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Gotta agree with a couple posts I've seen: it would be totally bada$$ to name this new coaster either Mako Shark or Megalodon. The fact that there isn't already a Megalodon coaster or ride out there is a total headscratcher. Plus, in spite of my better judgment on sharks, I find the idea of megalodons to be legitimately terrifying. In a good way.

 

I too would strongly prefer a manufacturer out of left field, for some fresh blood in the hyper world, so to speak. But I doubt that'll be the case.

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AMEN!!! It's so dumb to me that a company (Premier) which made headlines and won awards and praise from all of us for taking OTSR's OFF of rides that didn't need it is now needlessly putting OTSR

Is this like spanking the monkeys?

The Ice Breaker animated POV looks pretty good, I think it will have a good amount of airtime and may be a surprise hit! With that being said can someone PLEASE explain to me why Premier insists on pu

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SeaWorld was upgraded to a buy from neutral by Goldman Sachs, stock has been up over 3% most of the day. Just wanted to throw that out since many think it's on the ropes. I'm making bank on them in the mean time.

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Sea World has filed for a 201' attraction with the FAA, so it looks like we have our height, just barely edging out Sheikra:

 

 

The filing also includes the construction timeline, which runs from June 2015 - May 2016, as well as a rough estimate of the location, putting it out by the retention pond behind Kraken/Shark Encounter, as rumored.

 

Here's a direct link to the filing. It'll likely be updated with a few more specific details in the coming days:

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=250178937&row=2

 

Can't wait until May for the full announcement!

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Pretty sure the same 200 foot limit applies to Disney. The Everest mountain is 200 feet tall and Cinderella castle is just below 200 feet. I'm assuming you need special permits to build anything over that.

Everything at Disney is 199.5 feet and that is only because they would have to put the red airplane warning lights on anything 200 feet or taller. Disney thinks this takes away from the themeing. ie: Tower of Terror is 199.5 feet tall because they thought flashing red lights do not match their old hotel theme.

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Jane Goodall now?

 

The best thing about this article was someone in the comment section mentioning about how her opinion on marine life was like a mechanical engineer making comments about an electrical engineer's work.

 

Sorry Jane, but I cannot quit my day job to go live in a jungle studying chimps for 50 years like you. I would much rather see and learn about them at a zoo or park that I know takes care of their animals and serves a purpose in supporting the rescue/recovery of unfortunate animals that would otherwise die in the wild. This as well as educating us about creatures that we may never see in the flesh during our lifetime.

 

You can clearly see that CNN has their agenda against this park and will do what it takes to try and take them down.

 

 

 

It was awesome to see the animal show at Busch Gardens last week where Jack Hanna basically took a shit on CNN and Blackfish (he wouldn't call the movie out by name) and explained how BG and SW are involved in the care and healing of animals that otherwise wouldn't make it in the wild. Very powerful show...I will try to get a photo trip report up soon!

 

Edit - pulled the link. Eff CNN.

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^Doesn't the total height include things like the handrails and such? (not that it makes a big difference)

 

Yea - the "actual" height is required for official filings, so I think it's safe to say that the track will top out at around 198 with the structure reaching a max of 201.

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You can clearly see that CNN has their agenda against this park and will do what it takes to try and take them down.

 

CNN's agenda is to sell Blackfish DVD's.

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You can clearly see that CNN has their agenda against this park and will do what it takes to try and take them down.

 

CNN's agenda is to sell Blackfish DVD's.

 

What? Everything they do is to make money? What a crazy idea.

 

Glad to see everything is moving forward, though. Even if it ends up being a B&M still happy to see a hyper coaster in Orlando.

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Whatever coaster design/type they go with, this seems like a very wise move by Sea World to me. I really enjoyed my visit to Sea World Orlando in 2013 and would love to get back there someday soon.

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You can clearly see that CNN has their agenda against this park and will do what it takes to try and take them down.

 

CNN's agenda is to sell Blackfish DVD's.

 

What? Everything they do is to make money? What a crazy idea.

 

Glad to see everything is moving forward, though. Even if it ends up being a B&M still happy to see a hyper coaster in Orlando.

 

And in Florida in general!

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I hope this new coaster is a new leaf for SeaWorld, I really wish they would go back to the mid-2000's with their whole "Touch a world" and "worlds connect" advertisements. This new coaster will hopefully push back a lot of negative press for the company. I also hope they drop the whole Blackfish defense commercials and just go back to making commercials like these:

 

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This was when SeaWorld was at it's best in my opinion, so I hope in addition to this coaster, the next Shamu show goes back to something like Believe which message was to inspire.

 

As for the coaster itself, I feel like a B&M Hyper is just too safe. Something like Skyrush would be so marketable especially since this is clearly shark themed.

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As for the coaster itself, I feel like a B&M Hyper is just too safe. Something like Skyrush would be so marketable especially since this is clearly shark themed.

 

I don't see how a B&M wouldn't be as marketable as an Intamin? As long as you have a creative marketing team you can promote anything well. Look at the insane things Merlins marketing team keep coming up with for attractions.

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As for the coaster itself, I feel like a B&M Hyper is just too safe. Something like Skyrush would be so marketable especially since this is clearly shark themed.

 

I don't see how a B&M wouldn't be as marketable as an Intamin? As long as you have a creative marketing team you can promote anything well. Look at the insane things Merlins marketing team keep coming up with for attractions.

The fast lift hill is definately somethin the GP public would eat up, the whole name for Skyrush is based around that whole idea. Also the winged seats give a much unique feel than anything a B&M hyper could give, especially if this coaster is residing next to the lake. Either way I'm fine with anything, that's just how I feel. I really could see either choice fitting though.

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As for the coaster itself, I feel like a B&M Hyper is just too safe. Something like Skyrush would be so marketable especially since this is clearly shark themed.

 

I don't see how a B&M wouldn't be as marketable as an Intamin?

Um...Intamins are simply better?

 

I agree that B&M is too safe for the competition in Orlando especially SWO already has a flyer. SWO needs manageable innovations so Intamin is the right choice when going above 200ft. They have plenty of experience and they don't do the same thing over and over again.

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Yea - the "actual" height is required for official filings, so I think it's safe to say that the track will top out at around 198 with the structure reaching a max of 201.

Then wouldn't it not be a true hyper coaster?

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I don't see how a B&M wouldn't be as marketable as an Intamin?

Um...Intamins are simply better?

 

I agree that B&M is too safe for the competition in Orlando especially SWO already has a flyer. SWO needs manageable innovations so Intamin is the right choice when going above 200ft. They have plenty of experience and they don't do the same thing over and over again.

Everyone outside of coaster forums couldn't care less about whether the coaster is a B&M or an Intamin. If "tallest and fastest coaster in Orlando" doesn't attract more guests to SeaWorld, going with an Intamin over a B&M certainly won't help either.

 

Also, the "competition in Orlando"? What competition has anything even close to a hyper coaster? Even Kraken is a hee-uge stretch.

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Mostly what it comes down to is something that can remain marketable, yeah it's great that SeaWorld will have the tallest coaster in Orlando, but as we can see it can easily be broken and might be next year by the SkyPlex(which I dont think will happen but is a completely different beast), so yeah I think besides being the tallest coaster in Orlando, it's gotta have some over marketing factors besides that for longevity purposes. Maybe that doesn't even matter at all but that's just how I view it. I doubt that the GP would really know or care about much of the differences between a B&M Hyper and say, the Incredible Hulk so something like Skyrush could stand on it's own.

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Yea - the "actual" height is required for official filings, so I think it's safe to say that the track will top out at around 198 with the structure reaching a max of 201.

Then wouldn't it not be a true hyper coaster?

 

Not necessarily - the structure of Apollo's Chariot tops out at 170ft but the ravine it dives into gives it a 210 foot drop so it's considered a hyper. Alternatively, Goliath at SFOG is 200 ft tall but only has a 170ft drop and it's still considered a hyper. So, I think the fact that the structure reaches 201ft absolutely makes it a hyper. Also, it may go underground to make the drop 200ft +.

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Everyone outside of coaster forums couldn't care less about whether the coaster is a B&M or an Intamin.

 

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Yup. I cant imagine they'd even know. My friends certainly would have no idea what I'd mean by intamin & B&M

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Just a crazy idea in my head, but wasn't there a rumor about a park in Orlando looking to get a Chance Morgan Hyper GT-X model coaster(like Lighting Run at Kentucky Kingdom) I think that would be awesome if this is what Sea World Orlando was going for in a 200ft Hyper-Coaster that goes 75 mph+ and Hyper GT-X is an airtime machine!!!

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Just a crazy idea in my head, but wasn't there a rumor about a park in Orlando looking to get a Chance Morgan Hyper GT-X model coaster(like Lighting Run at Kentucky Kingdom) I think that would be awesome if this is what Sea World Orlando was going for in a 200ft Hyper-Coaster that goes 75 mph+ and Hyper GT-X is an airtime machine!!!

As cool as that would be, I'm almost 200% sure this will be a B&M. They're GP-friendly, reliable, impressive-looking, and they do have some nice floater airtime.

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Just a few things. I was at Sea world yesterday i had a great day. First things first the Customer i Enjoyed Kraken it is a great floor less the best that i have been on. Some shakes in the front but not anything that took away from the ride. Manta i loved it, being my first B&M Flyer that i have been on. The Pretzel loop really packs lots of G's great ride. A new Roller Coaster will really draw in new people to the park. New with that said Wild Arctic it ride technology is really cool, But the ride its self is really dumb, and super short if i waited more then the 15 20 minutes that i did i would not be happy. Feel like it should be in 3d with a better storie and could really be something to talk about.

Turtle trex was a cool way to show the a 3d movie, it is worth seeing when your at the Park I really likes all the shows and the new sea lion high was really well done. Now for a few questions Do they no longer use Tilikum in shows or anything at all?

Do you guys count Journey to Atlantis as a coaster i thought i was going to but the coaster part is really short so now I'm not sure.?

Whats going on with Dolphin Cover it was closed when i was there and it looks like the pools were drained.?

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