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Looks like it'll be at Kings Dominion and Dorney too. Wonder if it'll be a super-tame course with no actual jumps or wheelies like the monster truck ride along in Wildwood.

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I know it's beating a dead horse by this point, but I really hate Cedar Fair's fast lane system. More power to them for having it in place, but it makes the visit significantly worse for those who didn't purchase an add on to their ticket.

 

It would be like buying a ticket to a sporting or theater event that has an obstructed view and being told you could have a better view if you just purchase this add on to your ticket that costs more than your initial ticket did. You're still kind of having the experience, just something is there interfering with you fully enjoying the experience.

 

I know there are Fast Lane users here and I've got nothing against you, the system exists, and if you're willing to use it you should. My issue is just the way that it is implemented by Cedar Fair

 

::End Rant::

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^I mean... that's the entire point of Fast Lane. They want you to buy it.

 

I mean, non-obstructed seats at a show DO cost more...

True but my preference would be to go to a stadium where there aren't obstructed seats at all (continuing the sporting event example)

Like I said, no complaint to those who buy it, I just wish Cedar Fair would change how they run their system. I know however since they've done it like this it would be very difficult to do it any other way (not that they would actually want to).

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I just wish Cedar Fair would change how they run their system

 

Can I ask what you don't like about Cedar Fair's system? I don't have a ton of experience with line skip systems at different parks as I don't get to nearly as many parks as many of you do, but I like Cedar Fair's system. You're dumped in with everyone else before boarding so you don't have to steal someone's seat on the next train or have your seat stolen on the next train. I have had line skip passes in my pocket at my home six flags that i've just not used because I would rather wait an extra 10 or 15 minutes than feel like an ass. There's no signing in for your next ride or anything, just go in the dedicated entrance and then queue in the station or get bundled into the line with everyone else. Wish it was that way everywhere.

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I just wish Cedar Fair would change how they run their system

 

Can I ask what you don't like about Cedar Fair's system? I don't have a ton of experience with line skip systems at different parks as I don't get to nearly as many parks as many of you do, but I like Cedar Fair's system. You're dumped in with everyone else before boarding so you don't have to steal someone's seat on the next train or have your seat stolen on the next train. I have had line skip passes in my pocket at my home six flags that i've just not used because I would rather wait an extra 10 or 15 minutes than feel like an A$$. There's no signing in for your next ride or anything, just go in the dedicated entrance and then queue in the station or get bundled into the line with everyone else. Wish it was that way everywhere.

Here is the basic difference between the Sig Flags Flash Pass vs the Cedar Fair Fast Lane Plus

 

Fast Lane Plus:

Concept: Wait less (skip the line)

Unlimited Rides on everything

Wait depends on ride, normally about 20% of normal wait

Flash Pass:

Concept: Spend your wait time elsewhere

Only one ride on select attractions

 

(Other parks mainly have a much more restricted policy as to how many times you can use your "fast lane" style pass)

 

My issue with fast pass isn't that you can purchase a premium experience, it's that the premium experience directly effects the non premium visitors

This won't prevent me from visiting of course, it's just my minor annoyance that came out today as Cedar Point announced their plan to take your $200 season pass and encourage you to pay $800+ more for unlimited line skipping.

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The same thing happens with Six Flags, SEAS, or any other skip-the-line system. They're all designed to put the premium customers on the ride before the non-premium customers. Six Flags system doesn't require the same wait time (see the upper tiers of Flash Pass) or limit the rides on other than brand-new rides (which CF also does at some parks, see Volcano at KD until last year), and some skip the line systems put people up the exit ramp, which is inherently more "unfair" than the Cedar Fair system, which sometime has the merge points far back in the queue (see Millennium Force).

 

I get it that you have gripes about the "unfariness" of skip-the-line systems (I used to think the same way but nowadays can't be bothered with lines and bought the season Fast Lane at Kings Dominion), but don't see why CFs is any worse in your mind than any others.

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It would be like buying a ticket to a sporting or theater event that has an obstructed view and being told you could have a better view if you just purchase this add on to your ticket that costs more than your initial ticket did. You're still kind of having the experience, just something is there interfering with you fully enjoying the experience.

I feel like you just countered your own argument. Tickets closer to the action are generally more expensive than nose bleed seats. So you get what you pay for, right? I can think of endless examples of this.

 

True but my preference would be to go to a stadium where there aren't obstructed seats at all (continuing the sporting event example)

A sporting event where all seats are created equal. hmmmmmm... I like that idea. Luckily for you, Bernie Sanders is running for president again.

 

Six Flags' Flash Pass Premium is very similar to Fast Lane Plus. I've never waited longer than 5-10 minutes with it. It advertises that you skip 90%-95% of the line. I'm not sure if it's still in effect, but there was a time when you could have double rides. Even without that, you can reserve another ride immediately after entering the flash pass queue, having your next flash pass queue available by the time you get off of the ride. The difference seems negligible.

 

If you pay more, you get more. You're looking too much into it. Almost everyone knows that there are fast pass options available at parks. Everyone knows what they're getting into. Anyone with prior experience at any park should know that their going to have to take this into account. My only complaint is that they don't cost more, leaving me to wait in less lines for FL+...

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^ haha, no i understand that not all seats are created equal, but the person who pays for a sideline seat does not prevent the person farther away with a less expensive seat from seeing the game (I'm a Bills fan, you can still see the game great from the 300 level section)

 

Like I said just my opinion and I'm not against anyone who feels different

I'm just being grumpy I think haha

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From what I've noticed between Cedar Fair and Six Flags is that at Cedar Fair (especially Cedar Point) the fastlane lines are apt to back up a ton, causing for longish waits for fastlane and really screw the regular lines because then they're playing catchup with the Fastlane. I've never had that issue at Six Flags with flash pass. Seems that they're a lot better with keeping the Flash pass and regular lines completely independent of each other. Just my two cents.

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