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^ I see no reason to complain. The only problems could possibly foresee people complaining about is if they raise the park ticket price. Taking something that was a separate paid attraction for the company and combining it with another separate paid park, in many ways looks like your are losing money not raising the ticket prices. You would think from a business standpoint, the logical thing to do would be to raise prices to offset the lose in revenue that comes from making it one park. Not to mention the amount of money that goes into feeding, housing, providing medical care, and so much more for the animals. Of course, I hope the ticket prices stay the same, and this is just me saying "what if", but I certainly wouldn't be overly surprised if they desided to.

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^ I see no reason to complain. The only problems could possibly foresee people complaining about is if they raise the park ticket price. Taking something that was a separate paid attraction for the company and combining it with another separate paid park, in many ways looks like your are losing money not raising the ticket prices. You would think from a business standpoint, the logical thing to do would be to raise prices to offset the lose in revenue that comes from making it one park. Not to mention the amount of money that goes into feeding, housing, providing medical care, and so much more for the animals. Of course, I hope the ticket prices stay the same, and this is just me saying "what if", but I certainly wouldn't be overly surprised if they desided to.

I could see there being complaints about how you now have to buy admission to the park to access the Safari, but those comments will most likely be made by GP who always try to find something to complain about.

From the way they're sounding, they plan on constructing a whole new entrance with a path goin over to it. If so, sounds like it would fit perfectly either near Bizarro or have it run parallel to El Toro next to that pond/swamp.

Having only did the safari once, this really is effective at getting me to go back and try this out next year, especially the new zip-line. My question is what are they going to do with the old entrance and the few buildings next to it?

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It's making big news even here in Chicago that NJ will be the world's biggest theme park, now Even the clueless neighbors and my parents have brought it to my attention.

 

Six Flags will take it if they can, and run with it. But ... I guess that's what they do. It *WILL* sell more tickets for them, period.

 

Kinda like Great America being the "cleanest theme park in the world" and Hurricane Harbor being the "best water park in the country!" Of course, that potentially opens up a whole discussion on ratings lists, favorites, Golden Tickets, etc, etc, etc...

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So they originally said big, bigger, biggest...did I miss the "big" part? I assume the water park addition and the safari re-do make up the latter two. Is the zip-line the big? I'll actually go through the safari now that it's a ride, although I can't imagine how good it will be. I have zero expectations. At least I can use the zip-line (if it doesn't cost $50).

 

I find it strange SFMM is getting another coaster. I feel like SF ignores a lot of their properties; they ought to just sell a few of the lesser properties to private developers or something.

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I find it strange SFMM is getting another coaster. I feel like SF ignores a lot of their properties; they ought to just sell a few of the lesser properties to private developers or something.

 

I find it strange, too. When you give your park so many additions all in a short matter of time, you kind of saturate the market and don't see the kinds of revenue/attendance increases that you'd want as opposed to if you spaced them out (and had some park rennovations/improvements inbetween).

 

Sometimes I get jealous, then I remember when we got Chiller, Medusa, Nitro, S:UF, KK and El Toro in an 8 year span

 

Well, technically 9, but Chiller didn't fully open until 1998, sooo....

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Great Adventure has a "Premium" Season Pass, which looks to be the same thing as Gold.

 

Not quite- the premium pass includes the NJ Hurricane Harbor but that's pretty much it (every other "benefit" also appears under the normal season pass benefits)- unless you buy 4 you don't even get free parking at Great Adventure. The gold passes at the other parks are including parking at all Six Flags parks.

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We went to the park yesterday and had an amazing time. I went with my girlfriend and my mom which was kind of a nice change. When I was little she always brought me to parks and no doubt is the reason why I love theme parks so much. Even though I've moved out of the house and my girlfriend and I usually go to parks together as a date we try to go with my mom a few times a year and I think everyone had a great time.

 

I'll save everyone the tl;dr trip report and just mention a few positives and negatives.

 

Negatives

 

Bizarro operations: Does anyone remember that show on MTV called Boiling Point where people were given $100.00 for putting up with awful service or obnoxious people for 15 minutes without saying anything? I think the show is coming back next year and all of it will be filmed in the Bizarro queue. I'm a coaster nerd... there's no denying that fact. But when I go to parks with non-coaster nerds I usually keep the nerdiness to a minimum so I didn't say anything about the bad operations. I didn't even have to. As has been the case every time I went to the park this year, everyone in the station was pissed off and complaining.

 

Once they dispatched a train, everyone would walk over to the operator booth and talk until that train was in the brake run. After the train was back, the person at the control booth would pick up the phone and talk to someone in the photo booth. The two girls responsible for checking restraints would then walk over to the railing that swings open if and when a train is ever dispatched and yells down to the girl in the photo booth about something that has nothing to do with the ride or the park.

 

After all of this they would finally start checking restraints. Once they were finished the girls would ask the person at the panel if it was break time yet and he would tell them how many more minutes they had until break. Then they would finally send the train. This happened with every single train. Just for fun my girlfriend started timing them using her watch and dispatch times were usually between 4 and 6 minutes. For some idiotic reason they were running three trains. Bizarro is a great ride and it deserves much better. We waited 35 minutes and the line was only to the bottom of the stairs (probably because people know better than to try to re-ride it because of how slow the line moves).

 

Golden Kingdom: I like Golden Kingdom a lot (even though now it's two separate areas that are only connected if Safari Discoveries is open)and the theming is great but has anyone ever been there at night? There are almost no lights anywhere, not on the stairs exiting Kingda Ka, not on the paths leading to Kingda Ka (there are a few but it's really dark) and I almost feel like the Kingda Ka queue line should be an insurance liability. The huge holding area which takes at least 45 minutes to get through when it's full doesn't have a single light. Unless there's a full moon you can barely see your hand in front of your face. Would it kill them to put a few lights in the queue area before someone gets hurt?

 

Positives

 

Operations: I said my piece about Bizarro but every other ride seemed to be dispatching trains really quickly and was actively trying to fill every seat despite relatively light crowds. Rolling Thunder was racing all day and the El Toro and Nitro crews should be recognized for doing such a great job. They're awesome (and fun).

 

Maintenance and up-time: Every single ride was open yesterday and this is the case almost every time we go to the park. If anyone remembers this park in the late 90's / early 2000's it was notorious for closed rides but this isn't the case anymore. Any time we notice something that's broken there's always a swarm of maintenance people trying to fix it.

 

Friendly Employees: Every single employee we ran into (besides the Bizarro operators) were having fun, interacting with guests and pumping up the crowd. They have quality employees this year (except Bizarro... I feel like I really need to drive this point home).

 

Nitro: At the end of the night everyone went to see the fireworks so Nitro had almost no line. We got off and got back in line three times and only had to wait one or two trains for the back... then after the 3rd and 4th rides they let us switch to an empty row and stay on the train. We had five amazing rides in a row to end the night. Everyone on the trains and in the station was clapping to the Nitro station and music and having a great time, the ops were pumping up the crowd but still dispatching trains at an amazing rate. Thank you Nitro crew for being awesome. Maybe those losers from Bizarro can go on a field trip to Nitro (or El Toro) and learn how to run a ride.

 

As I said at the start of this post, we had a great day. We're really lucky to have a coaster collection like this so close to home (2 1/2 hours with no traffic... 4 hours yesterday). I think El Toro, Nitro, Kingda Ka (if you ride it in the front), Batman (I don't care of it's a clone... clone it 500 more times if you want) and Bizarro are world class coasters and they have a solid collection of flats, water rides and other coasters to compliment them. My mom upgraded her ticket to a season pass and we'll be renewing ours next year for sure. Keep up the great work Six Flags (except the Bizarro crew... you suck).

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^^I agree Bizarro's operations, on Friday night the line was barely out of the station but I still skipped it because I thought it would still be a 20 minute wait (I don't mind a 20 minute wait if the line keeps moving). I wonder if it was the same 2 girls checking restraints that I saw last week. They also stopped to talk about non park stuff in the middle of checking restraints while the trains were double stacking. They might as well save the costs and run 2 trains instead of 3 since they always double stack.

 

I also agree about Kingda Ka's queue and the Golden Kingdom being dark. With the misting fans at night I couldn't even see how long the line was until I got to the end of the line.

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So I lost my iPod on Nitro a few days ago. When I went to the Lost & Found they were closed but they gave me a number to call. I've called every day and nobody answers. Does anyone know if there are certain times when they are open? It seems odd but maybe they have certain hours. Also, if by some reason they do have it (I think it fell out of my pocket when I was getting out of the seat, not during the ride) would I have to go to the park to get it back? Thanks in advance.

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Interesting point about the Golden Kingdom because it brought back memories from last summer. Right before closing at like 9:50 pm I walked over to Kingda Ka to try and get a night ride. When I walked to the area I saw people in the station, but otherwise the entire area was dark and I thought it was closed. I just walked into the entrance to see what the deal was and back there hiding in complete darkness was an attendant who told me it was still open, and I meandered through the empty, dark queue feeling like I was somewhere I wasn't supposed to be.

 

Finally made it to the station though and marathoned the last like 3-4 trains of the day without getting off, pretty cool for a ride like KK

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So I lost my iPod on Nitro a few days ago. When I went to the Lost & Found they were closed but they gave me a number to call. I've called every day and nobody answers. Does anyone know if there are certain times when they are open? It seems odd but maybe they have certain hours. Also, if by some reason they do have it (I think it fell out of my pocket when I was getting out of the seat, not during the ride) would I have to go to the park to get it back? Thanks in advance.

 

Your best chance is going to be showing up in person to clain it. Even if they do have it, the park is not going to send it to you.

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Hey guys, I was just wondering what crowds would be like this weekend at SFGADV and SFNE as we are trying to decide if we should take a day trip to SFNE or a weekend trip to SFGADV and it all depends on crowds and weather (which looks ok in both places) thanks for the advice.

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I find it strange SFMM is getting another coaster. I feel like SF ignores a lot of their properties; they ought to just sell a few of the lesser properties to private developers or something.

 

I find it strange, too. When you give your park so many additions all in a short matter of time, you kind of saturate the market and don't see the kinds of revenue/attendance increases that you'd want as opposed to if you spaced them out (and had some park rennovations/improvements inbetween).

 

Sometimes I get jealous, then I remember when we got Chiller, Medusa, Nitro, S:UF, KK and El Toro in an 8 year span

 

Well, technically 9, but Chiller didn't fully open until 1998, sooo....

 

Long time no see!

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Hey guys, I was just wondering what crowds would be like this weekend at SFGADV and SFNE as we are trying to decide if we should take a day trip to SFNE or a weekend trip to SFGADV and it all depends on crowds and weather (which looks ok in both places) thanks for the advice.

 

I went to Great Adventure the Saturday after Labor Day weekend last year and it wasn't crowded at all. My longest wait was 15 minutes for Nitro.

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After riding Colossos on the Europe trip this summer I decided I must get up SFGAdv and ride El Toro. I'm limited with time but was going to fly up the weekend of Sept 22/23. I'm planning on driving down to the park on the 23rd but need some local experts help:

 

1) I know FrightFest starts on the 22nd... Should I expect crazy crowds? I'm going with Flash Pass regardless just trying to decide if it would be worth getting one of the higher levels.

 

2) What's everyone's thoughts on travel time (driving) from the park to the Newark International Airport...My flight leaves at 8pm. Directions say it is just over a hour drive. Is that true? I figured leaving the park around 5 would get me to the airport shortly after 6 and give me time to return the car and get to the gate (I'm not checking bags).

 

Thanks!

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