KDCOASTERFAN Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 This coaster is pretty much SFA's new coaster. People from this site already said that its most likely going to be a stand-up coaster, well guess what SFA already got approved to build in the park in 1999, A STAND-UP COASTER! Here's a quote from washingtonpost.com Plans include a stand-up roller coaster, a 200-foot-high steel roller coaster, a runaway car ride, a water ride, a 120-foot-high Ferris wheel and an indoor roller coaster on which riders would remain in the dark. The nature of a seventh new attraction has not been determined. -The 200 ft coaster is Superman -The water ride is Penguin's Blizzard River But we still havent received the rest of the approved attractions. I'm hoping that GADV's ferris wheel is not leaving that park and coming to SFA as the approved 120 ft ferris wheel. (if its not 120 ft then whoops lol, dont know how tall that thing is) Here's the link, Washingtonpost.com I think a B&M stand-up is perfect for a HUGE announcement the park has yet to announce. It's a good theory, don't get me wrong, but it also doesn't mention Batwing at all. So, you could be right, and this could be the "Fabled Stand-up Coaster of Six Flags America" But, that stand-up could have been changed to a Vekoma "lay-down" coaster. So you could be right, and that article does make a very good argument,(EDIT:) and the seventh attraction could be Batwing The proposed stand up for SFA was dropped in favor of Batwing only because KD no longer wanted the ride thanks to CGA's model being a disappointment,they both had the same attraction # on the list & were listed as attraction # 37.SFI has LONG since abandoned that proposed site plan for SFA that was proposed ten years ago so this mystery B&M is not heading to MD. that's for sure. Besides if this were a project for SFA then track would've been delivered last fall.Going by previous experience with the park I know that track for superman arrived in the fall of 99 & that was a large scale project for them in terms of the amount of track needed for the ride & Batwing's track began arriving in early december,2000 just before the ride recieved county approval for construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFAfan#1 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 ^Do you know that for sure? Who knows, Batwing could have been the mystery 7th attraction. If SFA get this track now, I'm sure they could have this coaster up by Memorial Day, or early June. Considering that SFA doesn't do themeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajinaz Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 ^ Must clean screen now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitalize Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 This coaster is pretty much SFA's new coaster. People from this site already said that its most likely going to be a stand-up coaster, well guess what SFA already got approved to build in the park in 1999, A STAND-UP COASTER! Here's a quote from washingtonpost.com Plans include a stand-up roller coaster, a 200-foot-high steel roller coaster, a runaway car ride, a water ride, a 120-foot-high Ferris wheel and an indoor roller coaster on which riders would remain in the dark. The nature of a seventh new attraction has not been determined. -The 200 ft coaster is Superman -The water ride is Penguin's Blizzard River But we still havent received the rest of the approved attractions. I'm hoping that GADV's ferris wheel is not leaving that park and coming to SFA as the approved 120 ft ferris wheel. (if its not 120 ft then whoops lol, dont know how tall that thing is) Here's the link, Washingtonpost.com I think a B&M stand-up is perfect for a HUGE announcement the park has yet to announce. SFA did receive the ferris wheel, its the small balloon one next to the water park at the front of the park. Based on my understanding the stand-up was dropped (as mentioned). But who knows, that could be neat... Although very unlikely, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Austin Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 In my opinion, SFA have a hell of a lot else to sort out before they should even consider investing in a new coaster of any sort, especially a B&M. SFA have about as much chance of getting this coaster as Blackpool has at getting that launched coaster that people have been going on about for years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDCOASTERFAN Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 ^Do you know that for sure? Who knows, Batwing could have been the mystery 7th attraction. If SFA get this track now, I'm sure they could have this coaster up by Memorial Day, or early June. Considering that SFA doesn't do themeing. Yes,I do as a matter of fact as back in 2000 I had a friend make a print out of the zoning board review for Batwing & while they never mentioned the project as anything but the 2001 coaster at that point it had the same ID number as the originally proposed and approved stand up coaster...attraction # 37. Attraction #36 on that list is still undetermined(not that current management is even following that outdated site plan) whereas PBR was the LAST theme park ride they installed some 6 years ago...since then it's been nothing but SFGRADV,SFMM & SFGRAM getting the bulk of the new rides every season. Edit: The balloon ferris wheel has been there since the Adventure World era so the 120 ft. ferris wheel,along with the remaining rides on that list have long since been abandoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisChavan Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 LOL! No offense, dude, but you do realize this EXACT same thing, with pictures and all, was posted about 10 pages ago. Welcome to the conversation Sherlock Holmes! --Robb I know. I read the entire thread from the beginning. I was just reiterating all of the confusion that was cluttering the thread with a concise photo analysis of various track types. Sorry to offend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I think I may have found the abbreviation for floorless: rcdb.com/ig2169.htm?picture=1 It's not on an official label, but whoever inspected this piece labeled it as F-6405-ST4, which leads me to believe that "F" means floorless and thus rules out the possibility that our mystery track is for a floorless coaster, since it starts with "SC". So to update the list: Hyper - MC Inverted - IC Dive Machine - DM Flying - LC Floorless - F? Stand-up - ? Sitting - ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgeguy Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I think you may be right. Maybe stand-ups would be just SU and sit-downs are SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchboogie3 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 It could be, but wouldn't they follow the pattern and use the abbreviation FC instead of just F? MC - Mega Coaster DM - Dive Machine LC - Laying Down Coaster IC - Inverted Coaster SC - Sitting Coaster? so FC - Floorless Coaster EDIT: I'm now pretty sure that picture doesn't denote "F" as the abbreviation for Floorless Coaster. I just took a look at the "track element" codes and they all seem to share a similar pattern. Mystery Coaster: SC-R00-TE062 Dive Coaster: DM-E00-TE002 Patriot: IC- E00-TE003 Crystal Wings: LC-E00-TE015 Now if you look at the Lift Hill picture from Batman: The Dark Knight, there are similarities to the Scream picture you posted. I believe that because this is a non-element track piece, it would have a much different labeling, likely not denoting the type of coaster (such as the L denoting lift element on B:TDK). http://rcdb.com/ig1549.htm?picture=6 If you bunch up the numbers like in that picture, you get Batman Lift Element: L21-012-L2 Scream Number: F64-055-T4 I'm not sure what the F stands for, but I think the T stands for Transfer track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterking2981 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I'm probably going to be wrong on this, but what about SeaWorld San Diego? Yeah, I know a B&M wouldnt be the first choice given the amount of space available, but I heard they were supposed to get a new coaster this year, but with the current Busch management problems the plans were put on hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca_boy69 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Well... Stand up Coasters were before Sit-Downs for B&M. So they would have been assigned the SC Label first? And I Would of thought that Sit Downs could be called Looping? But it can't have LC because Flying Coasters already got that. Hmmm, i think we are getting warm. and we will fiure it out later. Robby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgeguy Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 It could be, but wouldn't they follow the pattern and use the abbreviation FC instead of just F?MC - Mega Coaster DM - Dive Machine LC - Laying Down Coaster IC - Inverted Coaster SC - Sitting Coaster? so FC - Floorless Coaster EDIT: I'm now pretty sure that picture doesn't denote "F" as the abbreviation for Floorless Coaster. I just took a look at the "track element" codes and they all seem to share a similar pattern. Mystery Coaster: SC-R00-TE062 Dive Coaster: DM-E00-TE002 Patriot: IC- E00-TE003 Crystal Wings: LC-E00-TE015 Now if you look at the Lift Hill picture from Batman: The Dark Knight, there are similarities to the Scream picture you posted. I believe that because this is a non-element track piece, it would have a much different labeling, likely not denoting the type of coaster (such as the L denoting lift element on B:TDK). http://rcdb.com/ig1549.htm?picture=6 If you bunch up the numbers like in that picture, you get Batman Lift Element: L21-012-L2 Scream Number: F64-055-T4 I'm not sure what the F stands for, but I think the T stands for Transfer track. I just noticed something else in the part number codes. Notice the "TE062." Could that mean the number following "TE" could represent the track sequence number? Like Track Element 62, meaning it's the 62nd piece when putting it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Flags Enthuseast Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I know what B&M is doing! I'm guessing with how painfull the last B&M Standup coasters were (especially Mantis) that they may have developed a new kind of train. Maybe they took a few years off of selling them and decided to develop the trains so the weren't as painful, and they are sending it to a test place called X-Works. Though the X-works thing is a bit unlikely, I hope they may have developed a better train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electerik Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 ^ Well, you do bring up a good point, in that most of us have been assuming that this is something we've seen before. I suppose it could be a totally new kind of train. /Bring on the spinning B&M! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Flags Enthuseast Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 ^OMG!! BEST!! COASTER!! (Biggest possible font) EVER!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumba830 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Bring on the spinning B&M! Will it be Elissa friendly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I know what B&M is doing! I'm guessing with how painfull the last B&M Standup coasters were (especially Mantis) that they may have developed a new kind of train. Maybe they took a few years off of selling them and decided to develop the trains so the weren't as painful, and they are sending it to a test place called X-Works. Though the X-works thing is a bit unlikely, I hope they may have developed a better train. I thought this is what we decided X-works means: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Works I just noticed something else in the part number codes. Notice the "TE062." Could that mean the number following "TE" could represent the track sequence number? Like Track Element 62, meaning it's the 62nd piece when putting it together. I noticed that, too, but we can't be sure till we know what the middle part of the code means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsPlusNotes Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Not my photo, had it saved from years ago - this is Talon's sticker. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyweird Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 ^What part of the ride is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDCOASTERFAN Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 All of the elements after the lift seem to be listed simply as "track element" while,as shown in the B:TDK pic that lifthill segments have the listing simply as "lift element". I'm fairly confident that this is a standard looping model & not a standup but that still doesn't solve the mystery of just where this ride is going unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4rturo Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 "Like Track Element 62, meaning it's the 62nd piece when putting it together" bgeguy That can't be it because: "The final three pieces of track are expected to be installed early next week. Pieces #119 and #120 will be placed after the second helix heading into the splashdown with piece #129 going in just before the breakrun heading into the station" KI This means that the pieces are not installed in that kind of order, unless KI likes to disobey the rules!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchboogie3 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 "Like Track Element 62, meaning it's the 62nd piece when putting it together" bgeguy That can't be it because: "The final three pieces of track are expected to be installed early next week. Pieces #119 and #120 will be placed after the second helix heading into the splashdown with piece #129 going in just before the breakrun heading into the station" KI This means that the pieces are not installed in that kind of order, unless KI likes to disobey the rules!! No, that does make sense. Pieces #119 and #120 were next to each other, right before the splash down and piece #129 was right after the splash down, connecting it to the brake run. They are sequential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgeguy Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 ^^Not every coaster is completely constructed in the exact order. They usually start with the final brakes and station, then go to the lift. Then it can go anywhere. But, the final pieces on Diamondback were still in sequential order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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