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P. 157: Kangaroo returning for the 2022 season!

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Quick questions about Phantom Fright Nights...

A) Do they do any of the "vip tours" (just seems like a 1 time fast pass for a group of rides?) for the regular rides during the night?

B) Do they offer any sort of quick pass for the haunted houses / mazes?

 

I'll only be able to attend on a Saturday for Fright Nights, and I have a feeling I won't be able to get in everything I want unless they offer something during this time. I haven't been to the park in several years.

 

Thanks!

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Thanks for the info. I'm going to the park tomorrow... decided it would be best since there is no way i would get everything done on a fright night even with VIP tours.

 

Any food recommendations? (Other than potato patch :-P)

 

Hope you enjoyed the visit today. I was there myself and it was a nice day. Weather was a tad warm but otherwise perfect. Crowd wasn't too bad either.

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Pitt Fall had maintenance issues. I do miss it, but Black Widow is an awesome replacement in my opinion so I can't complain. What don't you like about Widow? Have you ridden it? I think it's much better than the Huss version.

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Black Widow's combo if height and ride duration makes it FAR superior to the HUSS Frisbee as well as the makers IMO. It got on the ride expecting it to be a fun ride like the others I've been on, but I was blown away. The airtime was in a whole different ballpark, and the ride just...kept...going!!! It was absolutely amazing. I seriously think the ride was about 4 minutes long from start to finish. It's my favorite flat ride next to Intamin drop towers/Indiana Jones/well themed dark rides.

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^I know this is going to sound really lame, but do you have to go under or near that giant Black Widow to get onto the ride? Because anything that is as good or better than maXair, I would LOVE to ride! But I don't know if I could bring myself to get near that giant spider!

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How ridiculous, that I would ride a thousand foot, beyond vertical drop coaster, with 20 inversions, without batting an eye, but I don't want to walk near a giant spider I know is fake!

 

For you.....

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Kidding aside, Black Widow really is a phenomenal ride, and to me a far better ride than Pitt Fall ever was (and don't get me wrong, I really liked Pitt Fall when it was there!) My only honest beef with it is the ridiculous wait times for it. I've seen fairly minimal lines on it still take 60+ minutes, which is a tad crazy. Part of it, I think, is the ride system, as it seems to be almost overly sensitive. But in all honesty, the park could benefit from seeing how Cedar Point manages the line for an almost identical ride (maXair). They assign numbers, and have a "waiting pen" for the next cycle of riders. It keeps that line really moving. Kennywood's line management for Widow is more like "organized chaos", as people don't seem to know where to go or what to do. I heard rumors that they tried handing out "seat cards" at points this year, but they were not in use the times I visited the park, so who knows.

 

It's a shame really, as like I said, the ride itself is top notch and fantastic! But I've probably only ridden it maybe 4-5 times since its installation, mostly because I don't want to commit 90 minutes waiting in a line that should maybe take a third of that time.

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Kidding aside, Black Widow really is a phenomenal ride, and to me a far better ride than Pitt Fall ever was (and don't get me wrong, I really liked Pitt Fall when it was there!) My only honest beef with it is the ridiculous wait times for it. I've seen fairly minimal lines on it still take 60+ minutes, which is a tad crazy. Part of it, I think, is the ride system, as it seems to be almost overly sensitive. But in all honesty, the park could benefit from seeing how Cedar Point manages the line for an almost identical ride (maXair). They assign numbers, and have a "waiting pen" for the next cycle of riders. It keeps that line really moving. Kennywood's line management for Widow is more like "organized chaos", as people don't seem to know where to go or what to do. I heard rumors that they tried handing out "seat cards" at points this year, but they were not in use the times I visited the park, so who knows.

 

It's a shame really, as like I said, the ride itself is top notch and fantastic! But I've probably only ridden it maybe 4-5 times since its installation, mostly because I don't want to commit 90 minutes waiting in a line that should maybe take a third of that time.

 

Kennywood's a great park, but their operations have not been their strong point the last few years in my experience. Last time I rode Black Widow (multiple times in the day, and the same thing happening every time) they just could not handle counting out the correct number of people to let into the ride at once. Nearly every single cycle there were people circling the ride trying to find open seats when they were all taken. I realize it can be tough to count people all crowded together, rushing into a ride, but they did this again and again and again, and often several people over, not just one extra. Every time, the ride ops reacted with complete confusion. It's just not that difficult, is it?

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^You fiend!

 

Honestly, I love these kind of rides, and Black Widow looks great! So, I'm just going to have to face my irrational fear, and... wear a blindfold until I get on the ride!

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Although defunct, Pitt Fall continues to be my favorite drop ride. When it first opened, it was seriously intimidating. In 1997, when Intamin first gens were still the norm, 251 feet was unthinkable. "How long do you stay up there?" was a real game people would play in line, staring straight up and counting seconds out loud. The drop was surprising and gut-tickling fun, but some people thought it was just unnerving. From my observation, the popularity of it really died down over the years. On busy days with queue lines spilling onto the midways, Pitt Fall would seem oddly deserted. Whoever mentioned maintenance issues is right, too. With only two sides operating, five-minute waits ballooned to 30-40 minutes, with the ride sometimes dispatching with only five people on it.

 

Black Widow is not my thing, but it's a tremendous and forceful ride. The long cycles and spinning, which are virtues to many, make me "RCT-green-face" in a hurry (same for the Huss versions), but I've ridden it multiple times with Dramamine. Fast, disorienting, and absolutely wild. Several of my friends who were scared off by Pitt Fall think that Black Widow is the best ride in the park. I concur that the loading/unloading is slow and can play out like musical chairs. I've seen people get assigned correctly, only to watch them get split up by joggers who stampede around the ring and go into the seat-picking business for themselves. If everyone is orderly, it's not so bad. Although I've already called an early retirement from it, it's a real solid thrill ride - maybe Zamperla's best creation?

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