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But if they kept both lift hills, they could have the first section be the original layout and the second half RMC godliness like a cork-skrew around the original track. Then you get the best of both worlds. They could also put a sensor on the second lift that would start the lift once the next dispatched train hits the first hill so you'd get the racing element of the coaster ... twice, once on the original track and then once on the crazy track.

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I heard an interesting rumor regarding Colossus. Sound like it's going to get the RMC treatment in the future. This probably will be delayed with the incident on NTAG in Dallas. The new twist I heard today was both sides of Colossus would be combined to make the largest woodie anywhere. They normally don't run both sides at the same time, and the combination would make a ride approaching 6 minutes in length. Again, just a rumor and definitely an interesting one...

 

I've heard this one before and knowing SFMM I would not be surprised if they did this. However, if Colossus was made into one super long coaster I would hope that either the ride is configured to race (and the park operates it that way) or both tracks were significantly different, as doing the same thing twice would be repetitive and somewhat pointless (unless the ride is very, very good). I could also see the park converting the coaster into a non-racer by re-doing one track and completely removing the other, as that would be the cheapest option, but I hope they don't as I think that would do more damage to Colossus than the shoulder harnesses did to Revolution. Either way, we probably won't know until well into next year as Iron Colossus would be ready for 2015 at the earliest.

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I was at the Mountain today. Several rides with 1 train operation: Scream, Goliath, Batman that I noticed.

 

I heard an interesting rumor regarding Colossus. Sound like it's going to get the RMC treatment in the future. This probably will be delayed with the incident on NTAG in Dallas. The new twist I heard today was both sides of Colossus would be combined to make the largest woodie anywhere. They normally don't run both sides at the same time, and the combination would make a ride approaching 6 minutes in length. Again, just a rumor and definitely an interesting one...

 

This goes hand in hand with what Screamscape posted way back in April:

Stay tuned as we try to keep up to date on what could be the most important new coaster to ever open at ‘The Mountain’ that could create an all time new world record for the park that may never be broken.
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^ Yeah I would imagine the publicity of restoring one of the most iconic coasters ever built would be too much to pass up.

 

Though I also agree that the way SFMM does things is sometimes beyond off putting.

 

 

I'm not so sure I would consider Colossus iconic. The Coney Island Cyclone is iconic. Most people outside of LA probably don't even know the ride exists. You could probably tell them it was featured in Vacation or the Step by Step opening, and then they'd say "oh yeah...," but I don't think that counts as iconic.

 

However, more to the point of the discussion: I wouldn't count on the RMC makeover unless the contract was already signed. The NTAG incident is sure to put a strain on their business relationship, since I am sure both sides (well, their insurance companies & lawyers) will be haggling over who is responsible and pays out what.

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I was at the Mountain today. Several rides with 1 train operation: Scream, Goliath, Batman that I noticed.

 

I heard an interesting rumor regarding Colossus. Sound like it's going to get the RMC treatment in the future. This probably will be delayed with the incident on NTAG in Dallas. The new twist I heard today was both sides of Colossus would be combined to make the largest woodie anywhere. They normally don't run both sides at the same time, and the combination would make a ride approaching 6 minutes in length. Again, just a rumor and definitely an interesting one...

 

This goes hand in hand with what Screamscape posted way back in April:

Stay tuned as we try to keep up to date on what could be the most important new coaster to ever open at ‘The Mountain’ that could create an all time new world record for the park that may never be broken.

 

Hey maybe it'll be that longest coaster that was originally rumored for FullThrottle!

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I don't think the issue with Iron Colossus would be with RMC, it would be with the trains. They could easily have another company design the trains like they did with Outlaw Run.

 

I still say they should do one side original colossus and the other crazy. If that's one track with 2 lift hills, so be it.

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Maybe it's me, but I have a bit of a hard time believing that RMC will be able to tolerate how SFMM does business.

 

I'm talking about how SFMM does its budgeting, bizarre marketing, and generally piss-poor operations. SFOT and SFFT are zero indication of how SFMM runs those aspects of their park.

 

As long as RMC is paid, I highly doubt that they care how the park operates or markets. RMC is a business and they're objective is to make money. If a park is willing to pay, they are going to be willing to do the work.

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I could see them combining the tracks into one coaster, however with modifications that would keep it from lasting a full 6 minutes. What I would imagine happening is a highly modified "second" track that eliminates the lift hill. I just can't see a ride being built with a double lift hill (yeah I know that SFMM has two rides with double lift hills).

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I hope they give the Colossus the Rocky Mountain treatment, that would be awesome. It would be even more awesome if both sides of the track were connected to one ride with a station fly through for the second lap, but I doubt that would happen. and if it did it would probably be more like 4 minutes long, which is still good.

 

^Regarding rides at SFMM that have two lift hills, Gold Rusher is one, what is the other one?

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^Regarding rides at SFMM that have two lift hills, Gold Rusher is one, what is the other one?

 

Ninja, right?

 

Oh yeah! I totally forgot about Ninja. The second lift hill is at the end of the ride with no more elements afterward so I don't think much about it. Ninja is one of those rides where if after the second lift hill there was another part of the ride it could be so much better but I understand due to the terrain the second lift hill is needed. Ninja kind of reminds of Pirates of the Caribbean at Disneyland where the long lift hill is at the end of the ride and then there's the loading station.

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I was at the Mountain today. Several rides with 1 train operation: Scream, Goliath, Batman that I noticed.

 

I heard an interesting rumor regarding Colossus. Sound like it's going to get the RMC treatment in the future. This probably will be delayed with the incident on NTAG in Dallas. The new twist I heard today was both sides of Colossus would be combined to make the largest woodie anywhere. They normally don't run both sides at the same time, and the combination would make a ride approaching 6 minutes in length. Again, just a rumor and definitely an interesting one...

 

It would be GREAT if it has good airtime haha. That's one thing that did disappoint me about the park's coaster selection - lack of airtime. Apart from Apocalypse and parts of Colossus and the one airtime hill on Goliath (and Full Throttle apparently), there is no good airtime at the park. I guess Viper does have a decent moment of ejector airtime before the MCBR... It's sad that the park has so little airtime that I have to resort to claiming Viper for it's one brief moment of airtime!

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The day we have all been expecting has come! One train operation on Full Throttle!!!!!

 

So this morning as the park opened the ride was closed and it looked like they were having a problem with one or both of the trains. I went and rode other rides (with no wait) and around noon I walked back to YOLO plaza. One train was running normally and the other train was on the transfer (with NOBODY working on it or trying to fix it). The queue under the canopy (still not done yet) was full and they were advertising a 90-120 minute wait. I guess when they figured out that one train wasn't working properly that it opening with one train would be better than nothing.

 

Good news is that Goliath had 2 trains running (but the 3rd train was nowhere to be found in the area).

 

So yeah, they made it a little over a month before what we all knew was going to happen happened.

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The day we have all been expecting has come! One train operation on YOLOcoaster!!!!!

 

So this morning as the park opened the ride was closed and it looked like they were having a problem with one or both of the trains. I went and rode other rides (with no wait) and around noon I walked back to YOLO plaza. One train was running normally and the other train was on the transfer (with NOBODY working on it or trying to fix it). The queue under the canopy (still not done yet) was full and they were advertising a 90-120 minute wait. I guess when they figured out that one train wasn't working properly that it opening with one train would be better than nothing.

 

Good news is that Goliath had 2 trains running (but the 3rd train was nowhere to be found in the area).

 

So yeah, they made it a little over a month before what we all knew was going to happen happened.

There was a problem with a specific part on the train. The other one will eventually go on the transfer track for a day or two here soon to get a replacement part.

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