Marney Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Does the rider have to be completely upside down for an element to count as an inversion, or does an element such as a heavily overbanked turn count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamj2543 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Close to upside down within 10 or 20 degrees. A tilt incline loop like on rougarou would probably be the limit. On both our B&Ms at Canadas Wonderland it is about 10-30 degrees off being sideways, but I don't count it being inverted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradocoasterguy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Does the rider have to be completely upside down for an element to count as an inversion, or does an element such as a heavily overbanked turn count? The rider must at some point be rotated 90 degrees. Close to upside down within 10 or 20 degrees. A tilt incline loop like on rougarou would probably be the limit. On both our B&Ms at Canadas Wonderland it is about 10-30 degrees off being sideways, but I don't count it being inverted. The tilted loop would count because the rider was rotated 90 degrees from their previous position. Edited April 18, 2016 by coloradocoasterguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry M Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 ^so Saw and other eurofighter coasters, their drop is an inversion. An inversion is when it feels like one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 135 degrees banking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradocoasterguy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 ^so Saw and other eurofighter coasters, their drop is an inversion. An inversion is when it feels like one. Stupid auto-correct. 180 not 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1ngdaKa88 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Actually I'd say it is when your head is lower than the rest of the body, because the up side (Head) is down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneH Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 135 degrees banking. Yes this because it is 3/4 the way to a full 180 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 135 degrees banking. That's probably the best option for a "definition" of inversion, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnumFreak25 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Its always annoyed me that barrel rolls on flying coasters are considered an inversion. Your never upside down at any point during them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDG Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 [attachment=0]bankinver.gif[/attachment] Yes / end thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanthonyam Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 when your feet go above your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I don't know if I have the energy to be quite this nerdy today so I'm just here to say that inclined loops are stupid and they're not inversions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradocoasterguy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Its always annoyed me that barrel rolls on flying coasters are considered an inversion. Your never upside down at any point during them. How not? The body is rotated 180 degrees relative to it's position. You were facing down, then you were facing up. Inversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippindotsguy8 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I think the best definition as someone said a page back is "if it feels like one", for the same reason most people don't consider Disko's and Larson Loopers to be "real" coasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) *Double post* Edited April 19, 2016 by Password121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 135 degrees banking. Came to post exactly this but you've got it. Exactly halfway between sideways and completely inverted. Outlaw Run's first turn (153 degrees) is an inversion, but Millennium Force's first turn (122 degrees) is not. If you watch some '99 MF promos (which are so worth watching on repeat) you'll see it claim a world record as the "steepest non-inverted turn." They had that down 17 years ago. Edit... when your feet go above your head. I don't mean to nerd out too much as coasterbill was mentioning but this would classify Fury's 91 degree overbanked turnaround as an inversion since technically the plane you sit on is beyond horizontal. I don't think anyone's out there arguing this is an inversion, so I'd disagree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 [attachment=0]bankinver.gif[/attachment] Judging from this, it seems like that one overbank on KBF's Silver Bullet is either a little bit below or just hits the threshold between overbank and inversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradocoasterguy Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 [attachment=0]bankinver.gif[/attachment] Judging from this, it seems like that one overbank on KBF's Silver Bullet is either a little bit below or just hits the threshold between overbank and inversion. It is very close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I305forever Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 When you go upside down. Dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 When you go upside down. Dumbass. I really hope this is a joke because this is probably the most ignorant post I've seen in at least a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillseeker4552 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 When you go upside down. Dumbass. Maybe I didn't catch the humor, but I find this post completely unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradocoasterguy Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 When you go upside down. Dumbass. That is the very question originally posited in this very post. What constitutes upside down? Mutemule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 This. . . This is when an element becomes an inversion. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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