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I actually didn't mind my last ride on Anaconda but you can only slap makeup on a pig for so long.


Also, Donkey--you seem awfully unequivocal in your statements on this thread.

"0% chance it's an Intamin"

"No way it will be a B&M flyer"


You come off very arrogant and off-putting. Unless you're privy to some inside information.


While I agree the likelihood of the two things listed is very low, crazier things have happened. I pretty much thought B&M flying coasters were dead but there are more of those being produced right now than wing riders for 2015 and 2016.

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El Toro type of ride or bust as i see it


I'd love to see an El Toro clone at KD. But you want to talk about a coaster type that's been trending downward in terms of being produced...

why is that


Because there hasn't been a new Intamin PreFab built since 2008 and I'm thinking that RMC is kind of filling in that niche. Especially when you look at how the stats of Wildfire are near El Toro-like in terms of speed and length.


KD rumor time-- I believe in the early 2000's KD had plans to build the world's longest wooden coaster. Maybe if the park were to ever return to this idea they'd go with Intamin. The park did work with Intamin on I305 and I guess it's possible they might want to stick with them for a project that big. The world's longest wood coaster plans are probably long dead though as I think it would have gone where I305 currently stands.

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A flyer is not very likely. It is ten times as likely as a hyper though.


Probably. I was mainly trying to see what people in this thread would prefer--flying or wing rider.

I think I've posted my pipe dream about a B&M flyer taking the place of Anaconda 4 or 5 times in this thread.

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^Perhaps because they haven't built one since El Toro?


That being said, I'd love to see more Intamin woodies along the lines of El Toro and Balder.


You and me both! I know that RMC has really become the go-to name in wooden coasters as of late, but I would really like to see more El Toro's out there. My hope is still that somebody (preferably CP, since they could use it and are my most frequently attended park) will get and El Toro-esque wooden coaster, but with just 20 more feet, to snag the wooden height title, and cross that mythical 200 foot mark for a wooden coaster. While SOB turned out to be what its initials can also refer to, I have no doubt that a coaster of that height can be viable, done correctly. Ever since El Toro, I've thought an Intamin Pre-Fab would be the best way to do just that...

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Maybe if the park were to ever return to this idea they'd go with Intamin. The park did work with Intamin on I305 and I guess it's possible they might want to stick with them for a project that big.


Park chains are taking a break from Intamin. I don't think that we'll see another major project from them for at least a few years. Remember that their last big coaster in the US was Skyrush, and that was already 3 years ago. Until Intamin can iron out their issues, B&M has proven to build reliable, efficient rides.


It is a shame, but I'm sure that they will make a comeback. They're still busy making a handful of coasters every year in Europe, and it seems like every year we've heard less and less about any major breakdowns from them.

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Shockwave was fun too. The last turn around before the brakes was the only brutal part. Loved the air time and the loop was very forceful. Operations were fine, better than apocalypse and green lantern. The line was overflowing all day, but it moved right along. Everyone seemed to really enjoy it.


Apacolypse and lantern were the only two stand ups that I have gone on before this, I found this to be better than both.


I hit up SFGAdv yesterday for the first time in decades, and gave Green Lantern a whirl... while I felt that it was a better ride overall than Shockwave, it was still pretty unpleasant with a lot of headbanging and discomfort. I think I may just have to resign myself to the fact that standers and me do not get along.

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All standups and flyers are the devil's coasters in my opinion. Not the largest fan.


I hope a flyer never makes its way to Virginia... although it has been a long-term rumor for BGW to get one eventually.


I believe KD's next coaster in 2016/2017 will be less 'generic' than many are speculating.

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I think I've posted my pipe dream about a B&M flyer taking the place of Anaconda 4 or 5 times in this thread.


I get that a lot of enthusiasts hate Arrows, but I'd rather see Anaconda stay and have another coaster interact with it. It's a huge lake, and Anaconda doesn't really take up much space of it. I suppose that's an even bigger pipe dream than it being replaced with a flyer though! I really don't find Anaconda a bad ride except the jerk between the two helix's. People talk about how weird getting into the corkscrews is, but that's how 100% of Arrows enter their corkscrews. They just carbon copied the elements coaster to coaster.

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Kings Dominion:

I'll give it to you short, this is my new favorite park. This is one of the cleaniest, nicest, most well-rounded park that I have been to. All the rides were great and very well maintained, the employees were efficient and friendly and the park had some unique features.


Score Card:


Intimidator 305: 8x

Flight of Fear: 6x

Volcano: 4x

Dominator: 3x

Backlot Stunt Coaster: 4x

Anaconda: 1x

Grizzly: 4x

Rebel Yell: 2x

Woodstock Express: 1x

Drop Tower: 4x

Log Flume: 2x

Hurler: 1x

Windseeker: 1x

Bad Apple: 1x

Shockwave: 1x


I305: I need to talk about this first. It smashed it's way up to my #1 spot. This ride is INSANE. Everything about it, from the first drop, to the airtime to the ridiculous turns that pull some serious G's. I could go on forever. I love the whole NASCAR style on this ride, it's crazy fast, smooth and such a fun ride. I have never seen the general public be so excited for a coaster before, everyone waiting in line and on the ride was cheering and shouting with excitement. The op's were just fantastic. Out last ride of the night was at 10pm, we watched the fireworks launch off as we got ready for the drop. I would walk back to Virginia to ride this again if I had to. 10/10 (it deserves higher)


Volcano: God was this thing incredible too! The two launches were super fast and insanely forceful! The loops gave some crazy hangtime and the drop into the volcano at the end was awesome! Volcano is byfar the park's most popular ride. There was a two hour wait for the thing all day! (Thanks fastlane plus!) Overall the theme to the ride was top notch. 10/10



The best wooden coaster in the park! Loved this ride, tons of airtime, great tunnel and very very deep in the woods. I loved the seclusion of the ride, it was the parks hidden gem. Wasn't rough and was a very enjoyable ride. The line never got out of the station for it, the entrance is hidden behind a gift shop. Not sure why they don't have a bigger sign to get people over there, they're missing out! 9.5/10




I was having a hard time deciding which is better, Kraken or Dominator. My last ride of the night detirmined my choice, and it was Dominator. This is such a unique B&M. It's actually fast and forceful, unlike others.......(BMDK, Bizarro, Hydra) The ride is butter smooth and with three trains, the line moves quick. My favorite part is the sharp turn after the big vertical loop. Loved it all. 10/10


Avalanche: This was a really cool ride. More of a family/lovers ride. Fun turns, especially when it gets up to full speed. This ride also had three trains, but the queue still overflowed. Thanks again fastlane! 8/10


Anaconda: Next up was this beast. We sat in the back row. Once we hit the brake run, we both looked at each other in surprise. "I don't get it". What is so bad about this ride? It's Butter smooth compared to Canobie Corkscrew! Realy no head banging at all and it was a very fun, re-ridable coaster. I loved the location, the tunnel into the loops was awesome. The butterfly loop was strange but unique. I actually liked the slow corkscrews. It was like going in slowmotion upsidedown, with tons of hangtime. It was also pulling a huge line all day, bigger than most of the other rides, which was great to see. I'd say that FOF, I305, Volcano, Shockwave and Anaconda were their most popular rides of the day. Great ride and very underrated. 8.5/10


Flight of Fear: Best themed ride of the trip hands down. The station was so awesome looking, the aliens were creepy looking and the audio just sold the whole thing. The launch was noticeably faster and smoother than Joker's Jinx. A very disorienting first half with the three inversions into tight twists. The trim at the top wasn't bad, It was nice to take everything in. I just wish there was a big UFO above the brake, that would be the icing on the cake. The second half starts a tad slower than Joker but ends just as forceful. Overrall it was better than Joker and is now one of my favorite indoor coasters. (Mummy is still my #1) 9/10


Woodstock Express: Very fun, well kept family coaster with fun airtime in the back. The ride ops were spectacular on this one. For what it is I give it an 8/10


Bad Apple: Very fun Trokia. This is my third one so far, and it's most likely the best. Palace Playland in Maine has a great one too. But this had a very long ride cycle and it was running well. 9/10


Drop Tower: Tied with Demon Drop as my favorite freefall. Love this one, the capacity on it is insane. I like how it doesn't brake until the very bottom. It's really the only ride in the park that needs a new paint job though. 10/10


Backlot Stunt Coaster: A big surprise of the trip, very awesome little coaster. The launch was not that fast but it throws you into some sharp spirals that pull some serious G's. Awesome drops and dips, the theming was great, all the props worked. The water was even on at the very end of the ride. I really liked the indoor section. 9/10


Rebel Yell:

My first actual racing coaster! (Dueling Dragons is much different) I really loved the airtime on this, you were out of your seat the entire time. It was hard to notice because you kept looking back at the other train. I give the park props for taking the time and effort to race the two sides, yet still do it efficiently. There were four trains on the ride so fast lane wasn't even needed. 8.5/10


Hurler: Wayne's World!!! Well, what's left of it atleast. Now the station just looks like an eyesoar and the chainlinked fencing doesn't make sense. The ride itself was......interesting. The track layout is just bizzare but it actually had some decent airtime. In order to appreciate the airtime, you had to look past the horrible first turn after the drop. That is one of the most brutal turns in coaster history. I wish they would retrack it so it is more on an angle. It's so rough, but after that the rides pretty decent. Still doesn't help it from being the worst coaster in the park. 7/10


Shockwave: Enthusists. Are. Babbies. After all the coasters that I rode this weekend, especially the ones that get hated on for being too rough (Grizzly, Anaconda, Shockwave, Batwing) I have come to beleive that people just like to complain. I found shockwave to be superfun. Much much better than that B&M horror show over in Maryland. Even better than that snoozefest in Jersey. I will admit, the restraints are really bizarre, but not as uncomftorable as Apocolypse. The drop into the loop was very forceful and actually a lot of fun. The airtime hill right after turned out to have some great air, not bad at all. The helix had a slight jolt in the middle but was also pretty good. The airtime after was not "ball busting" at all. It was the last turnaround that was the brutal part. My body was not preppared for that. But then you get a couple nice hops and into the brakes. I found it to be really fun. Everyone in the station seemd to love it and everyone on facebook is devistated to see it go. The ride had a line out into the midway all day long. And opperations were good on it! It took us about 20-25 minutes to get on from the bottom of the ramp. (begining of queue). I am happy to say that Shockwave was my 100th coaster but I am sad to see it go, it's very rare now. Hopefully it goes somewhere close-by. 8/10



We walked into Soak City around 6-630, so we could avoid the big lines. Wow that was a mistake. The waterpark was overcrowded just like Dorney's was when we went. Hunter and I just walked around, check out the new slides in the back and walked back out. The waterpark itself is nothing special, we already did Snake Pit at Dorney so there was no need to wait for it. Pipeline Peak and Baja Bends looked like their best slides. I loved the "deep woods" feel to it though. They just need to keep expanding.


The fastlane plus was a life saver. We lapped I305 and FOF at the end of the night. I really wish they had more rides on it though, like Shockwave, some water slides, the Crypt and especially Anaconda. Hopefully they add more soon. But all in all, this park is amazing and I am going to try and make it a yearly stop.

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Shockwave: Enthusists. Are. Babbies. After all the coasters that I rode this weekend, especially the ones that get hated on for being too rough (Grizzly, Anaconda, Shockwave, Batwing) I have come to beleive that people just like to complain. I found shockwave to be superfun. Much much better than that B&M horror show over in Maryland. Even better than that snoozefest in Jersey.


I wanted to say that, but didn't. Currently at 6 rides since the announcement and not done.

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Love the TR. Im glad kd is staying busy with loads of guests. I think it truly means a new coaster is on it's way very soon. Cedar Fair has been so great for the park. Very successful indeed. Tell all your friends and family about your kd experience too lol

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As someone who had never been to Kings Dominion before, I had heard all about Shockwave and I found all of the complaints to be unfounded. Little rattle in the transitions but it wasn't terrible. I'd ride it 10 times in a row before I walk on Hurler ever again. It does have a lot more bite than Green Lantern at Great Adventure regardless of what it looks like. Green Lantern is too tame.

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My biggest complaint for Shockwave is the restraints. It was fine for me when I was 12 and thin. Not so much when you're 6'2 and 275 lbs.


As I mentioned earlier, I was really surprised by my last ride on Anaconda. It's moved up in my rankings from horrible and headache-inducing to merely mediocre and tolerable.

I have a fond memory of going to KD on opening day with my friends in 1991 to be among the first to ride that sucker in the rain. I guess I liked it more than other Arrow loopers I rode last year like CP's Corkscrew (backbreaking), Vortex (rough as all hell), and Demon (headbanging). I also rode Viper at SFMM and that one wasn't too bad either. At least, not as bad as those others.

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