Favorite attraction never made?

[cfc]

Disney's America that was proposed for Haymarket Virginia but got turn down from the locals. It was supposed to be themed and dedicated to U.S history. Also Marriott's third Great America that was supposed to be built near D.C. It's such a shame both never happened...

 

[attachment=0]Disney America Over View LG.png[/attachment]

 

Yes, locals were very much against Disney's America and felt that park would ruin the "historic" character of the Bull Run battlefield and the town of Manassas. Of course, now the area is covered with housing developments, suburban strip malls, and Cracker Barrel restaurants. Oh, well . . .

[Top Thrill Dragster]

The original idea for Disneyland's Indiana Jones.

 

The original plans called for Indiana Jones, Jungle Cruise, Disneyland Railroad, and Indiana Jones Mine Cart Coaster to be placed inside an indoor "land" with all four attractions interacting with each other.

 

 

 

 

Looks sooo freaking cool, too bad it wasn't built.

[Password121]

Supposedly Kingda Ka and El Toro were just phases one & two of a multi-year plan to overhaul every themed section of Great Adventure. If that park had even one more outline for something as groundbreaking as either of those rides then that takes my vote.

[805Andrew]

I had no idea that Disney wanted into the skiing world... This would have been interesting... What was the timeframe for this project? Since it seems like it faded after Walt's death, opening would have been in the mid 70's or so?

I think originally they were shooting for a 1973 opening. After Walt's death they decided to focus more on opening WDW, although Walt Disney was a multitasker and wanted to open both. They still wanted to build Mineral King, but the fight became harder after Walt's death and they ultimely gave up when Mineral King Basin was annexed into Sequoia National Park in 1978.

 

I'm just thinking along the lines of your comment about revolutionizing the ski industry... It would have had an impact, but to what extent I don't know... It's a cool little thing to think about though...

They are some cool innovations in the ski industry in recent years such as Whistler Blackcomb buiding a peak to peak gondola and Park City building a gondola connecting Park City Mountain Resort to The Canyons, and Squaw Valley is planning a gondola to connect it to Alpine Meadows, although we never know what Disney would have done to shake up the ski industry. My guess is the industry would have modernized a lot sooner then it did.

 

Disney's America that was proposed for Haymarket Virginia but got turn down from the locals. It was supposed to be themed and dedicated to U.S history. Also Marriott's third Great America that was supposed to be built near D.C. It's such a shame both never happened...

It would have been interesting to see how this turned out. I wonder what they would have done to make it a year round park with the colder winter temperatures (I'm not sure if it snows there in the winter). Its a shame it's strip malls and housing developments now. At least Mineral King Basin is still natural.

 

The original idea for Disneyland's Indiana Jones.

 

The original plans called for Indiana Jones, Jungle Cruise, Disneyland Railroad, and Indiana Jones Mine Cart Coaster to be placed inside an indoor "land" with all four attractions interacting with each other.

 

 

 

 

Looks sooo freaking cool, too bad it wasn't built.

Although a Mine Cart Coaster would have been cool, I'm very happy with how Indiana Jones Adventure turned out at Disneyland. I haven't seen an attraction as elaborate or as good as Indy added to Disneyland Park since then.

[Jew]

The Dick Tracy Crime Stoppers attraction looked cool. Indiana Jones ride vehicles+shooting dark ride!

[Keetz]

Supposedly Kingda Ka and El Toro were just phases one & two of a multi-year plan to overhaul every themed section of Great Adventure. If that park had even one more outline for something as groundbreaking as either of those rides then that takes my vote.

 

Really? I was a gadv pass holder from 2008-2011, but I haven't been to the park since. I'm making my return this summer, and I'm really curious to see just how much has changed. Golden Kingdom and Plaza del Carnival were both excellent when they first opened.

[SFOG1991]

Supposedly Kingda Ka and El Toro were just phases one & two of a multi-year plan to overhaul every themed section of Great Adventure. If that park had even one more outline for something as groundbreaking as either of those rides then that takes my vote.

 

Really? I was a gadv pass holder from 2008-2011, but I haven't been to the park since. I'm making my return this summer, and I'm really curious to see just how much has changed. Golden Kingdom and Plaza del Carnival were both excellent when they first opened.

The new safari tour is amazing and Rolling Thunder is gone. Not much else has changed that drastically.

[Password121]

Supposedly Kingda Ka and El Toro were just phases one & two of a multi-year plan to overhaul every themed section of Great Adventure. If that park had even one more outline for something as groundbreaking as either of those rides then that takes my vote.

 

Really? I was a gadv pass holder from 2008-2011, but I haven't been to the park since. I'm making my return this summer, and I'm really curious to see just how much has changed. Golden Kingdom and Plaza del Carnival were both excellent when they first opened.

That was under Premier ownership, which is long gone. Once Shapiro took over he scrapped all those plans for ride removals and budget conscious decisions. He actually tried to cancel El Toro, but (THANK GOD) it was just a tad too far into construction to cancel. Supposedly Premier had plans to continue expansion into 2007 and beyond but obviously that didn't happen.

 

The park isn't a whole lot different today than it was in 2011 but I don't think anyone would say it's considerably worse (I'd say the opposite actually).

[SFOG1991]

Supposedly Kingda Ka and El Toro were just phases one & two of a multi-year plan to overhaul every themed section of Great Adventure. If that park had even one more outline for something as groundbreaking as either of those rides then that takes my vote.

 

Really? I was a gadv pass holder from 2008-2011, but I haven't been to the park since. I'm making my return this summer, and I'm really curious to see just how much has changed. Golden Kingdom and Plaza del Carnival were both excellent when they first opened.

That was under Premier ownership, which is long gone. Once Shapiro took over he scrapped all those plans for ride removals and budget conscious decisions. He actually tried to cancel El Toro, but (THANK GOD) it was just a tad too far into construction to cancel. Supposedly Premier had plans to continue expansion into 2007 and beyond but obviously that didn't happen.

In an interview with the Atlanta Journal Constitution discussing and touring the construction of Goliath at SFOG, Shapiro made the direct statement "No more Goliaths" so yes El Toro was lucky to be built. Imagine not having El Toro...

[WOFanatic]

I had heard that before CF bought Worlds of Fun there were plans to build a wooden coaster themed to a vampire or something in the back of the park that would be similar to Raven at Holiday World.

[Nrthwnd]

There's a site called The Neverland Files that has a pretty extensive list of all the attractions, shops,

entertainment that Disney planned but never built. And of course, we DisneyParks Freeks all wanted these

attractions to come true, I'd say. Oh well. You never know when an abandoned attraction, gets new life in another form.

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20100528182108/http://www.theneverlandfiles.com/tnf/

Dragon Tower - the proposed coaster attraction for Beastley Kingdom. (or however it's spelt)

[coasterkid124]

As many on this site know, a few years ago Darien Lake proposed an RMC version of Predator. It never came to fruition due to the joint management of CNL and Herschend, and sort of fell through the cracks due to another change in management. Nobody is really sure how close the project was to happening, but the park went as far as getting approval from the planning board to do so.

 

There is still hope that something will happen to Predator, as it is getting worse by the year. Here is a picture of the guest survey that shown the proposal:

 

[Nrthwnd]

^ I'm not too sure what a "wing over drop" is, but I hope something

eventually comes to be about Predator, for you guys.

[coasterkid124]

^My assumption was that the wing over drop would have been an inverting one like the ones found on Medusa or Storm Chaser. Some others thought that it could be something like Gatekeepers. No renderings or layouts were ever released so it's hard to tell what some of the elements are.

 

Predator is actually a really good coaster, the roughness is the only reason why people hate it so much. The layout has so much potential, especially if RMC were to do something with it. Hopefully this management issue gets ironed out and one day Darien Lake might get a coaster to put it back on the map.

[Themonerd]

As many on this site know, a few years ago Darien Lake proposed an RMC version of Predator. It never came to fruition due to the joint management of CNL and Herschend, and sort of fell through the cracks due to another change in management. Nobody is really sure how close the project was to happening, but the park went as far as getting approval from the planning board to do so.

 

There is still hope that something will happen to Predator, as it is getting worse by the year. Here is a picture of the guest survey that shown the proposal:

 

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Dang,I knew it was cancelled, but I forgot all about that. Would've looked awesome.

[Nrthwnd]

...the roughness is the only reason why people hate it so much.

 

That actually probably covers a few hundred really good coasters around the world,

that have the same problem. Sadly, the situation isn't remedied soon enough for

many of them.

[TBpony414]

Disney's America that was proposed for Haymarket Virginia but got turn down from the locals. It was supposed to be themed and dedicated to U.S history. Also Marriott's third Great America that was supposed to be built near D.C. It's such a shame both never happened...

 

[attachment=0]Disney America Over View LG.png[/attachment]

 

Yes, locals were very much against Disney's America and felt that park would ruin the "historic" character of the Bull Run battlefield and the town of Manassas. Of course, now the area is covered with housing developments, suburban strip malls, and Cracker Barrel restaurants. Oh, well . . .

 

Spot on, Chuck. It's really sad what the area has become. Fortunately, the Manassas National Battlefield is still pristine when you're on the property. It's a shame everything else went to hell. Getting there is a combination of driving thru a Nascar race on the highway and a ghetto filled with endless strip malls. Bull Run park is equally beautiful but much smaller, even locals don't even know about it which is sad as it's only 3 miles down the road from Manassas Battlefield. "Bull Run is the place that has all those Christmas light decorations that you see from the highway..." "Oh YEAH! Wait, that's a park too?" My family was always for Disney building there as it meant lots of money with incentives to keep things looking nice. Nature took its course, or something like that, and the reality isn't quite what locals thought it'd be.

[I305forever]

I changed my mind. Fire Mountain would have been revolutionary. At least Dragon Tower turned into Dueling Dragons.

[cookiex]

Disney's America that was proposed for Haymarket Virginia but got turn down from the locals. It was supposed to be themed and dedicated to U.S history. Also Marriott's third Great America that was supposed to be built near D.C. It's such a shame both never happened...

 

Yes, locals were very much against Disney's America and felt that park would ruin the "historic" character of the Bull Run battlefield and the town of Manassas. Of course, now the area is covered with housing developments, suburban strip malls, and Cracker Barrel restaurants. Oh, well . . .

To be fair given the spectacular mess that was Disney's internal management in the mid- to late 90s (that led to the infamous Eisner micromanagement at the turn of the millennium) it's entirely possible that DA would have been cancelled even without the local opposition. Both WestCot and Port Disney were canned around the same time.

[Themonerd]

Disney's America that was proposed for Haymarket Virginia but got turn down from the locals. It was supposed to be themed and dedicated to U.S history. Also Marriott's third Great America that was supposed to be built near D.C. It's such a shame both never happened...

 

[attachment=0]Disney America Over View LG.png[/attachment]

 

Yes, locals were very much against Disney's America and felt that park would ruin the "historic" character of the Bull Run battlefield and the town of Manassas. Of course, now the area is covered with housing developments, suburban strip malls, and Cracker Barrel restaurants. Oh, well . . .

 

Spot on, Chuck. It's really sad what the area has become. Fortunately, the Manassas National Battlefield is still pristine when you're on the property. It's a shame everything else went to hell. Getting there is a combination of driving thru a Nascar race on the highway and a ghetto filled with endless strip malls. Bull Run park is equally beautiful but much smaller, even locals don't even know about it which is sad as it's only 3 miles down the road from Manassas Battlefield. "Bull Run is the place that has all those Christmas light decorations that you see from the highway..." "Oh YEAH! Wait, that's a park too?" My family was always for Disney building there as it meant lots of money with incentives to keep things looking nice. Nature took its course, or something like that, and the reality isn't quite what locals thought it'd be.

 

 

 

>Locals aren't happy with a theme park honoring american culture

> Are fine with a strip malls

 

 

 

 

Yeah.

[Themonerd]

Wow we've gone this long without mentioning project Gemini.

[cfc]

Disney's America that was proposed for Haymarket Virginia but got turn down from the locals. It was supposed to be themed and dedicated to U.S history. Also Marriott's third Great America that was supposed to be built near D.C. It's such a shame both never happened...

 

Yes, locals were very much against Disney's America and felt that park would ruin the "historic" character of the Bull Run battlefield and the town of Manassas. Of course, now the area is covered with housing developments, suburban strip malls, and Cracker Barrel restaurants. Oh, well . . .

To be fair given the spectacular mess that was Disney's internal management in the mid- to late 90s (that led to the infamous Eisner micromanagement at the turn of the millennium) it's entirely possible that DA would have been cancelled even without the local opposition. Both WestCot and Port Disney were canned around the same time.

 

I agree that even with local support, the Disney's America park wouldn't have been built.

Edited February 28, 2016 by cfc

[Rollercoaster Rider]

I had heard that before CF bought Worlds of Fun there were plans to build a wooden coaster themed to a vampire or something in the back of the park that would be similar to Raven at Holiday World.

 

 

I heard it was CCI Racing Wooden Coasters where Les Taxis' are.

 

 

 

Six Flags Connecticut

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/10/nyregion/six-flags-plans-to-build-a-200-acre-theme-park-near-foxwoods-casino.html

 

 

HARTFORD, July 9— The nation's second-largest theme park company announced today that it wanted to build a park on 200 acres that the Mashantucket Pequot Tribe owns seven miles from its Foxwoods Resort Casino.

 

The project could transform the little town of North Stonington, with a population of 5,000. It is the latest in a series of projects that have brought major economic change to southeastern Connecticut.

 

While officials of Six Flags Theme Parks Inc. have yet to offer details, they said the park would be comparable in size to Six Flags Great Adventure in Jackson, N.J. They estimated that the new park would attract two million visitors a year and create several thousand jobs.

 

Charles E. Elias, the First Selectman of North Stonington, said today that he favored the idea, though he agreed that it would generate opposition and would need to be reviewed.

 

"North Stogington is a typical small New England town," Mr. Elias said, after meeting this morning with Six Flags officials. "This project will basically bring the amount of development that we would expect to see over 30 years in about 30 months. It would be a major change in virtually the way all our departments and people function.

 

"A lot of citizens here are going to be very concerned about it," Mr. Elias added.

 

In recent years, the Pequot casino has become the nation's most profitable casino and the state's biggest tourist draw, attracting 20 million visitors last year. Another casino, operated by the Mohegan Tribe, is scheduled to open in nearby Montville in October.

 

Along with gambling, the area has the Mystic Aquarium, which is undergoing major renovations, and the Mystic Seaport, said to be the country's largest maritime museum, and several beaches.

 

"This is an ideal location for us," said William W. Moore, a senior vice president at Six Flags. "It's part of a region with a strong tourism base that has no big theme parks."

 

Six Flags, which operates 12 theme parks across the country, is jointly owned by Boston Ventures Inc., with a 51 percent stake in the company, and by Time Warner Inc, with the remaining 49 percent. This would be the first theme park that the company has built since 1972.

 

The deal hinges on approvals from state and local authorities. Mr. Moore said the lease would be for 35 years, but is not final until the company completes a series of studies. He declined to say how much the company would pay the Pequots.

 

The site, off Exit 92 of Interstate 95, has been intended for development since the 1960's, and in the 1980's another developer considered building an amusement park there.

 

Mr. Moore said the park would be completed in two to four years. He said it would incorporate characters from Warner Brothers cartoons and movies. It would be seasonal, open daily in the summer and on weekends in the fall and spring. It would be closed in winter.

 

Dean Pagani, a spokesman for Gov. John G. Rowland, said today that the Governor supports any economic development that creates jobs, though he said Mr. Rowland wanted to make sure that it met environmental and traffic laws, as well as the concerns of its neighbors.

 

The announcement comes four years after the state began an effort to increase tourism, enacting a $1 tax on car rentals to finance promotions. In the last three years, Connecticut has moved up to fifth most popular tourist destination for New Yorkers.

[SixFlagsAstroworld]

I'm going to continue. You guys probably seen concept sketches for both Gotham City at IOA and the original Dudley Do Right Ripsaw Falls (the one where your boat splits in half)

[John Peck]

I had looked forward to Old Indiana putting up the old Opryland Rides and for Premier to build the park up, but with the Six Flags purchase, that obviously didn't happen.

 

From Wikipedia:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Indiana_Fun_Park