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All standups and flyers are the devil's coasters in my opinion. Not the largest fan.

 

Have you ridden the good Flyers? Manta and Tatsu? Because the concept isn't the problem, it's the typically boring execution. Both of these coasters, especially Manta, fix that problem though, and make for a really fun ride experience! I'm more in love with the idea of what a Flying coaster could do, than what most of them have done, but some of the more recent models lead me to believe that parks are starting to get more creative with their layout, and some awesome models are coming!

 

I get that a lot of enthusiasts hate Arrows, but I'd rather see Anaconda stay and have another coaster interact with it. It's a huge lake, and Anaconda doesn't really take up much space of it.

 

I'm with you on this! A Flyer interacting with Anaconda would be even better than taking the old Arrow looper out! I don't recall hating Anaconda when I rode it 13 years ago, which, when it comes to an old Arrow looper, is really a win! So that would place it in my upper echelon for that ride type!

 

Shockwave: Enthusists. Are. Babbies. After all the coasters that I rode this weekend, especially the ones that get hated on for being too rough (Grizzly, Anaconda, Shockwave, Batwing) I have come to beleive that people just like to complain.

 

Actually, this isn't an "enthusiast" issue. If anything, enthusiasts are going to be more tolerant of rough, or unusual coasters, such as Shockwave. The non-enthusiasts are much more practical when it comes to coasters. You ride it. You get off. Either you liked it, or you didn't. Either it was rough for you, or it wasn't. There is no factoring it against other coasters of its type, or various manufacturers. There is no comparing it with other enthusiasts' opinions to determine whether it's overrated or underrated.

 

My wife enjoys riding roller coasters, but not at all to the extent I do. She is definitely still firmly in the "GP" category. When she rode Shockwave 13 years ago, she didn't like it, and found it rough. It's not because she's a baby. It's because Shockwave is rough. Period. There's a reason it's getting removed, and it's not because the "babyish" enthusiasts didn't like its alleged roughness. It's because it's an older, rougher coaster, and wasn't getting the ridership numbers that CF and KD felt justified its continued existence. Sure, it's packing a line now, but that's because it's getting removed, and people, including the non-enthusiasts who may not have even liked the ride, are getting their final rides in. I'm sure Mantis experienced the same thing a year ago after it was announced that it getting "removed."

 

To cite a personal example, I loved Drachen Fire. I wish it was still around, as I thought it was an awesome coaster experience! However, I clearly overlooked its deficiencies to come to that conclusion, as its roughness was too extreme for many people, apparently, and BGW made the decision to remove it. And it wasn't because the small subset of the population known as roller coaster enthusiasts, who are normally more tolerant of coaster roughness to begin with, thought it was too rough. It's because the GP thought it was too rough, and they received many complaints.

 

Look, I'm not saying enthusiasts can't be "babies" about things. They most certainly can (and frequently, are!) However, this issue of thinking Shockwave was rough, and good riddance to it, is not one of those times. It's great you, and some others here and there, enjoyed the ride, and think it shouldn't be removed. That's your personal opinion, and prerogative! Heck, I still feel the same way about Drachen Fire! But you (and I) are the exception, not the rule, and those who see it differently aren't "babies" because of disagreeing any more than all of those people who couldn't handle Drachen Fire are babies.

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Wait, there is actually going to be a safari-themed ride in Safari Village? Is that allowed? 🤣

My money, in all seriousness, is on Tiki Twirl.  CF already has a logo drawn up and everything.

He has a lot more history with Kings Dominion than just 2 years. You also forgot that Carnival and Winterfest also came in under him (I know they aren't rides, but I feel they are big improvements for

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Some of these "this proves a coaster for [insert year here]" posts are getting to be more ridiculous than those Illuminati confirmed joke videos on YouTube.

 

Says the guy who told everyone that we were getting a new coaster because of an artists mistake in a KD website banner, then said it was your grand discovery and anyone else talking about it must credit you.

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Some of these "this proves a coaster for [insert year here]" posts are getting to be more ridiculous than those Illuminati confirmed joke videos on YouTube.

 

You're right, we don't need a new coaster. We can keep getting screwed over while other parks like Cedar point, kings island, carowinds, and canada wonderland gets all the love while we're stuck with for minor improvements for the next 50+ years

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Some of these "this proves a coaster for [insert year here]" posts are getting to be more ridiculous than those Illuminati confirmed joke videos on YouTube.

 

You're right, we don't need a new coaster. We can keep getting screwed over while other parks like Cedar point, kings island, carowinds, and canada wonderland gets all the love while we're stuck with for minor improvements for the next 50+ years

 

Look at what KD has got since 2008 compared to VF, Dorney, MIA, and WOF

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1818171801_07-29-15KDBrewfestlogo.jpg.e142c018c34916bee7ddfc6dd3c0619d.jpgAnother food festival at Kings Dominion!

 

Inaugural BBQ & Brew Festival at Kings Dominion

Local breweries join forces with Kings Dominion for food, drinks and fun!

 

Doswell, VA (July 28, 2015) – Get your taste buds ready for Kings Dominion’s first ever BBQ & Brew Fest. The two weekend-long event is dedicated to celebrating all things barbecue, from sauce to ribs. Guests can enjoy live music while sipping signature craft brews from some of our area’s best local breweries.

Kings Dominion’s Executive Chef Paul Maloney’s exclusive BBQ & Brew menu features classic BBQ recipes with a unique twist such as Tennessee Moonshine pulled pork and slow smoked beef brisket. For the full menu, visit https://www.kingsdominion.com/item/BBQ-and-Brew-Fest/Food..

 

Representatives from several of the area’s best breweries will be on tap pouring their craft beer and cider including:

 

Legend Brewing Co.

Ardent Craft Ales

Triple Crossing Brewing

Center of the Universe

Strangeways Brewing

O’Connor Brewing Co.

Brothers Craft Brewing

Bold Rock Hard Cider

Hardywood Craft Brewery

 

Kick off the fun with the USO Military Chef’s BBQ Challenge on Saturday, August 1 and Sunday, August 2. Some of the military’s best Chefs will battle head-to-head right under the Eiffel Tower. Guests can watch their favorite military teams fight for the championship. The cook-off will be judged by an all-star panel of local Chefs as well as Dr. BBQ himself, Ray Lampe, author and contestant on Food Network’s “Chopped Grillmasters.”

 

BBQ & Brew Fest will also feature ice carving demonstrations which will take place on August 1. Judging of the Military Chef Cook Off is set for August 2 at 1 p.m. For more information, visit our website at https://www.kingsdominion.com/what-s-new/bbq-brew-fest.

 

Save $15 on single day park admission with the special USO admission ticket. These discounted park tickets are available for purchase online and are valid through August 9. A portion of all ticket sales will be donated directly to USO-Metro.

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I like that the park is starting to do more and more events like this - I hope to see this event and the Spring Bloom Festival grow in the coming years.

 

Those final riders on Shockwave are definitely going to need some of the beers!

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When we were at Sea World last year for Bands, Brews and BBQ we were absolutely in love with it. I couldn't be happier that everyone else is ripping off this awesome idea.

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I think Kings Dominion is too focused on food festivals and should be more focused on the park's "normal" food options.

I'm also disappointed with Bistro 75. It's a good idea, but it blocks off so many seats by the royal fountains.

 

I hope Kings Dominion adds a nice, casual sports bar grill in the near future and improves Victoria Gardens Pizza, which in my opinion, was decent before the 2014 season and has been awful ever since.

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^I honestly thought Victoria Gardens was pretty good this year. I do agree that they should focus on some of the food at the park. I wasn't too impressed with Juke Box last month.

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The park has a new executive chef since last season (Chef Paul), and I'd say food quality and offerings have steadily increased since his arrival and he has big things planned for the park, such as the Spring Bloom and this new festival. Take a look around at the wide range of food offerings in the new Soak City, it's much, much better than before. I expect each season, an area of the park will be focused on to enhance the food offerings.

 

As far as Bistro 75 goes, it only takes up 1 of 6 'coves' along the fountains, there's still plenty of room to sit next to the fountains if you aren't dining at Bistro 75 (especially on the non-busy west side of the fountains).

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Some of these "this proves a coaster for [insert year here]" posts are getting to be more ridiculous than those Illuminati confirmed joke videos on YouTube.

 

Says the guy who told everyone that we were getting a new coaster because of an artists mistake in a KD website banner, then said it was your grand discovery and anyone else talking about it must credit you.

I retracted my statements about that a while back (pretty sure, anyway). I apologize if my now-proven-invalid discovery is offensive to you.

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As far as Bistro 75 goes, it only takes up 1 of 6 'coves' along the fountains, there's still plenty of room to sit next to the fountains if you aren't dining at Bistro 75 (especially on the non-busy west side of the fountains).

 

I've never seen it open.

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The hours of Bistro 75 are subject to change, but last I heard it was open Saturday and Sunday beginning at 2 PM.

 

The rest of the week, when the restaurant is not open, the area is open to anyone wanting to sit down in the area next to the fountains.

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Planning to go to the park soon, how is the best western hotel across the street? I only plan on spending one night and then going to the park in the morning.

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The park has a new executive chef since last season (Chef Paul), and I'd say food quality and offerings have steadily increased since his arrival and he has big things planned for the park, such as the Spring Bloom and this new festival. Take a look around at the wide range of food offerings in the new Soak City, it's much, much better than before. I expect each season, an area of the park will be focused on to enhance the food offerings.

 

As far as Bistro 75 goes, it only takes up 1 of 6 'coves' along the fountains, there's still plenty of room to sit next to the fountains if you aren't dining at Bistro 75 (especially on the non-busy west side of the fountains).

 

I agree, Chef Paul has done quite a bit for the park food service in the year that he has been at Kings Dominion. I think he started late May or early June of 2014. The food department has been a thorn in the side of the park with dismal customer reviews; really since Paramount took over. The Chef and his small culinary team have focused mainly in the Surf City water park and a few places on the dry side (Country Kitchen - last time I visited, they had pork spare ribs back on the menu for the 1st time in several years). They have tweaked things across most food locations including a whole new menu for the Wayside Grill in the Old VA section.

 

Given how many food locations are in the park, Chef Paul can only do so much in the short time he has been there. There are things that still need work in many locations. Mainly relating to the food service and methodology of getting food orders out in a timely and efficient manner. That will take some time to get a good methodology/system in place and better training for the workers.

 

As far as the food festivals go, The BBQ & Brew event is the only the 2nd food festival at the park. Both food festivals at Kings Dominion are way scaled down versions of what has been going on at Carowinds this year. The "Taste of the Carolinas" spring event was 3 times the size of The Spring Bloom event at KD. In any case, I am glad SOMETHING is being done to shake up the stale food service at the park and I am glad to see Chef Paul trying out new things and working toward a better food department for the park.

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Planning to go to the park soon, how is the best western hotel across the street? I only plan on spending one night and then going to the park in the morning.

 

 

You really can't get any better for the price and location. We stayed there in June. It's not high end by any means but it does have some features i like including the pool staying open until midnight. Seriously this has always been a pet peeve of mine that these hotels and waterparks attached to hotels close pools at ten when the park closes. I along with many other people would like to go relax in the pool after a long day at a park. You also get to leave your car parked at the hotel so you don't have to pay for parking.

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I think I've posted my pipe dream about a B&M flyer taking the place of Anaconda 4 or 5 times in this thread.

 

I get that a lot of enthusiasts hate Arrows, but I'd rather see Anaconda stay and have another coaster interact with it. It's a huge lake, and Anaconda doesn't really take up much space of it. I suppose that's an even bigger pipe dream than it being replaced with a flyer though! I really don't find Anaconda a bad ride except the jerk between the two helix's. People talk about how weird getting into the corkscrews is, but that's how 100% of Arrows enter their corkscrews. They just carbon copied the elements coaster to coaster.

 

I think I'm going to change my pipe dream from B&M flyer to a Maverick or iSpeed-style coaster. Either one is just as (un)likely.

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Has it been confirmed that Shockwave will be removed after it is closed, or is it just confirmed that it is closing, and everyone assumes being removed directly? I'm just curious.

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^yes we are assuming, but since CW removed theirs we can only expect the same outcome here. What would they do to it to consider keeping? I don't think converting it to a floorless/sit down would be all that great.

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Has it been confirmed that Shockwave will be removed after it is closed, or is it just confirmed that it is closing, and everyone assumes being removed directly? I'm just curious.

...what else would they do with it? B&M stand up coasters can be converted to floorless because B&M is still around to engineer new trains that work with the heartline and track type of the ride. None of that can be said for a 1980's TOGO stand up.

 

And it's a piece of crap. Cedar Fair isn't known recently to leave inoperative coasters SBNO.

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