SeaWhippet Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 I have to disagree on the invert matter. Arrow came up with the suspended in 1981. B&M only locked the cars so they wouldn't topple over when an inversion would be taken too slowly. No, Arrow did NOT develop the first modern suspended coaster. That honor goes to Germany's Werner Stengel and Messerschmitt. The ride was Alpen-Flug, the first suspended coaster, which operated at Munich's Oktoberfest 1975: http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=655778#655778 Sadly, Messerschmitt elected to ignore Stengel's advice to bank the track on the turns. This resulted in that ride and a duplicate under construction to be scrapped. Arrow made the exact same mistake with The Bat. The ride that got it right was BGE's BBW. In an ironic twist of fate, THAT project initially was under the direction of Stengel/Schwarzkopf. Arrow showed up and completed the Wolf when Anton's company encountered ... financial difficulties. Cheers!
mightypotato Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 In fact all their creations (except the invert) are based off of designs that are tried and true... Oh, everything's stolen nowadays. In fact, the fax machine is nothing but a waffle iron with a phone attached!
Orient Wolf Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Speaking of Celebration City, is it possible that its redevelopment plans include a B&M?
netdvn Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 ^ That's could be possible if Herschend decides to keep all the rides at CC. ^^ That's true! It's very difficult to come up with a truly innovative design nowadays.
macca_boy69 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 One day i was YouTube browsing and there was a video titled "5th Dimension Coaster Prototype" and the seats were on top of the track and spun on multipler axis. The track was box shaped. Im not saying anything just that it might be a possibility that B&M are adaptating the multi-dimension coaster.
themeparkman25 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 I have seen that video, it is like one of those gyro flats but on a track right? That coaster concept looks interesting, but I have a hard time believing it as truth. You know when you spin a bicycle wheel when it is in your hands and the centrifugal forces keep it so it spins on a vertical axis, I think that that force would make the coaster a difficult thing to support structurally, but on the train and the track. If you had any weight difference on the trains, it would cause the trains to flip awkwardly and therefore stress everything. At least that is what I think.
macca_boy69 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Yeah i didnt believe it either. It did have the 4-across seating. SO IT MUST BE TRUE! hahah but yes you went all technical on me there. HAHA Robby
netdvn Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 I remember seeing a 5th Dimension coaster concept on YouTube a while back. It seems to have a large number of moving parts, which increases the chances for breakdowns, something B&M doesn't like.
SeaWhippet Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Well, the Mysterious Yellow B&M just got a bud to keep him company. And he's fire engine RED. Let the speculation begin ... I mean ... continue!
atem122 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 The plot thickens I see, I'm still placing my bet on the 500 foot sfmm dive machine themed to that show rescue me (it's the only thing I could think of with firemen, well that and chuck and larry).
bgeguy Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 I'm thinking the red track might be for a hyper...
jazzimm Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 It's so obviously for McDonald's! The only question is which one!
Shavethewhales Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Ug, now we have to wonder whether this is two mystery coasters or one. I think the only U.S. park that can/will buy a B&M for next year is Carowinds, so I'm going to put my final bets on them.
ebl Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 "Well, the Mysterious Yellow B&M just got a bud to keep him company. And he's fire engine RED." (SeaWhippet) The mystery's solved. It's Ketchup and Mustard---The Ride. Eric
ethans_dad06 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 ^haha leave it to Eric to come up with something like that! Eric, you rock! Haha. I'm sure that these are different coasters as the customers names are different. I'm really suprised no one has nailed this down yet!
ebl Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 "Haha leave it to Eric to come up with something like that!" (ethans_dad06) Thanks for the kind word. I gave you a laugh, with my condiments... Eric
Goliath513 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Looks like that red track is for the REAL Laser Snake Horse on Fire! And I still hold my bet on the yellow track being for Silverwood's rumored stand-up.
B-RadG Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 And the plot thickens here at the B&M plant! And us enthusiasts have more work to do. Any of y'all good at cracking codes? If so please do tell where these are going!
paulie123 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 2 new upcoming B&M's? Well this is exciting. Does the Dive Machine in Happy Valley have all its parts?
netdvn Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 ^ The label says MC so its clearly for a hyper of some sort. Carowinds is currently the only park that is rumored for a B&M Hyper so chances are it will head over there next year. The yellow track is probably there just to distract curious coaster enthusiasts from what's really going on at the B&M plant.
MillenniumChild Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 This is getting good. Bring that red track to Carowinds please
Hercules Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 ^ The label says MC so its clearly for a hyper of some sort. Carowinds is currently the only park that is rumored for a B&M Hyper so chances are it will head over there next year. The yellow track is probably there just to distract curious coaster enthusiasts from what's really going on at the B&M plant. Oh yeah, that is it. They take time out of their schedule to fabricate steel into coaster track just to distract the few thousand nerds out there.
atem122 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Looks like that red track is for the REAL Laser Snake Horse on Fire! And I still hold my bet on the yellow track being for Silverwood's rumored stand-up. Agreed about the LSHoF! And they're still rumoring stand ups? I read that the concept pretty much died after GS, good to know that they might be building another! -Also, as long as that track isnt going to sfmm I'll be happy, I want my mildly rumored intamin!
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