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P. 767: WinterFest Media Night Report

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^ The countdown on http://www.kingsdominion.com counts down til 11:00 AM. So by noon, I'm sure we'll know!

 

Is their countdown based on your PC clock? Counts down to 11am for me too, but that's Melbourne time (currently sitting at one hour to go), which is like 9pm Kings Dominion time?

 

Yes, because my PC time is set to 8:09 am and it says there is only 2 hours till the announcement.

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I'm pretty sure the 2013 addition to Kings Dominion will be an expansion of the kids area and/or a new adult flat ride just like others have suggested. I would be very surprised if the park is getting a coaster both because they just got Intimidator 305 a couple years ago and because Cedar Fair is already building at least two coasters next year. The chain isn't one that's known to install several major coasters at various parks in the same year, and with Cedar Point and CGA both getting one, and Knott's likely getting a coaster as well (all three of which are in much greater need of a new coaster than Kings Dominion), I just don't see a new coaster happening at Kings Dominion next year. I'd say that there's a good chance the park will be getting a new coaster in 2014/2015, but just not 2013.

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Millennium Force Was released in 2000 and Top Thrill Dragster was released in 2003. If those coasters were released 3 years apart I don't see why KD can't get a major coaster.

Because that's Cedar Point and this is Kings Dominion?

 

Volcano and Flight of Fear were built 2 years apart, and Italian Job, Dominator, and Intinidator 305 were also 2 years apart.........

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^Dominator was already owned by Cedar Fair. Very cheap "new" addition.

Agreed, but Knotts also built Xcelerator and Silver Bullet 2 years apart.... I'm not saying KD is getting a new world record holder next year but I'm sure if the return on invest could justify the purchase they would build a major coaster every year. The whole major ride every 4 years or whatever is probably more like guidelines than actual business model.

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Millennium Force Was released in 2000 and Top Thrill Dragster was released in 2003. If those coasters were released 3 years apart I don't see why KD can't get a major coaster.

 

Plus Wicked Twister in 2002. Millennium Force was about the same price as I-305 ($25 million), and Wicked twister was $9,000,000 (3 million more than Windseeker), and Top Thrill Dragster was, again, $25,000,000. If Cedar Point can do that, I'm sure Kings Dominion can possibly put a small-medium sized coaster in.

 

Maybe B&M's first launched coaster!

 

Too bad Hulk already took that record at IOA..

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^Dominator was already owned by Cedar Fair. Very cheap "new" addition.

Misconception. The only thing "cheap" about it was that they already had the track, supports and trains. They still had to pour new foundations, ship and re-assemble the track, build new station and maintenance buildings, and build pathways to its new area.

 

Maybe B&M's first launched coaster!

 

Too bad Hulk already took that record at IOA..

Yes, but the launch system wasn't actually made by B&M. They wanted nothing to do with it, so the launch was subcontracted to Premier Rides.

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Plus Wicked Twister in 2002. Millennium Force was about the same price as I-305 ($25 million), and Wicked twister was $9,000,000 (3 million more than Windseeker), and Top Thrill Dragster was, again, $25,000,000. If Cedar Point can do that, I'm sure Kings Dominion can possibly put a small-medium sized coaster in.

 

Then again, Cedar Point is by far the biggest cash cow in the chain. There's a pie graph someone posted somewhere recently that shows Cedar Fair's expenditures and returns per park, and Cedar Point is more than a quarter of their revenue. With such a high return of investment, they can afford to build so many huge things in such a short period of time. Kings Dominion? Not so much. But one can dream.

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CF also took on a significant debt load after its acquisition of Paramount's KI, KD, Carowinds, CGA, CW. Although CF installed several coasters at these parks since 2008, they need to carefully plan their expenditures (remember Six Flags' bankruptcy?). Of course, prior to CF's acquisition of these parks, the Paramount chain's coaster selections were pretty bad (with some exceptions- Volcano, The Beast).

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^Dominator was already owned by Cedar Fair. Very cheap "new" addition.

Misconception. The only thing "cheap" about it was that they already had the track, supports and trains. They still had to pour new foundations, ship and re-assemble the track, build new station and maintenance buildings, and build pathways to its new area.

 

Maybe B&M's first launched coaster!

 

Too bad Hulk already took that record at IOA..

Yes, but the launch system wasn't actually made by B&M. They wanted nothing to do with it, so the launch was subcontracted to Premier Rides.

 

Woops, I should have been more specific; I meant B&M’s first launched system.

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Well, this is fantastic news for children and families, but the advertising as a new record, especially reaching out on Facebook and their website, it really built up hype to the people who are not affected by the announcement. Good for King's Dominion for making the experience for the children a lot better.

 

Woops, I should have been more specific; I meant B&M’s first lunched system.

 

And this made me laugh

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