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I just created an account to post this! I just saw the TikTok .. never seen this before on a giant frisbee .. have seen the terrifying video of the Ohio state fair accident which is nowhere near the Zamperlas... but definitely a little odd to see. I’m sure it‘s real video, you can see the people bouncing in their seats!

6 hours ago, bert425 said:

^ I'd put $$ on one of the motors up top being installed backwards.

it happened at both SFFT (Joker) a couple of years ago and it shut down the other versions of the ride while Six Flags checked them out (more than one of them actually burned out the motors as some of them HAD been installed wrong).

with the whole mess of the pandemic?  It wouldn't surprise me if one of the motors on top of Harley got installed backwards, resulting in what's in the video.


OR - the video has been manipulated to make people think there's an issue.   The SFA site doesn't show it's not operating. . so could be manipulated video.

Can you talk more about what installing a motor backwards is like? Does it effect the ride’s cycle, and are they able to operate for a long time with a backwards motor? Super interested

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Yeah, it's not a motor installed backwards (reversed polarity).  If it was, that would happen on every cycle, and when they tried to run it, the two motors would be working against each other and the arm wouldn't move very much and the structure would shake itself apart like shown in the video.  I have to think that even Six Flags would have found that a suitable reason to not open the ride.

The way the support is flexing/torquing like that leads me to believe that the motor on that side only is not turning off when it should, and is fighting against the holding brake on the other side that holds the arm in place while its in load/unload mode.  But that's just my theory.

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15 hours ago, disownedpear said:

Why would the motor being installed backwards not be evident during testing?

when they discovered the issue while getting ready to open Joker at SFFT (they actually burned out the motor, which is how they realized it, I believe) - they shut down all of this ride type across the chain, and if recalling correctly, they found more than one other version where they had to correct, as it was incorrect there too.  

so the rides ran with the motors installed incorrectly, but not as well as they should have.

 

at least that's my recollection.

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^That is almost more reason to believe it is NOT a backward motor. Six Flags has what, seven of these rides that have opened before SFA’s? You’d think they would have learned to check the motors by now, especially with the extra year. 
 

That type of deflection is not great for the structure and should definitely be addressed. It didn’t look too far off from hitting resonance and tearing itself apart. 

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^ the bit of more info I saw on it today , I'm inclined to think what Mike says is more correct:    the holding brake is on, and the motor on the opposite side is not turning off.

so certainly sounds like a motor problem. . . tho I'm not a mechanic, nor there, so I'm just guessing too.

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It is definitely not a fake video. The guy who took it typically posts completely unrelated videos that haven’t previously gotten a lot of views (not to say his videos aren’t good). This one blew up and currently has 3.1 M views on TikTok. Regardless, he posted a version without sound where you can hear “We’re gonna get someone do not worry we are going to get you off” coming from the ride operator. I downloaded it and it is here for those who don’t have TT. The user who posted is big216teezy.

Regardless, sounds like it should be an isolated issue. Still, doesn’t look great...

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2 hours ago, disownedpear said:

Any engineers here know how close this thing was to catastrophic failure? Because it looks mighty close to me.

 

Married to an engineer. 

Turns out it’s not even close to catastrophic failure. 

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1 hour ago, Superbatboy said:

How often are these things inspected? Geez

I think once a year in Maryland, might be different for a new ride though. The inspectors do make recommendations, such as moving a control panel so guests can't press it, or improving clearances. 

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It definitely needs to be closed until they can figure it out. I agree with people who are saying it's something with the motor based on the sound and the way the one leg is bouncing. The sound matches with a motor turning at least to my ears but then again I'm not an engineer and suck with anything mechanical.

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Oh good lord people this is a mountain out of a mole hill.  Look at Xcelerator's top hat after a train launches.  This ride was probably improperly run (off-balance most likely) for a cycle and the structure needs to calm itself down between cycles.

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^Are you kidding this is hot breaking Six Flags America action! 🤪

https://patch.com/maryland/bowie/six-flags-ride-shuts-down-video-shows-structure-shaking-report

Park PR confirmed the ride is closed for inspection. I am an engineer myself, and I can’t tell you how close this was to reaching a critical stress point because I don’t have any specific information about the ride. I don’t work for Zamperla! I can tell you that is not a normal amount of deflection expected in a typical ride cycle though, and if it were this ride wouldn’t last very long. Within a factor of safety? Sure. Comparing it to regular operating track sway on Xcelerator?.... No.

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  • 1 month later...

Any idea on what the park might get for 2022?

I realize that none of these ideas will likely happen; but stranger shit has happened before!

1. Roar finally gets the Iron Horse treatment 
2. Shipwreck Falls gets dismantled (seems to be a trend lately of Shoot the Chutes rides going away)
3. Penguin's Blizzard River gets taken out in favor of an RMC Raptor

 

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I hope that for 2022, SFA is getting treatment for their concerning case of shaky leg syndrome. That's really all we can ask for.

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I agree that Blizzard River is ugly and sucks, but here are the queue times for the last week. It has great uptime and it's reasonably popular. Is there any actual reason that everyone wants this gone other than the fact that they don't personally like it? I agree that I'd love to see it die but I don't know if there's any reason to expect that it will.

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Attempt 5 of the season to ride Harley Quinn as successful. I am not accustomed to this park being packed, I prefer the ghost town vibe and riding everything , lunch, snack and out in under 2 and a half hours. Three hours for HQ and a burger was extreme.

Johnny Rocket's can be just as entertaining as the stunt show. One person cooking and one person taking orders, a rainbow of every color shirt manager just overwhelmed.  At one point four managers and three workers. By the way, all of the  attention to cleanliness has gone out the window now that COVID is apparently completely over.

 

HQ holds 40 people and WTF every cycle had 20 of them wearing Crocs or slides storing and putting them back on and another 5 that got on the ride and then expect the op to take them off and store them like they be Cinderella. Slooooooooow loading.

 

Vaping , pants down below boxers, wandering restricted areas, and way too much sloppy boob spillage on bikini tops in the dry park all on the rise.

 

All that said, HQ is a nice addition and gives some interest to that area. Along with WW two solid adds . As far as what's next?  New trains and name on Mind Eraser would be the best we could hope for. 

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1 hour ago, MisterBrow said:

 

pants down below boxers

Oh heavens no.

 

But seriously the vaping has been a real issue, most employees are getting paid below minimum wage and could simply care less. Never seen people vape on the actual rides till this year. Someone was vaping down the drop of Superman...

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On 8/2/2021 at 9:30 PM, disownedpear said:

Oh heavens no.

 

But seriously the vaping has been a real issue, most employees are getting paid below minimum wage and could simply care less. Never seen people vape on the actual rides till this year. Someone was vaping down the drop of Superman...

Heavens yes. What is funny is that so many guys wear the the boxers that Amazon lists as the "best seller".  It's like, I have those!"

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