adamico2 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Another solution, similar to the clothoid shape, could be starting the turn with a wide radius that gradually tightens as the turn progresses. This would solve the alignment argument while decreasing the amount of time intense forces are sustained, but keep in mind the first half of the second hill was also removed. The track doesn't have to line up at the bottom of the hill. The designers also have that incline to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfreak101 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 The first time I rode I305, I had the flu. I don't remember what that drop and that first half was like before the trims, so I'm just glad that now I'll be able to ride and actually remember the experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfoot12 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 If only Robb could confirm this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjune4991 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Robb? He knows nothing! I get all my information from the Dip'n'Dots guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) According to screamscape, they are widening the turn after the drop on I305 to be able to remove the trims and cut down on wear and tear of the trains and provide for a more comfortable ride. If only Robb could confirm this... I was told by Intamin that I could not post the information I was given, and I'm sticking to that. All I'm going to say is this. I would imagine that if I was told NOT to post something, other people were most likely told the same. And if the information posted to Screamscape is the same as what I was told, then I'm sure Intamin would not be happy with the source as they have broken their trust. But having seeing who the "source" was (it wasn't Screamscape...they were just reporting what they saw), it does not surprise me at all they would break the trust of someone to get a "scoop." --Robb "Relationships are for more important than being first to report something." Alvey Edited December 4, 2010 by robbalvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy T. Koepp Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 ^QFT! Robb, I wish everyone had this much integrity. It's really something to be commended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncolon91 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I just had a great idea come to mind...If I-305 still has trims once whatever is going on is done, we should just paint them like what happened to Pony Express and *BAM* no more trims! Its genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy T. Koepp Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 ^But, what if it rolls back into the station? Don't you think if they already knew that painting the trims would cause them to not work, then doing it on purpose would result in negligence. That is a bigger lawsuit coming than it being by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayzle Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Damn i didnt know I305 could defy the laws of gravity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadster Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 ^QFT! Robb, I wish everyone had this much integrity. It's really something to be commended. What Guy said. I fully didn't expect Robb to comment on what Screamscape had posted, and honestly was surprised when I read it given that Intamin made Robb swear on a stack of Bible's that he'd keep mum. Keeping his word is certainly commendable, many applause, and may many virgins be bestowed upon you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkscrewFoley Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 It's an Intamin, the laws of gravity don't apply to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncolon91 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 ^aint that the truth. Tell it to that dreaded Intamin cable though, it hasn't got the memo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenaapple1974 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Knowing what he knows, Robb has to be laughing at everyone and all the speculation! I wonder if anyone has it right. Hopefully, we will find out soon! You go Robb!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fooz Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 http://www.coastercrew.net/intheloop.php?page=play&file=386 On this podcast ("In the Loop") tonight, John Pagel (Public Relations from Kings Dominion) announced that the turn is being widened, with the goal of removing the trims from the hill all together. The whole turn has been removed as of now, and no track has yet arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadster Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 well, suppose that's settled, will have to make another journey next year to try it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 (edited) At least it's now been announced by the park. Shame on that other group who spilled the beans when I'm sure they were told not to. But it doesn't surprise me given the source. But really, even with the trims, I thought the ride was awesome. Oh, and I should just say it to all the people who kept bitching and complaining over this season... I TOLD YOU SO!!! Seriously...how many times did I say "They aren't done...you'll still see changes...I'm sure you'll see another re-configuration of the trims before it's all done...just give it time... --Robb "More people need to listen to Elissa and I..." Alvey Edited December 14, 2010 by robbalvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I really wonder what widening the track will entail, and I wonder how well it will curb the positive g-forces experienced during the turn. Guess we'll find out in a few months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterlover420 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I TOLD YOU SO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Really, people were expecting anything different than widening the turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDcoasterMAN Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 ^ People will expect any that sounds plausible... The trims will probably return to the tall, third hill like originally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Pleading ignorance, do these modifications come out of Intamin's wallet, or the park's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildStangAlex Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I want to say the park's because that's how most construction projects work: the contractor screws up, you pay! Maybe they've worked something out, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfoot12 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Maybe they'll get a discount on the Intamin prefab that will replace Hurler (wishes...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I want to say the park's because that's how most construction projects work: the contractor screws up, you pay! Maybe they've worked something out, however. Thats not how most construction projects work around here. If you contract someone to do something and they screw it up, its up to them to fix it. Thats the cause of a law suit....but in this case I have no idea. This doesn't seem like intamin screwed up at all. Its just an intense ride that the general public wasn't quite ready for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfoot12 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Really, people were expecting anything different than widening the turn? Overbank turn? Probably too radical of a reprofile. While I think one would have been cool I'm kind of glad the low-to-the-ground turn will remain in some form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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