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The ride doesn't really have "airtime"

Post invalidated, better luck next time.

 

This is a matter of opinion. I don't understand how you can call it airtime when you are completely stapled in and enduring stinging pain on your quads. Prefer the B&Ms where you are actually allowed to leave your seat.

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^Rode the ride the same places you did, didn't have anywhere near the amount of pain you did. And it had some of the best airtime I've experienced on any coaster, El Toro included (which also has tight lapbars).

 

And I'm overjoyed that Skyrush doesn't have 305's restraints.

 

On this matter we will agree to disagree. I am not the only one with this complaint, heard plenty of people saying the same thing in the Hollow.

 

I also noticed the front to be a little rougher (vibrations and shaking). Did you notice that at all?

 

I liked the ride and I'll ride it again, but I'll be staying in the back from now on.

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Like I said in my own trip report, the only time I even felt any sort of pain on my thighs was when the train was sitting stationary on the brake run. I felt no sort of pain during the circuit at all. I rode in the very front and it was smooth as silk.

 

I'm not one to jump on the "Intamin is God" bandwagon, but the problem isn't completely Intamin's fault. My ride would have been much more comfortable if the attendant had let the restraint sit where I pulled it down to (just resting on my legs). Instead, they forced it down as far as it could go! The attendants at El Toro don't do that, and New Jersey is so much more safety-conscious than Pennsylvania!

 

What did I ever do to the ride operators to deserve a restraint stapling?!?

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Wow, Skyrush sounds like the best coaster built since ExGforce, and the Superman trio here in the US! This is great news! I'm a bit shocked at the amount of complaining about the intensity, this is EXACTLY what I want to see.... Another GREAT Intamin hyper coaster filled with negative G's! Woohoo! I just hope that Hershey doesn't tame as KD did with I305. It's a shame that I305 was tamed. Heck, it didn't even have very good airtime and yes, the positive G's were strong but that is why they have warnings. If people can't handle it then don't ride. There is a place in the coaster world for extreme rides and every tom, dick and harry doesn't need to ride every one! I can't wait for Skyrush this summer. How are the restraints, can only skinny people ride? What do they look like and are big people being turned away? Are there seatbelts too?

 

Also, with the amazing descriptions of this coaster, why would people still rank I305 higher?

 

Ted

 

The only thing I see people complaining about is the restraints, not the intensity. If the restraints are causing discomfort and pain, then it is a valid complaint. I don't think they are going to trim it because that is not going to fix the problem with the restraints and I don't think it is chewing through wheels/causing greyouts like I305 was. I think they will wait until the off season to do anything to the restraints if they even do at all. From the videos I have seen most seem to be cheering and clapping when returning to the station.

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Like I said in my own trip report, the only time I even felt any sort of pain on my thighs was when the train was sitting stationary on the brake run. I felt no sort of pain during the circuit at all. I rode in the very front and it was smooth as silk.

 

I'm not one to jump on the "Intamin is God" bandwagon, but the problem isn't completely Intamin's fault. My ride would have been much more comfortable if the attendant had let the restraint sit where I pulled it down to (just resting on my legs). Instead, they forced it down as far as it could go! The attendants at El Toro don't do that, and New Jersey is so much more safety-conscious than Pennsylvania!

 

What did I ever do to the ride operators to deserve a restraint stapling?!?

 

So if the ride OPS stop stapling, which is probably unnecessary, then it may fix the entire issue.

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Like I said in my own trip report, the only time I even felt any sort of pain on my thighs was when the train was sitting stationary on the brake run. I felt no sort of pain during the circuit at all. I rode in the very front and it was smooth as silk.

 

I'm not one to jump on the "Intamin is God" bandwagon, but the problem isn't completely Intamin's fault. My ride would have been much more comfortable if the attendant had let the restraint sit where I pulled it down to (just resting on my legs). Instead, they forced it down as far as it could go! The attendants at El Toro don't do that, and New Jersey is so much more safety-conscious than Pennsylvania!

 

What did I ever do to the ride operators to deserve a restraint stapling?!?

 

So if the ride OPS stop stapling, which is probably unnecessary, then it may fix the entire issue.

 

The stapling IS needed, at least in the back. If I had the restraints as loose in the back seat as I usually do on Apollo's Chariot, I really feel like I would have been sucked out. Even stapled, it felt like I was a goner. That's pretty cool.

 

In the front, I think you'd be fine with a little room. They'd never even want to attempt to train ops to load up in that fashion, so it's gonna be all stapled, all the time.

 

The restraint design is to be blame. If enough people whine about it maybe they'll be forced to change it - like the alterations to 305.

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It would be interesting to know what the thought process was on why the designed the restraints the way they did. Maybe in time the operators won't be so hard core about stapling everyone in. I can't imagine that even an inch would make that much difference in the safety of the rider.

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Also, with the amazing descriptions of this coaster, why would people still rank I305 higher?

 

I rode both on Saturday, and I'd say I prefer I305 better.

 

SkyRush beat I305 in terms on strong airtime and intensity. However, I loved the insane transitions and speed that I305 had that SkyRush didn't. I also preferred I305's restraints, which seems to be a matter of split opinion on here. I found SkyRush's restraints to be uncomfortable, but certainly not to the level of being painful or detracting from the ride.

 

The bottom line, however, is that those two rides are (IMO) the two best steel coasters in the country. Some may like SkyRush better, and I wouldn't consider them "wrong", just to have different taste.

 

My top 5 would go something like this after the weekend:

I305 > SkyRush > Nemesis, Mega-Lite, and Bizarro/S:ROS (all three tied)

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305 has the height, speed, length, and positive g's over Skyrush. Skyrush has the airtime and lapbars over 305. If we're talking about which ride's restraints tighten down more during the ride, that's honestly a wash, because they both do. However, if 305 had lapbars, you would see some major injuries occur because of those lateral transitions.

 

All that aside, I still think 305 is better, but not by much. Skyrush is a phenomenal ride, though.

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I'm pretty convinced that the General Public is composed of wimps. The only ride in recent memory that literally felt uncomfortable was Green Lantern: First Flight..but that didn't stop me from riding it again and again. Also, if SkyRush's restraints aren't any worse than El Toro's, then there should be no reason for b*tching. Cut your losses because those restraints are the only thing keeping you from flying out of that train and onto the pavement! The Negative-G's are strong right? Be happy!!

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El Toro doesn't staple? Then we must have ridden 2 different coasters. They stapled me EVERY time I rode it and it caused the ride to be really painful to me. Maybe it is because I am a little bigger but I highly doubt it. Even most of my skinny friends thought that it was painful because of the restraints. Don't get me wrong, I love El Toro and it is my favorite woodie but there is no doubt that it is painful. I had red marks on my thighs and stomach from the restraints. I have experienced really pain inducing stapling on I305, Fahrenheit and Storm Runner as well. While I think that most of these rides are really good, Intamin really should either stop stapling people to the point they can't breathe or come up with some kind of softer, comfortable restraint. It can't be that hard.

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I'm pretty convinced that the General Public is composed of wimps. The only ride in recent memory that literally felt uncomfortable was Green Lantern: First Flight..but that didn't stop me from riding it again and again. Also, if SkyRush's restraints aren't any worse than El Toro's, then there should be no reason for b*tching. Cut your losses because those restraints are the only thing keeping you from flying out of that train and onto the pavement! The Negative-G's are strong right? Be happy!!

 

Just as a data point, I found SkyRush painful, but didn't find GL:FF uncomfortable at all. I also found SkyRush's restraints ARE worse than El Toro's. It's not a negative G problem or an intensity problem as the restraints are painful even in the brake run.

 

...come up with some kind of softer, comfortable restraint. It can't be that hard.

 

I see what you did there

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While I think that most of these rides are really good, Intamin really should either stop stapling people to the point they can't breathe or come up with some kind of softer, comfortable restraint. It can't be that hard.

I don't think Intamin is doing the stapling, I think the park's ride operators are

 

I personally felt no discomfort on El Toro. But truth be told, I think that comfort and restraint style can vary depending on a person's body type.

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I don't think Intamin is doing the stapling, I think the park's ride operator's are

 

I personally felt no discomfort on El Toro. But truth be told, I think that comfort and restraint style can vary depending on a person's body type.

THIS....a thousand times over.

 

If anyone doubts this opinion, then go sit in a test seat somewhere. I guarantee you won't feel any pain until either... A) You forcefully try to close the restraints, or B) Someone does it for you.

 

Just sayin'.

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Even though the impact of the trims isn't very noticeable (according to reports) I wonder what the calculated difference in physical forces before and after the trims felt like. I saw some figures thrown around a few pages before opening about the difference in -G's with the trims that seemed fairly minimal, but a small figure on paper might have meant a huge difference in rider comfort.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is I wonder how much more complaining we would have seen had the trims not been installed? For what it's worth I think the ride looks awesome and is easily in my top 5 "want to ride" list in America.

 

Complaints about airtime being too forceful is like saying a beer is too cold.

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Even though the impact of the trims isn't very noticeable (according to reports) I wonder what the calculated difference in physical forces before and after the trims felt like. I saw some figures thrown around a few pages before opening about the difference in -G's with the trims that seemed fairly minimal, but a small figure on paper might have meant a huge difference in rider comfort.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is I wonder how much more complaining we would have seen had the trims not been installed? For what it's worth I think the ride looks awesome and is easily in my top 5 "want to ride" list in America.

 

Complaints about airtime being too forceful is like saying a beer is too cold.

 

The ride is trimmed less than a mile in speed, so i really doubt you would feel any difference.

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The ride is trimmed less than a mile in speed, so i really doubt you would feel any difference.

 

That's what I'm saying, a 1 mph difference in speed doesn't sound like hardly a difference at all, but I wonder if they had engineers ride it before the decision to add trims was made or if they based it off of calculations alone (or maybe the thing was meant to have trims all along). Just curious.

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