vertigomkie Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I wonder if SFMM would ever relocate Scream to another Park in the Chain. I'm just curious because of its location, lack of major popularity, and lack of upkeep (paint). I know they are shooting for that number 20, but still curious about it. They'd do it if it was financially beneficial to the chain to do so. It takes a lot of money to move a coaster from one park to another. It would need to be a situation where a park needs a new coaster, but the chain won't pay to build one from scratch, and SF gets an amazing deal from whoever the freighter is. :cough: Six Flags did just take a 21 year-old 1st Gen. beemer and reopened it 800 miles east at SFA. Not that the move would ever happen, but Scream could easily be repackaged to benefit to SFA and SFStL (you could even find a way to put in into SFGAm or SFOT's collections). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeoplemoverMatt Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) ^They have had a few re-locations, but none from SFMM. It wasn't just coasters I was referring to. (you could even find a way to put in into SFGAm or SFOT's collections). You could but there has to be so much more to it than that. That's exactly what I was talking about Scream needing to be a big draw and it wouldn't be at those parks. People would yawn, roll over, and go ride SFGam's Goliath or SFOT's NTAG. That's not to say Scream wouldn't be a nice addition to either of those parks. It totally would be. But I don't think it would be enough of a draw as either park's *NEW FOR 2015* attraction to be worth the cost of moving the coaster. It's not like SFMM needs to cast it off because it's a maintenance nightmare. It's the complete opposite. Scream's worst failing is its location. Everything else about it is exactly what SFMM wants from a coaster. Edited January 14, 2014 by PeoplemoverMatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFChris Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 ^Care to share what you know? Or...... Been going to SFMM my whole life, and went to SFM twice last year, I didn't recognize any of the attractions down there as something that used to be at SFMM. I'd love to know so I can be all nostalgic and ride it when I'm there again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeoplemoverMatt Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 ^Care to share what you know? Or...... Been going to SFMM my whole life, and went to SFM twice last year, I didn't recognize any of the attractions down there as something that used to be at SFMM. I'd love to know so I can be all nostalgic and ride it when I'm there again. Batman Stunt Show off the top of my head. It was a few years ago now. Show's probably not running at SFM anymore. Back in the day people wondered where SFMM's Batman Show went and the answer that was given was Batman moved to Mexico. EDIT: Also had in mind SFDK's Big Spin which obviously wasn't SFMM but was a hand-me-down nevertheless. EDIT EDIT: To go back to Scream and its location...even Scream shouldn't be down there. That area is all backstage employee area. Scream and its entrance plaza are plopped literally right in the middle of it with walls trying to hide backstage from view. A couple main backstage access roads go directly under Scream, navigating through the footers. To be totally up front, I used to work in an office so close to Scream that my desk would shake whenever Scream cycled. So good luck seeing anything more built down by Scream's entrance. The space is already mostly occupied, even though that didn't stop Scream from being built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark549 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 SFMM under extreme fire danger warning, not uncommon in late summer but this is January. "Red Flag Warning." Does anyone know if wildfire has ever happened in the park? http://www.wunderground.com/news/california-records-highs-fire-danger-drought-20140113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyinpeace Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 ^There was a fire in the field directly besides Magic Mountain a few months ago, does anyone remember what cause it? I hope nothing escalates to an actual fire, it's winter for christ's sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 ^Winter in california has a higher fire danger, since there is a lot more dry and windy weather than typical cold winter weather! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerCoasterAwesome Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 ^There was a fire in the field directly besides Magic Mountain a few months ago, does anyone remember what cause it? I hope nothing escalates to an actual fire, it's winter for christ's sake! You mean the fire that was right behind Apocalypse (took this photo on June 2, 2013) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark549 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 ^Winter in california has a higher fire danger, since there is a lot more dry and windy weather than typical cold winter weather! This is the driest on record. http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/comment.html?entrynum=230 Driest Year on Record for California, Oregon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I agree that if Scream were to be relocated it would be for either SFA or SFStL. It was rumored that SFStL was going to receive Bizarro from SFGAd for 2013, so that makes it even more probable. I don't expect SFMM to get rid of Scream, at least anytime soon. I just think it would be the most likely one to remove due to its location, popularity, and overall appearance. And I do feel it would fit in much better at another Park. But with that being said, I'm sure we all know why SFMM installed Scream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyinpeace Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 ^Winter in california has a higher fire danger, since there is a lot more dry and windy weather than typical cold winter weather! Funny, I always thought we had fire threats in the fall. You learn something new everyday! You mean the fire that was right behind Apocalypse (took this photo on June 2, 2013) Ya, it's a good thing the fire didn't leap over the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Ya, it's a good thing the fire didn't leap over the road. That might be up for debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeoplemoverMatt Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Funny, I always thought we had fire threats in the fall. You learn something new everyday! No matter what time of year, there's always a fire danger here whenever warm weather mixes with dry brush and warm, gusty winds. SFMM sits at the base of a canyon, placing it in a permanent wind tunnel. It's always a prime target for potential brush fires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Maybe 2014 will finally be the year SFMM burns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster Rider Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Maybe 2014 will finally be the year Mean Streak burns. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yay101 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think Scream should go to Six Flags Over Texas. The reason I say that is because it would appeal to people going to those parks. Also, SFOT needs a good, solid looping coaster. Its two major coasters, Ntag and Titan, do not go upside down, and Mr. Freeze, Batman, and Shock Wave aren't "enough" when it comes to loops, and Mr. Freeze and Batman use other gimmicks (being inverted and being a shuttle loop) to characterize the ride. There needs to be a coaster that characterizes multiple inversions, if you know what I mean. I'm not sure where Scream would fit but I think SFOT is an ideal park for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy13 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Gotta love this speculation on where Scream should go when it's actually not going anywhere..... Also.... Did someone really just joke that they hoped a fire would burn down Magic Mountain? I know this site likes it's jokes and all, but does anyone else think that was a little bit over the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I know this site likes it's jokes and all, but does anyone else think that was a little bit over the top? Not really, no. They have insurance. Who knows maybe the fire will burn down some flat rides, leave empty concrete pads and save SFMM the hassle of doing that themselves. Oh... and we're also kidding. No need to act like you're offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeoplemoverMatt Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Mr. Freeze and Batman use other gimmicks (being inverted and being a shuttle loop) to characterize the ride. There needs to be a coaster that characterizes multiple inversions, if you know what I mean. If that's what you're going by, Scream is also gimmicky since it's a floorless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYZ Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Maybe 2014 will finally be the year SFMM burns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yay101 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Mr. Freeze and Batman use other gimmicks (being inverted and being a shuttle loop) to characterize the ride. There needs to be a coaster that characterizes multiple inversions, if you know what I mean. If that's what you're going by, Scream is also gimmicky since it's a floorless. Personally I think that while a floorless coaster is very gimmicky, I don't think it is as apparent as a inverted coaster or a shuttle loop (even though it is very apparent). It's gimmicky but not as much as inverted coasters or shuttle loops in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singemfrc Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I get how you could consider a shuttle loop as a gimmick, but inverted? Maybe it's just that between Vekoma and B&M inverted coasters are so prolific these days, it might have been a gimmick in the early 90s but I don't know how it can be considered one anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy13 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I know this site likes it's jokes and all, but does anyone else think that was a little bit over the top? Not really, no. They have insurance. Who knows maybe the fire will burn down some flat rides, leave empty concrete pads and save SFMM the hassle of doing that themselves. Oh... and we're also kidding. No need to act like you're offended. Knowing people who have lost their houses to fire (they had insurance too), fire just really isn't that funny to me. I personally love Magic Mountain. My son and I (single dad here) have been making yearly trips down there for the last 2 years, and it's been some of the best family time we've ever gotten together. He doesn't care about any of the shit everyone on here complains about, he just loves going on a bunch of rides with his dad. So, sorry to be the Debbie Downer here, but yeah, I just don't find jokes about fire burning down an amusement park very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeromyL Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 <~~~loves magic mountain too!!! (I'll be there on Sunday!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 <~~~loves magic mountain too!!! (I'll be there on Sunday!!!) Me too on both counts!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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