PKI Jizzman Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Until they add something else, I'd only say KI is worth going to on either A) A dead day during the week in spring B) During Halloween Haunt. C) Whenever TPR friends are in town If we do get a Leviathan 2.0 in 2014 I'm hoping it will be worth it. I'd rather have a Rocky Mountain Coaster. Not that there's anything wrong with giant B&M's; I love Raging Bull, SFOG's Goliath, and Diamondback all about the same. I recognize the differences but really they're all about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koasterking48 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I would actually love to see a 350-400 ft traditional roller coaster hit SOME park in the near future. We can't be that far away from seeing it, can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfreak101 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 ^It's not that it's infeasible it's just that, if you think about it, Leviathan cost $28 million and it barely breaks 300 feet. Intimidator cost $25 million, but the only reason it can do that and offer a relatively long ride duration is because it stays low to the ground, so it minimizes the number of supports and foundations needed. A taller ride is going to be tougher to keep low to the ground with forces in check (I305 had a lot of wheel problems because of that first turn) but it's also going to be even more expensive to build if it's got traditional airtime hills like a B&M. TL;DR a part needs to be willing to plop down over $30 million on a single roller coaster, and we'll see it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koasterking48 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 ^ I definitely see cost being a huge issue. I would say at a minimum we are looking at 30-50 million on this ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Apparently Kings Islands Action Zone water tower is being removed to go to Jungle Jim's Eastgate. Link to the page http://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151225235216409&set=a.317810731408.157193.313135991408&type=1&theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Curt Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Planning on going to Kings Island this year, is it still worth it? LOL, this made me laugh. Sorry. the park hasn't lost anything, go have a good time. Son of Beast was closed for a long time anyways. I was hoping to get at least someone to laugh . We are going ths year no matter what, ride coasters none of us has been on before so really looking forward to a day at Kings Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonsaiisuperstar Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Anyone look at Son of Beast merchandise prices on eBay? Through the roof! It's like it's the Bat or something. Posters selling for $80 and pins going for $40! I'm glad i bought the bolt and piece of track package when King's Island offered them in super limited numbers. Wonder what it's worth?? I bet it can pull $1000 easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koasterking48 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Ok, so Screamscape is really pushing for an B&M Invert in 2014. If it were "Super-Sized" would you think that means Alpengeist-size or would it be a little bit smaller like Montu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11slataus Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Personally, I think another Alpengeist-sized B&M invert would be great, but I'd want it to have more forces than Alpengeist. Judging by B&M's recent creations, a forceful invert may be out of the picture. But a big invert would still be fun, think of a full circuit hyper invert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyRush Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) I know this might sound bizarre, however, what if one day B&M creates the Inverted Wing-Rider? EDIT IN FAVOR OF THE FORUM AN INVERTED WING-COASTER Edited February 5, 2013 by TyRush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRHcoasterki Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 ^Wing Coaster Wing Coaster Wing COASTER!!!!!!! Intamin's winged seat design is called "Wing Rider", B&M's winged seat design is called Wing Coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacoaster09 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Personally, I think another Alpengeist-sized B&M invert would be great, but I'd want it to have more forces than Alpengeist. Judging by B&M's recent creations, a forceful invert may be out of the picture. But a big invert would still be fun, think of a full circuit hyper invert! I would be in AWE. I have said I want to see the day when we get inverted coaster to take that record from Alpengeist and go over 200ft. It would be a hyper (albeit inverted) with inversions. I also would love to see a Intamin Pre Fab. However, I think a B&M dive coaster would be the absolute best fit. That space just screams Dive Coaster to me... I already have the layout in my head. 2014 will make 9 years since Sheikra, I would thank that any such (rumored) exclusivity deal with B&M over Dive Coasters should be null and void by now. How about a mixture of the two... an inverted Dive Coaster... Where the cliff hanger drop is a take from the wing-over drop on wing coasters. After cresting the top of the lift the track rolls over into a dive but there's there cliff hanger mechanism to hold the car at the edge of the drop. Therefore riders aboard the inverted coaster train are hanging upside while looking near 90 degrees straight down for the few seconds before the mechanism releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYZ Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Personally, I think another Alpengeist-sized B&M invert would be great, but I'd want it to have more forces than Alpengeist. Judging by B&M's recent creations, a forceful invert may be out of the picture. But a big invert would still be fun, think of a full circuit hyper invert! I would be in AWE. I have said I want to see the day when we get inverted coaster to take that record from Alpengeist and go over 200ft. It would be a hyper (albeit inverted) with inversions. I always have wanted to see a B&M hyperinvert! (Probably why Mr. Bolliger didn't answer that hyper coaster with inversions question. ) How about a mixture of the two... an inverted Dive Coaster... Where the cliff hanger drop is a take from the wing-over drop on wing coasters. After cresting the top of the lift the track rolls over into a dive but there's there cliff hanger mechanism to hold the car at the edge of the drop. Therefore riders aboard the inverted coaster train are hanging upside while looking near 90 degrees straight down for the few seconds before the mechanism releases. Sounds nauseating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomman295 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 This may sound a bit off topic, but I'm dying to know: Which seat is the best for Diamondback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 This may sound a bit off topic, but I'm dying to know: Which seat is the best for Diamondback? I'm either front seat with the hang time on the top of the lift hill or the insane over the lift hill yank in the back seat but IMO back seat air time beats front seat hangtime and floater air. But one con to the back seat is the terrible B&M vibration after the hammerhead before the trim brake hill. Ask me anytime because I go to KI lots of times. -Joshua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingwright Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 ^Wing Coaster Wing Coaster Wing COASTER!!!!!!! Intamin's winged seat design is called "Wing Rider", B&M's winged seat design is called Wing Coaster. Do you also object to using "Tylenol", "Kleenex" and "Chap Stick"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyRush Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 ^Wing Coaster Wing Coaster Wing COASTER!!!!!!! Intamin's winged seat design is called "Wing Rider", B&M's winged seat design is called Wing Coaster. Okay okay okay okay!!! Relax! My bad! An Inverted Wing Coaster!!! Wouldn't that be cool, although its probably not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 An Inverted Wing Coaster!!! Wouldn't that be cool, although its probably not going to happen. It is a bit impractical, I think. Every support would have to look like this one - This support doesn't look as strong as a typical inverted coaster support. But, what do I know? If Kings Island puts in an Inverted coaster similar to Alpengeist (or Pyrenees), I will probably go there right away to ride it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacoaster09 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 An inverted Wing coaster is kind of redundant being that it changes nothing about ride experience since you ride on the outside of the track. Also wing coasters have riders level with the track so I mean...... I guess my question is WHY? What's the need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRHcoasterki Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 ^^^ LOL, I was being annoying on purpose. Hence the, Although, I have to admit it does annoy me when people mix up Wingrider and Wing Coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyRush Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 ^^Yea thats the only thing I think would not make it happen, Supports. It would be difficut to engineer ones with proper strength. My comment was just think about how crazy that could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal1br3tto Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Anyone look at Son of Beast merchandise prices on eBay? Through the roof! It's like it's the Bat or something. Posters selling for $80 and pins going for $40! I'm glad i bought the bolt and piece of track package when King's Island offered them in super limited numbers. Wonder what it's worth?? I bet it can pull $1000 easily. Hmm. I have a Kings Island shot glass that is clearly meant to represent Son of Beast, but doesn't label it as such. I wonder if that would hold any value to some fanboy out there? Someone is also trying to sell a Son of Beast shirt for a ridiculously insane price ($125+), even though there's an identical one offered at $19.95+ that actually has a bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koasterking48 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) If B&M could incorporate some of the wing coasters' near misses with an invert larger than Alpengeist, I may consider more than one visit to KI next year Edited February 21, 2013 by Koasterking48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I just read this but Hanks back porch is being remade into "Christian Moerlein Bier Garten". And their actually giving it a German theme AND German food! Its nice to see something German going into Octoberfest! The Construction photo. Link to page:http://www.visitkingsisland.com/blog-article/online-fun/Kings-Island-Photo-of-the-Day-2-21-13-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lareson Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Wondering if they're going to put a decent canopy over the seating area. I know when I visited the park this year, we had a rainstorm come rolling in and tried to stand over there, but there was no cover besides over the bar and over the fish feeding areas! That side of the park always looked a bit shabby and its nice to see that they're sprucing it up and bringing in the German flair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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