Halloween, then close for November, then open for Holiday in the park.

 

If you can promise someone a full-time job, youre going to get better candidates and less turnover.

 

Of course, there are still some advantages for temporary jobs. You have a lot more labor available in the summer when the kids are out of school and need cash. But again, if you want to open during the school year, youre in trouble once your kids all quit on September 1st or whatever.

 

 

what a weird statement about not everyone checks operating schedule. I'd be shocked if anyone planned a trip to go to a park (even if just the local or home park) and didn't check to make sure they were open that day.

 

I think the point being made is that tourists might be in LA for a week, and then on Monday say "lets go to Six Flags Wednesday, itll be empty". They look up the hours and woops, its not open until Saturday when they cant make it anymore.

 

So people obviously check the hours, but are less likely to check the days they are open. I know as a tourist, Ive made the mistake where I planned to visit X attraction on a Tuesday, and when I check the website it turns out they dont open Tuesdays, but Ive already planned other stuff on Monday and Wednesday so Im out of luck.

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Went today 2/15/2019 (will be yesterday by the time I post this). Light drizzle most of the day with only a few moments without any rain. The member’s Valentine event was rescheduled to today since they did not open due to rain on 2/14. Members could get in an hour before the general public for character meet and greets, exclusive ride time on FT, Rev, and the carousel. We planned to go early, but the day before we decided it wouldn’t be worth it given that it would not be busy at all so we slept in and got there right before noon. Lots of characters out early in the day. We got Valentine's Day buttons. No one seemed to have much more information regarding member appreciation day. They had $2.14 heart shaped funnel cakes that were cute and Instagram worthy, but kind of small and 1 per member. The buy one get one free carnival games advertised as part of member appreciation day was only 1 game that I saw (break the plates). Apparently there was also free engraving at the Glass Shop, but we didn’t stop in.

 

This was my first time at Magic Mountain in the rain and I was impressed. Every ride scheduled to be open was open with many running multiple trains despite light crowds. I was also surprised how many restaurants were open. I wonder if they were trying to give their employees hours after being closed for so many days this month. We walked by Carlini’s Pizza all the way in the back corner of the park about half an hour before closing and it was open and had a short line. A comparatively light crowd at a Disney park would have a lot more food service closures (well, maybe not the OLC parks). Lots of stores were closed though. Employees were generally nice; some allowed use to reride when there was no line and some made us go back through the queue. Also saw several tour groups, both American and international. Being open 365 days probably helps them book more such groups.

 

For fans of carnival games, they have a new play pass where you pay for $20 worth of tickets (each ticket is equal to $1 so you would redeem 5 tickets to play a game that costs $5). On top of the $20 you receive 4 free games tickets for 4 pre-selected games, 2 buy one get one free coupons, and 500 reward points. They advertise it as a $50 value for $20, but to get the full value you would have to do the buy one get one free so it would be more like a $50 value for $40. Also note that the free games are split between Boardwalk and Mining Town. After we bought our passes, we were told that Mining Town was closed and they allowed us to use all our tickets in Boardwalk. Apparently this is a new promotion and we were rang up incorrectly 3 times before we got our passes. From what we were told, several of the employees working the games were new. We had to have them call supervisors over a few times, because a couple of them weren’t following the posted rules. I’m a little surprised they decided to do these tickets instead of a card system like Disney and Knott’s. Most of the employees were really great though.

 

Definitely could have hit every open coaster today, but our group split up as we had different priorities. One faction focused on riding TC as many times as possible. Another decided to pick up credits in Bugs Bunny World since it was empty and there wasn’t the shame of being the only adults on a kiddie coaster. I personally made it my mission to do stuff I either hadn’t done in awhile or had never done before. In hindsight, I wish I had joined the group trying to “ride it all” since it would have been interesting to try each ride in the rain.

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One of the reasons to go 365 was because you get better employees.

 

Temporary employees are a PITA. You are constantly hiring and training, and because they all know the job is temporary, the folks who are on a longer horizon are looking to get out quickly.

 

This is further complicated when you want to close in September, then open for Halloween, then close for November, then open for Holiday in the park.

 

If you can promise someone a full-time job, youre going to get better candidates and less turnover.

 

Of course, there are still some advantages for temporary jobs. You have a lot more labor available in the summer when the kids are out of school and need cash. But again, if you want to open during the school year, youre in trouble once your kids all quit on September 1st or whatever.

 

 

what a weird statement about not everyone checks operating schedule. I'd be shocked if anyone planned a trip to go to a park (even if just the local or home park) and didn't check to make sure they were open that day.

 

I think the point being made is that tourists might be in LA for a week, and then on Monday say "lets go to Six Flags Wednesday, itll be empty". They look up the hours and woops, its not open until Saturday when they cant make it anymore.

 

So people obviously check the hours, but are less likely to check the days they are open. I know as a tourist, Ive made the mistake where I planned to visit X attraction on a Tuesday, and when I check the website it turns out they dont open Tuesdays, but Ive already planned other stuff on Monday and Wednesday so Im out of luck.

 

They still aren't going to get quality employees because they pay minimum wage with no real benefits.

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