bkwjjm Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 I am going to the park on October 12. Looking forward to seeing the progress on Lightning Rod. Will try to get pictures.
KBrylczyk Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Omg. I have never been so excited to see wood getting erected. It looks amazing!!! SEX JOKE
thedlr Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Thanks for the photos, WildEagle2014. The dip between the twin summits is more pronounced than I thought. I'm wondering if they are truly "twin" summits in that they are identical in height.
CP Maverick Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 I can't imagine, for safety reasons, that they would make the peaks identical height due to the risk of valley should the power be cut as the train reaches the first peak. But I could also be wrong.
KBrylczyk Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 I can't imagine, for safety reasons...should the power be cut... By that logic no ride should ever be built anywhere ever.
TyRush Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 ^Seems like you should put your baby in a barrel!
CP Maverick Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 I can't imagine, for safety reasons...should the power be cut... By that logic no ride should ever be built anywhere ever. What? By that logic, a gravity powered ride will continue and stop at a safe point if the power fails. You know, instead of valleying in an unsafe location.
KBrylczyk Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 ^ Except for the numerous Boomerangs that have valleyed in the cobra roll, or The Chiller's Robin side that valleyed in the cobra roll. Or a bunch of others that have valleyed in places that aren't easily accessible. Yeah, many have catwalks now but Chiller didn't have one when it first valleyed. They built it after the fact. Also how would it be an "unsafe" location if it valleyed up there? The train is upright and the passengers are secured by the restraints. The only way it'd be safer is if it were to get stuck on the brake run.
CP Maverick Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 The difference is being designed to valley at a certain point and poor engineering that doesn't account for those situations.
KingRCT3 Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Those in your exemple are shuttles, it's normal that their "peaks" are symmetrical, as the train travels through them both forward and backward. Here, as it is a closed circuit, it would be more logical to have a small height difference.
kcurry11 Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 The friction coefficient is what will determine the height difference. The kinetic energy that is created between the two hills will keep the train going. In theory, because the train is traveling such a short distance, both vertically and horizontally, between the two hills (much smaller then between two full sized hills), the kinetic energy transferred into heat energy (friction) is much less. This will allow the height differential between the two hills to be much less, creating the most potential energy to be transferred back into kinetic energy to give the train it's full speed. Also, I am sure the RMC engineers and Alan Schilke have done all the math hundreds of times to prevent something stupid like a valley on the first drop...
shadox17 Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 Just found this picture on Facebook! Lifthill!!! Photo creds: https://www.facebook.com/BPARCS?fref=nf
KingRCT3 Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 That's some minimalistic supports over here.
mordecai-75 Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 ^ i agree, it doesn't look like enough to handle launching.
TB305 Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 ^ i agree, it doesn't look like enough to handle launching. You're right. RMC has no idea what they're doing! This kind of stuff was said about Outlaw Run before it opened, and would you look at that, the supports are still going strong!
KingRCT3 Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 Of course it's enough, don't worry mordecai-75. By the way, looking at the radius at the bottom of the lift/launch which is unusually large, I think we might be launched on the flat part and then carry on on the incline, unlike Hulk for instance where you climb slowly and then woooosh.
horootle Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 By the way, looking at the radius at the bottom of the lift/launch which is unusually large, I think we might be launched on the flat part and then carry on on the incline, unlike Hulk for instance where you climb slowly and then woooosh. This is a joke right???
TyRush Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) ^^Or there will be a block brake at the bottom on the flat part, and then it'll take off up the hill. There is no way it will launch before the hill Edited September 30, 2015 by TyRush
Intimidated305 Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 ^^Or there will be a block brake and the bottom on the flat part there and then it'll take off up the hill. There is no way it will launch before the hill Finally someone is using common sense! No offense people, but RMC knows what they're doing. Just chill out, it will turn out great.
RollerManic Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I think he meant ala Maveshark, eg. it accelerates you into the pullout to start the lift.
scbt Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 ^ i agree, it doesn't look like enough to handle launching. Really? There's going to be very limited forces on the support structure (no laterals) and its practically on the ground so they don't need extra support structure.
Coaster Hero Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 I think he means something like Maverick, where you start accelerating before the incline, then once the train is on the incline full acceleration takes place.
mordecai-75 Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 ^ i agree, it doesn't look like enough to handle launching. You're right. RMC has no idea what they're doing! This kind of stuff was said about Outlaw Run before it opened, and would you look at that, the supports are still going strong! I was never implying that RMC didn't know what they are doing, I was simply making an observation of my opinion of the supports. I'm certain that month's of development went into this design, ( if not year's ), but that still doesn't make the supports look any more special than what you would use to build a porch, because that's what they look like.
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