Canobie Coaster Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 Have any of the Over the Tops been successful? The one at the Island had the accident and this one hardly ran. They looked fun if they worked correctly and safely.
A.J. Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 As far as I know, those are (were) the only two installations.
coasterbill Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Apparently Knoebels did a presentation today at an enthusiast event and revealed that Over the Top is being replaced by a kids ride that looks like the flat ride version of an SBF spinner. More importantly, Downdraft is just being replaced with a newer model of the same ride (similar to what they did with Galleon).
A.J. Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 ^ The good news is that the manufacturer still makes the Downdraft, so Knoebels could also be taking it down and refurbishing it (old ride, new parts), or replacing it with an identical model. Called it! Do I get a cookie? As for the SBF ride, based on what Bill said, I think it's a Mini Break Dance, which debuted at the 2017 IAAPA Expo and was also at the 2018 expo.
CoasterAuditor Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 ^SBF VIsa must be very pleased they came up with one of the simplest coasters of all time that’s selling like a new Apple product.
Rai Fox Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 I feel a little bit bad for Knoebels, after all the excitement over Over the Top. There must have been something pretty terribly wrong with the design for them to give up on it like that. I don't know the business side of parks all that well, but I would think that under circumstances like that, they're probably getting their money back from the manufacturer? At least the new ride will likely be a big hit for kids. As far as Downdraft being replaced with a newer Downdraft...well, I love that ride, so I can't imagine a better ending than that, personally!
Canobie Coaster Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 I think I rode one of those mini break dances in Lake George, except it had OSTRs instead of lap bars. It looked like a kiddie ride because of the compactness, but it had some solid spinning because of the tight radius.
MisterBrow Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 Yay! Downdraft isn't dead NICE!!! Thank you for that news.
ScreaminNewEngland Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 I don't know the business side of parks all that well, but I would think that under circumstances like that, they're probably getting their money back from the manufacturer? At least the new ride will likely be a big hit for kids. As far as Downdraft being replaced with a newer Downdraft...well, I love that ride, so I can't imagine a better ending than that, personally! Over the Top was made by the same manufacturers of the new mini breakdance. (SBF Visa) I'm sure some type of agreement and "exchange" came out of that. As for Downdraft, I think its one of their best flats so I'm thrilled to hear its coming back. I am curious to see if this newer version is quieter.
A.J. Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 I am curious to see if this newer version is quieter. Don't you mean "HEAR"?!? Ah, wocka wocka!
Jason Maier Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 This year, I will also make it back to Knoebels for the first time since I was 11 or 12.
Myself Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 I wasn't at the presentation where the new rides were announced, so take the following with a grain of salt...apparently the new Downdraft may be in a different location. The Mini Breakdance is definitely going in Over the Top's spot, though. In addition, the potato cake stand is apparently relocating to the old boulevard through the park (possibly the old Downdraft spot, I'm guessing?) and the existing building will become group sales.
ScreaminNewEngland Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 Downdraft would be much better off in the back of the park. Wonder if they'd put it in the back field across from the over-the-top pad.
JG-77 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 Personally, I honestly don't care where it is as long as it's in the park.
ytterbiumanalyst Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 Downdraft would be much better off in the back of the park. Wonder if they'd put it in the back field across from the over-the-top pad. You say that like you think Knoebels has a plan for where they place rides.
prozach626 Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 They've got this. Knoebels will figure it out when the truck pulls up to unload the ride.
cal1br3tto Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 That Mini Break Dance seems pretty nifty. Considering I willingly rode a Rockin' Tug and a Frog Hopper last year, I would probably ride and enjoy this. Might take a few visits to Knoebels, though, considering I haven't even gotten to all their thrill rides...
larrygator Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 Might take a few visits to Knoebels, though, considering I haven't even gotten to all their thrill rides... You don''t have to ride each individual carousel horse!
cal1br3tto Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 ^Now you tell me... Although that'll never happen, anyway, since I only ride outside horses on the Grand Carousel.
Kw6sTheatee Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 I went to Knoebels in August 2017 (Favorite park of all time, by the way— I came in expecting a permanent fairground setup with some decent coasters and came out shocked) for around five hours, and I didn’t even visit Kiddieland with its extensive collection of rides or the Black Diamond area with the Mining Museum. Also, I am ashamed that I missed out on 3 sets of antique cars, as just two days post-Knoebels I started a love of antique cars after riding Blue Ridge Tollway at Kings Dominion. It’d be easy to spend an entire day at the park to be honest, and maybe check out the waterpark too, I know I would never be bored for a second.
JT325 Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 ^Plan to stay longer next time haha! I can go to Knoebels for 3 days and still want more. THAT is how an amusement park should feel. You might want to check out PPP (Phoenix Phall Phunfest) around the first weekend of October. Some coaster/park people complain it's overcrowded, but I disagree as they open the whole park up for it nowadays. I'll usually get there on Thursday and leave Monday. Great time! Or just go anytime and plan to spend a minimum of an entire open-close day. I have more fun on the skyride, skyslide and Satellite alone than I have at most "big" parks.
bert425 Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 ^Plan to stay longer next time haha! I can go to Knoebels for 3 days and still want more. THAT is how an amusement park should feel. You might want to check out PPP (Phoenix Phall Phunfest) around the first weekend of October. Some coaster/park people complain it's overcrowded, but I disagree as they open the whole park up for it nowadays. I'll usually get there on Thursday and leave Monday. Great time! Or just go anytime and plan to spend a minimum of an entire open-close day. I have more fun on the skyride, skyslide and Satellite alone than I have at most "big" parks. we did, I think 14+ hours on the TPR trip last year. . and it still wasn't enough.
JT325 Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 I can ride Skyride 3 times a day, easily. Almost everything needs about 3 rides a day. And that's not even getting to the food or just resting in the endless charm spots on the grounds. Or socializing if I'm there for PPP.
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