kidcoaster 2 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I'm assuming this will go where the turn around is in the parking lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
australianalex Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 It'll certainly be quite a sight when you drive in, that's for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I'm assuming this will go where the turn around is in the parking lot? That sucks. That hill looked to be quite full of the air time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFOGdude25 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 ^Hmm... I seem to have drawn the opposite conclusion. That hill looked really slow to me, and considering the fact that the train didn't even make it over the hill on one occasion, I say this is a welcome change. They're taking what was once the only dud and adding a crazy element to an already insane ride. The new and improved Hades will be straight-up chaos literally from start to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Mr Freeze is considered 1 inversion, well atleast by me. And Mr. Freeze is banked at 120°. After a bit of digging, I finally found my notes. Freeze was designed with a maximum bank angle of slightly more than 130° at the apex of that overbanked turn. Most of the turn is banked less severely, of course. As is the case with all of these maneuvers, it's only the maximum instantaneous bank angle that ever gets noted. This certainly wasn't the first time that a ride's advertised stats were a poor fit to its actual stats, but this case is a bit unusual because generally the numbers tend to get inflated rather than deflated... Interestingly - and I had completely forgotten about this - many people were calling that overbanked turn a "wingover" in the late 1990s. "Wingover" has a different generally accepted definition now. You there! Fetch me an onion for my belt! Well, this is what I found. www.ultimatecoaster.com/spring.asp?cid=746 www.guidetosfot.com/attractions/coasters/mrfreeze/ www.admiraldfw.com/specials/six-flags-package-2.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 ^We know Jeff will count it as a new credit!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadster Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Significant track layout change = new credit (Yes, I'm in the same group that JJ will be in on this one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Johnson Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 If you are one of the ones who counted Son if Beast as two different credits, then sure. I will still count it as one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odene497 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Aside from being ridiculously shaky, the air on Hades was nuts. It could be such an amazing ride. Barrel roll, new track and trains, and maybe a transfer area with a second train and it could be incredible. Although their whole "Don't ever want the possibility of a collision" might be a somewhat realistic statement considering their lethargic workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intaman Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I actually thought the Hades station was a library. Shhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Aside from being ridiculously shaky, the air on Hades was nuts. It could be such an amazing ride. Barrel roll, new track and trains, and maybe a transfer area with a second train and it could be incredible. Although their whole "Don't ever want the possibility of a collision" might be a somewhat realistic statement considering their lethargic workers. That's the thing. I was looking forward to this rode during the 2012 TPR Mid-America Trip, but it turned out to be a rather bone-jarring, painful disappointment. (Perhaps it's too big for its own good.) I agree that the potential is there for something great, but I think the ride will need plenty of TLC to keep it running well after this big overhaul. Is Mt. Olympus up to it? I guess we'll know in a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Johnson Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 ^ It ran quite well in the first year or two of operation. With that said, the turn around shortly after returning back from the second tunnel was quite rough. I am glad they decided to place the inversion to replace what I thought was the weakest section of the ride. I sure hope it will now retain most of it's speed after bolting out if the first tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 ^The tunnels were the best part in 2010. But getting to them . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFromMKE Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 That sucks. That hill looked to be quite full of the air time. I assure you the train crawled over that hill with very little airtime to be had. This should be a welcome change and help keep the pacing of the ride up through the whole circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyfairFan Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Is anyone else concerned that with only a 1.5 million dollar invest that the entire investment is going to just go towards the engineering and rebuild of the part of the ride with the inversion and that the rest of the ride will remain relatively untouched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topdrag Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 From what was said in the interviews with both Gravity Group and Nick himself they are going to be doing a lot of re-tracking as well. Their goal is to make the ride feel brand new with the new trains, lots of re-tracking and redesigned turnaround. Though I am sure there will be parts that are untouched but lets hope its only areas that did not have problems like the station and brakes area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GayCoasterGuy Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I have a feeling this was probably posted long ago, but here: Hades stalling - as it happens. Its funny to see the guy in the front seat with his hands up for a second after the trains stops. "Oh wait! The rides not moving." I guess I felt the same way on my one coaster 'rollback'. That hilltop definitely had a little boost of air time when it was new. Hopefully the Timberliner(singular!) train will in fact do what it was meant to do from the start - cut down on track wear. It's really a shame Mt. Olympus has such poor operations and what seems to be a *very* low maintenance budget. It really could be a spectacular park. Here's another video after they installed the American Eagle-esque "wings" (but Hades' are perfectly vertical with no angle.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywolf88 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Is anyone else concerned that with only a 1.5 million dollar invest that the entire investment is going to just go towards the engineering and rebuild of the part of the ride with the inversion and that the rest of the ride will remain relatively untouched? Actually 1.5 million might be enough for everything, given that the entirety of the voyage was only a 9 million dollar investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) Here's another video after they installed the American Eagle-esque "wings" (but Hades' are perfectly vertical with no angle.) Hmm . . . this reminds me of how they handled stuck coasters at small parks in China while TPR was there this year--only it would be just two park staff, at most, with a bamboo pole as a tool. Edited November 16, 2012 by cfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiSab Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Maybe its just me, but I really hope that parks won't feel pressured to build inverting wooden coasters from now on just to get recognition. It started with one, and now its expanding rapidly to other parks - I really hope it doesn't become a "requirement" for new woodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Farmer Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Maybe its just me, but I really hope that parks won't feel pressured to build inverting wooden coasters from now on just to get recognition. It started with one, and now its expanding rapidly to other parks - I really hope it doesn't become a "requirement" for new woodies. It's a gimmick that I hope is short lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I'm always pleased to see ride manufacturers trying something new--pushing the boundaries a bit. "Gimmick"? Maybe, but time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intaman Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I am intrigued by the addition of an inversion. However, I am more excited by the possibility of some TLC i.e. retracking and new trains. Now, I will need to find some time for a three and a half-hour trip to the Dells. Of course, I enjoy the Dells for its quirkiness, nostaligia, and timelessness, which basically means that I will also need to get my mini-golf game ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GayCoasterGuy Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 My last trip to Mt. Olympus resulted in us just leaving the park and backtracking to Great America. It's always a gamble going up there. A few trips on Cyclops is *usually* worth it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrider Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 We just took a trip out to Mt Olmpus park this summer, and I have to agree that the coasters need some TLC. You can view my trip report (with lots of pictures) here..... http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=63522&hilit=mt+olympus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now