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P. 288: New B&M Dive Machine Announced!

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Wow...no way it runs that fast. That was deadly g-forces that even ejects something off the train! Hope it was a piece of test equipment and not a piece of the train lol.

 

Even slower this thing is going to be absolutely bonkers.

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I love how there's a single rider line on this when their shouldn't be any empty seats, else the entire row will be empty. I suppose groups will try to stick together by lining up vertically in rows back to back from each other and because of this we will see empty seats.

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I love how there's a single rider line on this when their shouldn't be any empty seats, else the entire row will be empty. I suppose groups will try to stick together by lining up vertically in rows back to back from each other and because of this we will see empty seats.

 

Huh? This is the perfect ride for a single rider line.

 

If there are 8 seats, there are many chances the groups next to ride won't add up to exactly 8, and there may not be a small enough group close to the grouper to fill the train. Singles go in!

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I love how there's a single rider line on this when their shouldn't be any empty seats, else the entire row will be empty. I suppose groups will try to stick together by lining up vertically in rows back to back from each other and because of this we will see empty seats.

 

Huh? This is the perfect ride for a single rider line.

 

If there are 8 seats, there are many chances the groups next to ride won't add up to exactly 8, and there may not be a small enough group close to the grouper to fill the train. Singles go in!

 

Except that groups won't be sitting in rows together - that was my point. There will be no groups of three taking a row of four and leaving a seat. The only way I can see there being empty seats is if groups divide amoungst the rows and try to get on the same train, so that they are back to back with each other.

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To me, I just don’t see why or how either of these Raptors will have trims added, why is everyone jumping to conclusions based off of ONE testing video? I can see softer wheels being switched out, but I feel like if trims were going to be added, they’d already be in place, given the meticulous engineering that goes into these coasters. Don’t you guys think RMC knows the specific forces at each specific part of the layout? Besides how would trims be implemented on such a thin track, wouldn’t it seem like it would lead to a major delay to the ride opening in order to design trims for the Raptor track (and trains) and decide where exactly to place them in the layout? I fully understand that I could be wrong about this, but it just doesn’t make sense to me.

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Besides how would trims be implemented on such a thin track,

The same way the chain lift and final brake run exist on that thin track. For all we know trims are already in place and are just not being used during testing. Do you really think that they haven't considered that they may need trims to slow this down? Almost every new coaster runs at full speed/with hard wheels & no trims during testing.

 

I'm willing to bet money they don't run it like that with guests.

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These are the brakes at the end of the Railblazer animated POV, so it is safe to assume that these would look like the trims if they were added, correct? Through all the construction photos of both of these coasters and both animations (granted I know animations must be taken with a grain of salt but I'm sticking to my guns here) there are no points with added brakes or brake slots, also shown below. Also in both the Wonder Woman and Railblazer animations both seem to maintain a speed that is relatively close to what we saw in the testing video. I'm sure it won't run quite as fast at what the IRL video looked like, but I'm willing to bet it will be damn close. Good news is we don't have much longer to find out for sure!

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These are the brakes at the end of the Railblazer animated POV, so it is safe to assume that these would look like the trims if they were added, correct? Through all the construction photos of both of these coasters and both animations (granted I know animations must be taken with a grain of salt but I'm sticking to my guns here) there are no points with added brakes or brake slots, also shown below. Also in both the Wonder Woman and Railblazer animations both seem to maintain a speed that is relatively close to what we saw in the testing video. I'm sure it won't run quite as fast at what the IRL video looked like, but I'm willing to bet it will be damn close. Good news is we don't have much longer to find out for sure!

 

 

Besides how would trims be implemented on such a thin track,

The same way the chain lift and final brake run exist on that thin track.

Correct. All brakes and chain lift features are completely built into the track and not simply installed on top. Which is the reasoning we use to confirm there's no trims.

 

For all we know trims are already in place and are just not being used during testing.

 

To reiterate: After the tons of pictures and videos we've seen of these Raptors, we can essentially confirm there's no brakes/trims anywhere in the layout but the final brake run. Any brakes use a modified track style with cut-outs (pictured above) and it would be clear to us if this existed anywhere else on the layout.

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I think the effect of running softer vs. harder wheels on the i-box coasters has been demonstrated by now. Like a lot of coasters, RMC will probably experiment with different configurations on the raptors until they find one with enough friction to run the train at an acceptable speed. I doubt trims will even be necessary.

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... I'm willing to bet money they don't run it like that with guests.

 

Same.

 

As amazing as we all know it would be I very highly doubt that it will run at that speed with guest on it.

 

But hey, who knows... Maybe Six Flags will surprise us!

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Has RMC ever put trims on a ride (other than mid course brake - Texas Giant, Mean Streak 2.0)?

 

Changing combination of wheels, maybe, probably.

 

It's a shame the closest of these clones (to me) will not be open to the public (near the RMC factory). I hope when Mr. Grubb's kids and friends get enough rides they sell the coaster to Silverwood, or perhaps Oaks in Portland (that would be much closer ...)

 

I assume RMC will sell a lot of these.

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^ Personally, I'm still waiting for an El Loco (orig. or custom) to come closer

to you and me. And Las Vegas Adventuredome isn't close enough, for myself.

 

But definitely, one of these would be awesome to get, instead!

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Correct. All brakes and chain lift features are completely built into the track and not simply installed on top. Which is the reasoning we use to assume there's no trims.

 

Fixed that for you. There is a difference between confirming and assuming. You guys haven't confirmed anything.

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Correct. All brakes and chain lift features are completely built into the track and not simply installed on top. Which is the reasoning we use to assume there's no trims.

 

Fixed that for you. There is a difference between confirming and assuming. You guys haven't confirmed anything.

 

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^ wtf?

 

Correct. All brakes and chain lift features are completely built into the track and not simply installed on top. Which is the reasoning we use to assume there's no trims.

 

Fixed that for you. There is a difference between confirming and assuming. You guys haven't confirmed anything.

 

You can literally watch these videos that showing the whole layout in detail. There's clearly nowhere to even install trims

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDiv5nHDHj8

 

Maybe they'll want to control the speed some other way, but I doubt they want to replace full track sections or cut into their current track sections to add them

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Drone footage from 100 feet up that definitely does not show every inch of track is not confirmation that there won't be trims, sorry. Until this thing runs with people on it and no trims anywhere or Fred Grubb himself comes out and say they won't install trims, you haven't confirmed that its going to run without trims.

 

I mean hey maybe I'm wrong and they won't, my initial post was that they would do *something* to slow it down (harder wheels, trims, etc) and you guys got on this whole "there won't be trims" thing because the enthusiast in you wants it to run that fast. Hopefully it does, it looks like it'll be amazing. But to assume a few trims are outside the realm of possibility based on photos and drone footage is laughable.

 

Also protip: I'd ease up on the ALTair footage around here, the admins don't like it.

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