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I think the way Cedar Fair treats Cedar Point they will probably get the first Cedar Fair RMC hybrid. Cedar Point is always getting lots of big roller coasters, and Cedar Fair basically spoils Cedar Point considering how parks like Michigan's Adventure have not gotten a new coaster in 7 years, and that was a used Vekoma SLC! I am complaining too much since my home park is Canada's Wonderland which is not that neglected.

I get the feeling you think Cedar Fair shares all of the profits made by individual parks. While it is a large corporation, the parks still operate separately. The money Cedar Point makes goes to Cedar Point, and that's it. Michigan's Adventure is having trouble because it is not as popular. Simple as that. The corporation helps with operating the parks the same and sharing ideas between them, that's for sure, but in the end, each park makes their own decisions and their own money.

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^Michigan's Adventure isn't really having issues at all in most respects, it has the highest profit margin in the chain and attendance has been up. In that sense, it would make sense not to build a really large ride until attendance starts to slip and/or enough money is saved up. Afterall, they're still riding the Thunderhawk wave (yes, I know it was relocated but it increased attendance significantly in 2007 and has been up ever since...even through the downturn).

 

You are correct in the sense that each park operates independently. Each park literally "has their own account". Just don't go to the Facebook pages for the parks because they'll point out about how "The money made at Michigan's Adventure must go to Cedar Point then" . Corporate planning for the parks is great and there is a lot of experience there. Essentially, the General Managers do have quite a bit of say on what can come to the parks now from what has been stated. It passes through corporate and the planning department works with each individual park to figure out the details of the next project. It's a really good system.

 

As for Mean Streak, I had the same feeling when I was there last weekend for the final rides on Mantis. Don't get me wrong, the ride was surprisingly more smooth than I have remembered it being in years. I actually enjoyed it more than usual. But, the transformation of Mantis kind of moves in to show that the park and chain aren't afraid to change things up to make rides declining in ridership a bit more popular.

 

Mantis, in my opinion, wasn't so bad of a stand-up coaster (and was a lot more comfortable when wearing jeans ), but, no doubt, that Rougarou will be popular. It will have the pull of a new coaster and ridership will be high. Not to mention, capacity will be too (now that three trains will be back to running). Loading and unloading also won't take as long as on the stand-up version. While it won't be too terribly of an expensive renovation, Mean Streak more so would be. It will be interesting to see how this goes.

 

If the closing photo booths are any signs, Mantis & Mean Streak have had theirs closed for awhile

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^There's a ride planned for Orlando in 2016 over 500 feet, so....

 

This is true. However it is not a coaster where you experience a 500' drop or speed. It a coaster that is built up instead of out.

 

Cedar point was not the First 400' coaster, they were the first 400' full Circuit coaster.

 

I still think that 500' needs to be broke where you at least feel the speed. I don't know, but I do think it was said perfectly that whatever it is, is something we won't know. I do believe Cedar Point has something huge planed, they already have plans for their 150, what it is will be the game for awhile.

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^There's a ride planned for Orlando in 2016 over 500 feet, so....

 

This is true. However it is not a coaster where you experience a 500' drop or speed. It a coaster that is built up instead of out.

 

Cedar point was not the First 400' coaster, they were the first 400' full Circuit coaster.

 

I still think that 500' needs to be broke where you at least feel the speed. I don't know, but I do think it was said perfectly that whatever it is, is something we won't know. I do believe Cedar Point has something huge planed, they already have plans for their 150, what it is will be the game for awhile.

 

It is just going to be a Polercoaster. The ride is just a large tower with twist but no big drops 500ft down.

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I think that in the next few years Cedar Point will turn Mean Streak into a hybrid coaster because now that is the only rough ride.

 

Part of me hopes Cedar Point never does anything with Mean Streak just because it's fun watching enthusiasts bitch about it and act like it's one of the worst coasters they've ever ridden. The ride's not good by any stretch of the imagination but there are a ton of rides out there that are far worse. People only complain about it so much because it's at Cedar Point and it takes up a ton of room.

 

Fun Fact: If you ride in the front and lean forward with your back off the seat back the ride is much smoother than Blue Streak (though it's a stupid way to ride a coaster). it's still boring, and Blue Streak is still better but Mean Streak is smoother so it's roughness is a little overblown.

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I think that in the next few years Cedar Point will turn Mean Streak into a hybrid coaster because now that is the only rough ride.

 

Part of me hopes Cedar Point never does anything with Mean Streak just because it's fun watching enthusiasts bitch about it and act like it's one of the worst coasters they've ever ridden. The ride's not good by any stretch of the imagination but there are a ton of rides out there that are far worse. People only complain about it so much because it's at Cedar Point and it takes up a ton of room.

 

Fun Fact: If you ride in the front and lean forward with your back off the seat back the ride is much smoother than Blue Streak (though it's a stupid way to ride a coaster). it's still boring, and Blue Streak is still better but Mean Streak is smoother so it's roughness is a little overblown.

 

 

Mean Streak is nowhere near as rough as it used to be, and I can remember when Blue Streak ran A LOT rougher than Mean Streak ever did. I don't think a single enthusiast complained about it. When I rode Mean Streak last year, it was the smoothest ride I ever had on it. I've always liked Mean Streak, but if they RMC it, I won't complain.

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^There's a ride planned for Orlando in 2016 over 500 feet, so....

 

This is true. However it is not a coaster where you experience a 500' drop or speed. It a coaster that is built up instead of out.

 

Cedar point was not the First 400' coaster, they were the first 400' full Circuit coaster.

 

I still think that 500' needs to be broke where you at least feel the speed. I don't know, but I do think it was said perfectly that whatever it is, is something we won't know. I do believe Cedar Point has something huge planed, they already have plans for their 150, what it is will be the game for awhile.

Yeah if CP one day really will break the height record again I wonder what type of coaster it will be. I mean, a full circuit one would cost a fortune and they already have MF. And a launched ride (no matter that happened after the top hat/whatever the tallest element would be, would make dragster redundant) so I really don't know.

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The real question: Where would they PUT a 500 foot roller coaster??

 

And Mean Streak is much better than it used to be. It's vaguely enjoyable now. If you don't sit over the wheels. And sit near the front of the train. And if you hold your breasts, my female friends have told me.

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My wild guess has always been that the next gigantic project for Cedar Point would probably be in the location of Camper Village. However, I don't know how popular it is, so I'm probably completely wrong here.

 

Of course...I remember all of the ACErs speculating years ago how the next thing to go would be the parking lot. I think not.

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I have a strong feeling that the next big project had to do with frontier town/mean streak. It that is not the big project, then I only can think of using an area by raptor (small) or using the beach more. Just some simple ideas

 

Unless they turn Mean Streak into a hybrid coaster, they would probably remove it than build a new coaster there.

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I have a strong feeling that the next big project had to do with frontier town/mean streak. It that is not the big project, then I only can think of using an area by raptor (small) or using the beach more. Just some simple ideas

 

Unless they turn Mean Streak into a hybrid coaster, they would probably remove it than build a new coaster there.

 

That is a very strong idea. Knowing the popularity of hybrids right now, getting in that market will not only bring something new (possibly some records to market) but a new life to the coaster.

 

If this does not happen, then I have to agree that we are close to seeing it on the way out. Close could mean 5 years. I don't think we will see MS get to 35.

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My wild guess has always been that the next gigantic project for Cedar Point would probably be in the location of Camper Village. However, I don't know how popular it is, so I'm probably completely wrong here.

 

Of course...I remember all of the ACErs speculating years ago how the next thing to go would be the parking lot. I think not.

 

 

Camper Village was removed this last off season for more cabins for Lighthouse Point.

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The real question: Where would they PUT a 500 foot roller coaster??

 

And Mean Streak is much better than it used to be. It's vaguely enjoyable now. If you don't sit over the wheels. And sit near the front of the train. And if you hold your breasts, my female friends have told me.

 

Where? Anywhere they want! You have to understand that if a park really wants something big like this, even if it seems like to you there is no room for it, if they really want it they WILL find a way to make it work and fit, whatever that entails.

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^ I would imagine that it would be very crowded, since it's Halloween. Saturday will be extremely crowded as well. Personally, I wouldn't go without a FastLane+, but that's just me. If it does get too cold, yes, they will start to shut down rides. 42-45 degrees is the temperature range where rides will start to close. You may want to contact the park and ask them about their temperature policy if there's a cold forecast.

 

Every indication is that is upcoming weekend is going to be fairly slow, and this comes from park sources. Families will avoid Halloween so they can take their kids out, and cold temperatures that are exacerbated by close proximity to the lake will most likely cut crowds down. I actually find it pretty stunning that Cedar Point is even open this upcoming weekend as the weather around Lake Erie perennially sucks at this time.

 

This Sunday (weather permitting) could be a golden opportunity for marathons as 'HalloWeekends" is over Saturday November 1st. Most of the current advertising says HalloWeekends is over this day, and really only the park calendar says the park is open but with no special events.

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Sunday is "Guest Appreciation Day" so they're offering discounted admission, merchandise deals, game deals and a lot of dollar food. Link.

 

I don't think this will bring all that many people in but they're making a desperate attempt to get people to show up. The fact that Saturday's forecast has been calling for rain or even snow and winds over 20 MPH that will likely close Dragster, Raptor, Gatekeeper, Windseeker and Sky Ride (not that anyone goes to the park for the last 2) may make some more people go on Sunday too but I still agree that it's going to be dead.

 

By the way it seems like the park is having a lot of issues with wind closing rides this month. Is this typical of October on Lake Erie (it wouldn't surprise me) or is it just a coincidence? I know October on Lake Erie is generally very cold but I didn't know if wind was more prevalent than normal also.

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At this time i will be at the park some Saturday night and most of the day Sunday. Saturday i will go see some of the shows leave watch some football then go back and do some of the outside haunts Just hopping that most of the rides are open Sunday the weather looks OK not much wind now for Sunday.

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