canadianparkfan Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Ednor at La Ronde Everything after the lift removed and replaced with smooth B&M Track back to the station (Clearly the worst SLC I've been on.) So just scrap it & go ride Vampire then?... Or build another B&M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid124 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Turn one of Superman Ride of Steels helix es into an over banked turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillseeker4552 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 ^To add on to that, the long straightaway after the first helix on both models should be replaced with a small speed hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 ^&^^ i agree, so much wasted track on that ride could've been so much more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster Rider Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hades360 Move the coaster about 110-150 miles to a park in Green Bay so it can be maintained properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Put steel wheels on Goliath at SFGAm and watch how fast the train files through the course. You do realize there is a reason why the wheels aren't steel, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnastyGnoric7 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Steepen Silver Bullet's first drop to about 50 to 55 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightypotato Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I'd lighten the MCBR on SFMM's Goliath. Not by a lot, but at least so you can some kick-ass positive g's in the helix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster Rider Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Verbolten A Few Camelbacks and S-Turns before the Building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravity55 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Put steel wheels on Goliath at SFGAm and watch how fast the train files through the course. You do realize there is a reason why the wheels aren't steel, right? Oh I do, only for sound restrictions and length reasons I believe. I just don't like the idea of a controlled feeling wooden roller coaster. Not saying I like rough wooden roller coasters, but I would prefer something of what I think my first ride on Outlaw Run will be like when I hopefully ride it next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 ^Rides are built to run a certain way. Tatsu had to switch to a new type of wheel (can't remember which kind specifically) during testing due to it going over speed. Even though it was a minimal over-speed, the ride had to perform exactly how it was designed to run or else everything would need to be re-calculated. Goliath was designed to provide X amount of forces here with X amount of speed there. Change the materials, and you could end up with something different. Why would a park want to pay for something that isn't even accurate? Of course parks could work with the ride's manufacturer to enhance the ride by proving small changes such as wheel design. But then you end up with a coaster doing something greater than what it was designed for, which ultimately results in upping the maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravity55 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 ^ I realize this. Sometimes changing the material becomes a necessity, especially when those polyurethane wheels start tearing up consistently, much like what was seen during the morning sometime on Goliath's Media Day if I remember correctly. Europa Park had to switch the side wheels on Wodan from polyurethane to steel, because while the bouncing of the Millennium Flyer trains through the course is minimal compared to PTC's, it was still too much for those Polyurethane Wheels to handle. I believe if RMC and GCI had went with the style of polyurethane wheels that Intamin uses, I don't think they would have such problems with the wheels tearing up. I believe Intamin uses the same ones you would find on most steel coasters, while RMC and GCI have used ones that sorta look like steel wheels. Realistically, Goliath was designed with relatively low forces, so it probably wouldn't be affected that much by switching some of the wheel assembly (mostly the side wheels) over from Polyurethane to steel, much like Wodan. Now if they went with full steel wheels, they would have needed another 1000 feet of track. I get that it won't happen, but I would probably enjoy it much more if had steel wheels, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster Rider Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 ^ I realize this. Sometimes changing the material becomes a necessity, especially when those polyurethane wheels start tearing up consistently, much like what was seen during the morning sometime on Goliath's Media Day if I remember correctly. Europa Park had to switch the side wheels on Wodan from polyurethane to steel, because while the bouncing of the Millennium Flyer trains through the course is minimal compared to PTC's, it was still too much for those Polyurethane Wheels to handle. I believe if RMC and GCI had went with the style of polyurethane wheels that Intamin uses, I don't think they would have such problems with the wheels tearing up. I believe Intamin uses the same ones you would find on most steel coasters, while RMC and GCI have used ones that sorta look like steel wheels. Realistically, Goliath was designed with relatively low forces, so it probably wouldn't be affected that much by switching some of the wheel assembly (mostly the side wheels) over from Polyurethane to steel, much like Wodan. Now if they went with full steel wheels, they would have needed another 1000 feet of track. I get that it won't happen, but I would probably enjoy it much more if had steel wheels, but that's just me. Another 1,000ft of RMC Hills and turns? I'm all for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpengeist04 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I would change everything back to the original Superman:ROS at SFNE. ...Starting with the damn trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackdude101 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I'd modify the height of Millennium Force so that it is slightly taller than Steel Dragon 2000 (it only needs to be a about ten feet taller), so that it can be the new record holder for tallest, non-launching roller coaster. Cedar Fair could go about this by saying that they are going to replace the lift hill supports with nicer-looking supports like those found on Inimidator 305 and during that process, raise the lift hill height. This may also raise its max speed and could take that record, also (again, for non-launching roller coasters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillseeker4552 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 ^If I had to change Millennium Force, I would lower the parallel airtime hills each by about 20 feet. It's still a great ride, but making those two hills serious ejector hills would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster Rider Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Make the brakes on Throttle De La Full after the camelback instead of on the way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 ^That would be nice. However, if I really wanted to make it better I would either scrap the backwards launch or make it happen right after the train stopped to avoid that pace killing pause and then, after the "top hat" I would maybe add an eight shaped section with airtime hills crossing in the middle, like skyrush's first half and then the brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF15 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 ...I would make the helix after the airtime hill on Fury a bit tighter than it currently is. That helix is the only real weak point on what's otherwise a phenomenal ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_s Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Verbolten A Few Camelbacks and S-Turns before the Building The main thing would be to take some of the brakes off the "bridge" so it hits the finale harder. Lame effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mater Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I'd change Stealth's two corkscrews at the end to two outside facing rolls, then end with a helix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angle O. Descent Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 - Restraints on Magnum XL - Restraints on Skyrush - Replace the helix at the end of Gatekeeper with an airtime hill or heartline roll - Replace the lift hill at the end of Powder Keg with an overbanked turn into the final drop - Make the S&S Free Flyers flip more - Add at least one or two more hills to Beast - Add another inversion to the Superman flyer clones - Remove trim brakes on Wandering Steer to make it Raging Bull again - Extend Phoenix by another 3200 feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro1118 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I would turn KK's spiral drop into a simple turn and drop like Xcelerator. It would greatly enhance the sensation of the drop and airtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I'd "fix" Titan at SFOT's MCBR. You know, back to the good ole' days when it didn't come to a complete stop on the MCBR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9Armgeddon4 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I would extend Demon and bring back the two bunny hills that were removed for the loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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