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Ednor at La Ronde

 

Everything after the lift removed and replaced with smooth B&M Track back to the station (Clearly the worst SLC I've been on.)

So just scrap it & go ride Vampire then?... Or build another B&M?

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Put steel wheels on Goliath at SFGAm and watch how fast the train files through the course.

 

You do realize there is a reason why the wheels aren't steel, right?

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Put steel wheels on Goliath at SFGAm and watch how fast the train files through the course.

 

You do realize there is a reason why the wheels aren't steel, right?

 

 

Oh I do, only for sound restrictions and length reasons I believe. I just don't like the idea of a controlled feeling wooden roller coaster. Not saying I like rough wooden roller coasters, but I would prefer something of what I think my first ride on Outlaw Run will be like when I hopefully ride it next summer.

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^Rides are built to run a certain way. Tatsu had to switch to a new type of wheel (can't remember which kind specifically) during testing due to it going over speed. Even though it was a minimal over-speed, the ride had to perform exactly how it was designed to run or else everything would need to be re-calculated. Goliath was designed to provide X amount of forces here with X amount of speed there. Change the materials, and you could end up with something different. Why would a park want to pay for something that isn't even accurate? Of course parks could work with the ride's manufacturer to enhance the ride by proving small changes such as wheel design. But then you end up with a coaster doing something greater than what it was designed for, which ultimately results in upping the maintenance.

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^ I realize this. Sometimes changing the material becomes a necessity, especially when those polyurethane wheels start tearing up consistently, much like what was seen during the morning sometime on Goliath's Media Day if I remember correctly. Europa Park had to switch the side wheels on Wodan from polyurethane to steel, because while the bouncing of the Millennium Flyer trains through the course is minimal compared to PTC's, it was still too much for those Polyurethane Wheels to handle. I believe if RMC and GCI had went with the style of polyurethane wheels that Intamin uses, I don't think they would have such problems with the wheels tearing up. I believe Intamin uses the same ones you would find on most steel coasters, while RMC and GCI have used ones that sorta look like steel wheels.

 

Realistically, Goliath was designed with relatively low forces, so it probably wouldn't be affected that much by switching some of the wheel assembly (mostly the side wheels) over from Polyurethane to steel, much like Wodan. Now if they went with full steel wheels, they would have needed another 1000 feet of track. I get that it won't happen, but I would probably enjoy it much more if had steel wheels, but that's just me.

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^ I realize this. Sometimes changing the material becomes a necessity, especially when those polyurethane wheels start tearing up consistently, much like what was seen during the morning sometime on Goliath's Media Day if I remember correctly. Europa Park had to switch the side wheels on Wodan from polyurethane to steel, because while the bouncing of the Millennium Flyer trains through the course is minimal compared to PTC's, it was still too much for those Polyurethane Wheels to handle. I believe if RMC and GCI had went with the style of polyurethane wheels that Intamin uses, I don't think they would have such problems with the wheels tearing up. I believe Intamin uses the same ones you would find on most steel coasters, while RMC and GCI have used ones that sorta look like steel wheels.

 

Realistically, Goliath was designed with relatively low forces, so it probably wouldn't be affected that much by switching some of the wheel assembly (mostly the side wheels) over from Polyurethane to steel, much like Wodan. Now if they went with full steel wheels, they would have needed another 1000 feet of track. I get that it won't happen, but I would probably enjoy it much more if had steel wheels, but that's just me.

 

 

Another 1,000ft of RMC Hills and turns? I'm all for that.

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I'd modify the height of Millennium Force so that it is slightly taller than Steel Dragon 2000 (it only needs to be a about ten feet taller), so that it can be the new record holder for tallest, non-launching roller coaster. Cedar Fair could go about this by saying that they are going to replace the lift hill supports with nicer-looking supports like those found on Inimidator 305 and during that process, raise the lift hill height. This may also raise its max speed and could take that record, also (again, for non-launching roller coasters).

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^If I had to change Millennium Force, I would lower the parallel airtime hills each by about 20 feet. It's still a great ride, but making those two hills serious ejector hills would be awesome.

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^That would be nice. However, if I really wanted to make it better I would either scrap the backwards launch or make it happen right after the train stopped to avoid that pace killing pause and then, after the "top hat" I would maybe add an eight shaped section with airtime hills crossing in the middle, like skyrush's first half and then the brakes.

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...I would make the helix after the airtime hill on Fury a bit tighter than it currently is. That helix is the only real weak point on what's otherwise a phenomenal ride.

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Verbolten

 

A Few Camelbacks and S-Turns before the Building

 

The main thing would be to take some of the brakes off the "bridge" so it hits the finale harder. Lame effect.

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- Restraints on Magnum XL

- Restraints on Skyrush

- Replace the helix at the end of Gatekeeper with an airtime hill or heartline roll

- Replace the lift hill at the end of Powder Keg with an overbanked turn into the final drop

- Make the S&S Free Flyers flip more

- Add at least one or two more hills to Beast

- Add another inversion to the Superman flyer clones

- Remove trim brakes on Wandering Steer to make it Raging Bull again

- Extend Phoenix by another 3200 feet

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