Most Overrated coaster?

[aliston]

You guys have bashed pretty much every top 10 ride. Personally I don't know how anyone can say MF is overrated... compared to what?? Ive ridden most of the top 10 rides in the country and I can honestly say MF is the best -- by far. All these MF bashers are nuts!

[SharkTums]

^I think MF is overrated!

[downunder]

I think MF isn't so much as over-rated as much as it had the potential to be a so much better ride, too much flat track, they could have done so much more with the layout.

[PKI Jizzman]

I love Record Breaker Force! I think CP was just going for the most records and tried to add some fun here and there. And they succeded! A fun, record breaking coaster!

 

ginzo; that's why I'm thrilled to have to opportunity to go back next year!

 

And aliston, seeing you are fairly new at posting here, I came in with the same opinion....but MF looks like it won't stand a chance to other Intamin monsters like Goliath, Maverick, Superman, and EGF. I couldn't believe there were other coasters better, but then I realized I hadn't been outside the Midwest

[saxman47]

I think MF is most definitely overrated. I have many friends who claim it is the bets coaster they have ever been on, and it seems that many enthusiasts rank it very highly as well. When I rode it I couldn't believe what had just happened....I didn't think it was that special at all. I gave it another try, but came to the same conclusion.

 

Call me crazy, but give me Maverick or Magnum anyday over MF. To each his own, I suppose.

[coasterfreak101]

Nitro. Stupid controlled airtime. Apollo had good airtime. But you didn't, did you?

 

Shame on you, Nitro, shame on you.

[Scaparri]

You guys have bashed pretty much every top 10 ride. Personally I don't know how anyone can say MF is overrated... compared to what?? Ive ridden most of the top 10 rides in the country and I can honestly say MF is the best -- by far. All these MF bashers are nuts!

 

I've ridden tons of coasters that aren't top 10 rides and can honestly say that MF is no way the best.

 

Yeah, MF is a great ride. I honestly really like it, but it is by no means the end-all-be-all of coasters. Once you get over the awesome drop and the speed, you start to realize how somewhat bland and not very intense it is. There is a ton of straight track, almost all the turns are very elongated with very gradual, smooth transitions, and the hills give 'floater air' at best, and that's on a good day.

 

Like I said, I really do love the ride. It's a great, 'fun' coaster. But at the end of the day, I can't say that it's better than all of the coasters I've been on that give ejector air, crazy intense g's and transitions, or an overall out-of-control ride.

[cycamps]

Raging Bull at Six Flags Great America. It's one of Amusement Today's top 20 steel coasters, but I don't think it's that great.

[PKI Jizzman]

Yeah, MF is a great ride. I honestly really like it, but it is by no means the end-all-be-all of coasters. Once you get over the awesome drop and the speed, you start to realize how somewhat bland and not very intense it is. There is a ton of straight track, almost all the turns are very elongated with very gradual, smooth transitions, and the hills give 'floater air' at best, and that's on a good day.

 

Like I said, I really do love the ride. It's a great, 'fun' coaster. But at the end of the day, I can't say that it's better than all of the coasters I've been on that give ejector air, crazy intense g's and transitions, or an overall out-of-control ride.

 

Yup, go on over to Maverick! Sometimes the lines were equal this year, but TTD was finaminal with keeping one of the shortest lines at CP.

[Erik Johnson]

For me it is probably Voyage or Storm Runner at Hersheypark. But, what do I know, I really liked MF.

[aliston]

You guys have bashed pretty much every top 10 ride. Personally I don't know how anyone can say MF is overrated... compared to what?? Ive ridden most of the top 10 rides in the country and I can honestly say MF is the best -- by far. All these MF bashers are nuts!

 

I've ridden tons of coasters that aren't top 10 rides and can honestly say that MF is no way the best.

 

Yeah, MF is a great ride. I honestly really like it, but it is by no means the end-all-be-all of coasters. Once you get over the awesome drop and the speed, you start to realize how somewhat bland and not very intense it is. There is a ton of straight track, almost all the turns are very elongated with very gradual, smooth transitions, and the hills give 'floater air' at best, and that's on a good day.

 

Like I said, I really do love the ride. It's a great, 'fun' coaster. But at the end of the day, I can't say that it's better than all of the coasters I've been on that give ejector air, crazy intense g's and transitions, or an overall out-of-control ride.

 

Once again... MF bashing with no substance. Which ride, specifically, are you proposing is "better" than MF? Of course, the "best" is subjective, but for me I really love the 'floater' nature of mf because its unique -- there aren't any rides than even come close to going around those curves at 90 mph 5 ft off the ground -- none. Now, I can see how someone with a different set of preferences might say another ride is more intense and therefore better for a different set of reasons, but I would submit that there is nothing that makes those rides unique. You can get intense anywhere. MF is the only true gigacoaster in the country...

[cycamps]

^I totally agree...

[ginzo]

Once again... MF bashing with no substance. Which ride, specifically, are you proposing is "better" than MF? Of course, the "best" is subjective, but for me I really love the 'floater' nature of mf because its unique -- there aren't any rides than even come close to going around those curves at 90 mph 5 ft off the ground -- none. Now, I can see how someone with a different set of preferences might say another ride is more intense and therefore better for a different set of reasons, but I would submit that there is nothing that makes those rides unique. You can get intense anywhere. MF is the only true gigacoaster in the country...

 

I can think of about 50 coasters that I like more than Millennium Force. Here are a few of them:

 

El Toro

Maverick

Phoenix

Nitro

 

Heck, I like CP's Wildcat more than MF. And I'm not making that up. MF is a snore fest that needs a lot more airtime.

 

Unique doesn't equal good. Son of Beast is unique.

[aliston]

Once again... MF bashing with no substance. Which ride, specifically, are you proposing is "better" than MF? Of course, the "best" is subjective, but for me I really love the 'floater' nature of mf because its unique -- there aren't any rides than even come close to going around those curves at 90 mph 5 ft off the ground -- none. Now, I can see how someone with a different set of preferences might say another ride is more intense and therefore better for a different set of reasons, but I would submit that there is nothing that makes those rides unique. You can get intense anywhere. MF is the only true gigacoaster in the country...

 

I can think of about 50 coasters that I like more than Millennium Force. Here are a few of them:

 

El Toro

Maverick

Phoenix

Nitro

 

Heck, I like CP's Wildcat more than MF. And I'm not making that up. MF is a snore fest that needs a lot more airtime.

 

Unique doesn't equal good. Son of Beast is unique.

 

First of all, 3 of the 4 coasters you listed aren't anything like millenium force and all 3 have comparable rides around the country except for Maverick (which I'll admit is a great ride, but not as good as MF) -- the only one that you can really compare is Nitro. And if you think Nitro is a better ride than MF... well, you lose all credibility right there. Just look at the speed MF carries through the first bank versus Nitro -- no comparison.

 

Second, if you want all your coasters to be the same then why even spend the time to travel to a place like great adventure when you can get the same ride at a local park? For instance, if I want to ride a ride similar to Nitro, I'll drive 15 minutes to magic mountain and ride Goliath.

[aliston]

And actually... after just watching the POV videos for MF versus Nitro, I dont see how you can possibly say nitro has more airtime... maybe POSSIBLY over the bunny hills at the end, but MF is WAY faster over the main hills than Nitro... go take a look on youtube if you don't believe me.

[coastrfreak2000]

^Have you ridden Nitro?

[Scaparri]

Once again... MF bashing with no substance.

 

What more substance do you want, other than specific rides which I'm about to give you? I mentioned specific characteristics (or lack there of) of the ride, i.e. straight track, lack of intensity, no airtime.

 

Which ride, specifically, are you proposing is "better" than MF?

 

Honestly, I have a lot of rides that I feel are better, but I'll name a few:

 

Phantom's Revenge. It has a crazy twisting first drop, followed by a 230 ft drop into a ravine, through a wooden coaster, then back through the same wooden coaster, and then through a series of bunny hops with downright violent airtime. That's my kind of ride.

 

Storm Runner is another. Intense launch, followed by a huge hill with a vertical drop, which goes into some of the most insane and unique inversions in the country.

 

Others include, but not limited to: Goliath (SFOG), Montu, Kumba, Dueling Dragons, Raptor, Maverick, and those are just some of the steel coasters.

 

...but for me I really love the 'floater' nature of mf because its unique -- there aren't any rides than even come close to going around those curves at 90 mph 5 ft off the ground -- none...

 

...MF is the only true gigacoaster in the country...

 

Yeah, I'll hand you that. As I said in my original post, I love the ride. I used to consider it to be my #1. But after I rode it enough times, the novelty of the speed and height wore off slightly and I realized that's about all it has going for it.

 

First of all, 3 of the 4 coasters you listed aren't anything like millenium force

 

It doesn't matter if they aren't anything like MF when you are arguing that there is no coaster better than it. Half of your argument is based around it's "uniqueness" anyway.

 

but MF is WAY faster over the main hills than Nitro... go take a look on youtube if you don't believe me.

 

First, MF only has three hills. Second, the speed over the hills doesn't make a lick of difference if the concavity of the hill crests is spread out enough.

 

...but I would submit that there is nothing that makes those rides unique....

 

To me, diving 230 ft into a ravine THROUGH a wooden coaster and then hugging the terrain (there's no 5ft to it, it's ON the ground) at 85 mph, before shooting back up through the woodie again is unique.

 

To me, getting launched out of my seat and getting whipped through an inline twist while mid-air is unique (the inline twist right before the unique snake dive on SR).

 

BUT, I'm going to call myself out. Those statements began with "To ME...", which brings me to my last point....

 

...Of course, the "best" is subjective...

 

...Now, I can see how someone with a different set of preferences might say another ride is more intense and therefore better for a different set of reasons...

 

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Everybody has their own preferences. A lot of people think I'm insane because I love Gwazi. To each his own. Anyway, I'm not trying to start anything. You wanted substance, and I gave substance. So maybe we should just agree to disagree.

[ginzo]

And actually... after just watching the POV videos for MF versus Nitro, I dont see how you can possibly say nitro has more airtime... maybe POSSIBLY over the bunny hills at the end, but MF is WAY faster over the main hills than Nitro... go take a look on youtube if you don't believe me.

 

Bwahahahahahaha. You're comparing the rides by watching POVs? Talk about losing credibility.

 

Ride Nitro, and then get back with me.

[PKI Jizzman]

Scaparri said everyone I was going to say.

 

And actually... after just watching the POV videos for MF versus Nitro, I dont see how you can possibly say nitro has more airtime... maybe POSSIBLY over the bunny hills at the end, but MF is WAY faster over the main hills than Nitro... go take a look on youtube if you don't believe me.

 

LOL! MF looks like the biggest POS on the POV. It looks like it will roll back on all the hills! I'd argue Nitro goes faster over them! But that's stupid and pointless!

 

 

Ginzo said SoB is unique..... Indeed it is...

 

 

Hmm...is all this Mil.F talk making any less Overrated?

[texcoaster]

For one, Alpengeist.

And heres another, S:ros at SFA.

 

I was expecting a crazy ride, I got a mediocre one.

The hills and speed are great, but the straight ways!

The layout: depart station, turn, lift, drop, turn, hill, long slope up, twenty minute helix, long straightway, hill, straightway again, ANOTHER helix, small dip, cork hill, two ejector bunny hills, brakes.

 

After the first helix they could've EASILY replaced the two straightways right there with a second hill. If they had done that, it would be a good ride. But like it is, its boring...

 

I freakin LOVE SROS at SFA and SFDL. Part of the reason I like them is the straightaways. I love coming out of the "twenty minute helix" and seeing that long flat track with that impossibly tall hill ahead. I think that after that bigass helix and all the straight track, there's NO WAY we're going to get over that hill coming up. I'm always wrong. We FLY over it like Superman leaping a tall building in a single bound.

 

True, the layout doesn't make a lot of sense from a pure "most bang for the buck" standpoint. They could've fit a lot more "action" in those straight sections... but then it would lose a lot of its charm, IMHO.

[texcoaster]

^^It finally got the hype it deserved, but last few years MF seemed to be the one that overshadowed it. Yea it gets some hype, but not nearly as much as MF or Expedition GeForce IMO.

 

The difference, though, is that Expedition GeForce actually lives up to the hype. It's the ONLY steelie to ever grace the #1 overall spot on my list. I never thought I'd see the day when I liked ANY steel coaster better than my favorite wood coaster, but EGF held that #1 spot until this summer.

[coasterdude28]

And actually... after just watching the POV videos for MF versus Nitro, I dont see how you can possibly say nitro has more airtime... maybe POSSIBLY over the bunny hills at the end, but MF is WAY faster over the main hills than Nitro... go take a look on youtube if you don't believe me.

 

You obviously don't know much about how airtime is generated. The speed of the coaster is only one factor in determining airtime. The size if the hill matters. The shape of the hill matters. The restraints matter. You can't just judge how much airtime a coaster has by watching the POV. Go ride Nitro, and then say it's airtime is not comparable to MF.

[DBru]

I have a few...

 

1.) Raptor: Everyone praises it as a GREAT inverted coaster, but I found it as very rough, jerky, and a sucky zero-g roll.

 

2.) Thunderhead: I just don't see why it is so hyped. I mean, the airtime is very limited and all it does is twist and turn. I also found the station fly-through to be completely pointless...

 

3.) The Beast: Not even in my top 25. I'm not a fan of brakes, roughness, and straight track. Yes, I know the helix is fun, but it is also painful and does not make up for the other 4 minutes of a lackluster ride!

 

But I find MF in no way overrated. The first drop, speed, and floater air are all just amazing! The over-banks are fun too!

 

Also, I rode TTD for the first time this summer, and it shocked me! Yes, it is a one trick pony, but the launch is the best I've experienced and the airtime coming over the top hat is awesome!

[exit english]

 

I freakin LOVE SROS at SFA and SFDL. Part of the reason I like them is the straightaways. .....

 

Right on, man. That's one of the biggest reasons I loved them (other than the fact that they're Intamin hypers:) ).

 

I especially like Darien's, because that straightaway is out over the water, and you feel like you're in the middle of nowhere, then BAM!

 

Totally freaking awesome. I need to go back up to DL this summer and get Jen on a kick ass Intamin hyper, especially now that she likes MF.

[the sound]

RITA, i don't understand the hype surrounding it. Sure, the launch was good, but otherwise it was really rough.