Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[PKI Jizzman]

Magnum could possibly give different rides based on humidity, as it's been more humid recently than it was one or two weeks ago.

 

Was Mantis' trim on? I know a week ago it was giving some AWESOME trim-less rides.

 

Yeah it was pretty much off, but I've never been that big of a fan of the ride. Georgia Scorcher is soooo much better in my opinion. On Mantis by the dive loop I'm ready to get off.

[FeelTheFORCE]

Completely understandable. I've always felt stand-ups in general, let alone Mantis, were sort of an acquired taste anyway. I was just curious on the status of the trims.

 

Also yes, I agree about Millennium and Dragster in the front seats...definitely a different, unique, one of a kind, and completely AWESOME experience!

[cedarpointcheif]

Found some more sweet ideas.... (Could replace Chaos)

 

http://www.zamperla.com/en/product/151/super-spin.html?category_id=4

 

and/or

 

http://www.zamperla.com/en/product/166/zodiac.html?category_id=4

[FeelTheFORCE]

Those look more like cheap, low capacity carnival rides than anything Cedar Point would get. Who knows, though, anyone's guess is fair game right now. I'm still betting on a large Disk-O or the Intamin Ball Coaster.

[slither37]

Wait, wait, wait. Is that Dick Kinzel spending money in his own park?!?!?!?! How much you wanna bet he had someone open those change boxes up after they were done so he could get his money back?

 

Yes, Cedar Fair has not spent ANY money on new rides this year.

[808Freq]

Those look more like cheap, low capacity carnival rides than anything Cedar Point would get. Who knows, though, anyone's guess is fair game right now. I'm still betting on a large Disk-O or the Intamin Ball Coaster.

 

A Kirnu clone would rock.

[CorkscrewFoley]

I'm wondering if maybe they'd install a B&M dive machine there. I can recall hearing a rumour about 6-7 years ago about them wanting one if Demon drop had been sold...

 

Still, I'd love to see a Zac Spin though...

[SharkTums]

^^No. That ride was barely a ride and super short. Plus there's no way they could get remotely enough capacity on it.

 

They need a version at LEAST Insane size if not bigger. (Or TWO Insane sized rides would also work)

[FeelTheFORCE]

^ Knowing Cedar Point, it would probably be the tallest and fastest of it's kind, lol.

 

I'm wondering if maybe they'd install a B&M dive machine there. I can recall hearing a rumour about 6-7 years ago about them wanting one if Demon drop had been sold...

 

I remember hearing that also. It's possible considering Griffon at BGE opened in Spring 2007 and the Le Mans ride that was taken out for Griffon operated all the way until July 5th in 2006. Again though, Kinzel himself said that "there is more to thrill rides than roller coasters," so that leads me to believe that it's not a coaster...at least not a major one (not ruling out a Ball Coaster).

[jmicha]

^Although I know you were just joking around and I'm not a huge fan of the breaking records just to break them mentality, a massive version of Insane, or side by side versions that could in some way interact with each other would be pretty epic. "Falling" off the ends of one of those hills 200 feet up would be a pretty ridiculous experience in my opinion. But this is just me dreaming and not being practical. Unless they were able to produce higher capacity trains or, like I said, have side by side rides, I'm not sure the capacity would be anything near high enough for the crowds of Cedar Point, especially since it would be located in a very high traffic part of the park.

[KDcoasterMAN]

^If B&M can make the dive machine trains and track bigger, then Intamin could do the same for the ZacSpins.

[jmicha]

^Very true. It certainly wouldn't be impossible, would just require some interesting design changes. Actually now I m very interested in what a high capacity, monstrous version of Insane would be like.

[Montu Maniac]

I am visiting Cedar Point 9th June till 12th June ..... make a meeting point !!!

[rcg19]

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[jmicha]

^I agree to a point, but I feel that rides such as Maverick and STR at the low end of what they find acceptable. I think a slightly higher capacity than Insane would probably work if done properly. I'd be curious to see how they actually feel about the issue of capacity and lines from a business standpoint as you make a good point. Granted there are many counter points for the same argument, but it would be interesting to see how important capacity really is in making decisions for their future ride investments.

[DBru]

^^I agree with you that, the longer guests stand in line, the longer they will most likely be at the park (unless they get tired of waiting and leave). But on the other hand, the more time guests spend in line, the less time they have to purchase food, play games, and buy merchandise at the gift shops.

 

Plus, both Maverick and STR have capacities of 1,200pph...is that considered low-capacity? (It sounds quite efficient, to me... )

[jmicha]

^It's not too bad, but it's also not amazing. Maverick moves through its line pretty quickly, so it has never really been a problem for me, but I feel that for the number of guests visiting Cedar Point on any given summer day, this should really be around the low point of capacities otherwise you start getting into excessive lines. And from personal experience with non-enthusiast friends, longer lines generally lead to them being worn out quicker and ready to leave around dinner time (meaning no dinner in the park).

[braztaz]

Well, I think it should be a roller coaster of any type, because I wouldn't want Six Flags beating Cedar Point at most roller coasters in a theme park...

[coasterkyle]

^Unless Six Flags Announce another coaster for SFMM for next year they would only be tied at 17 .... BTW my I ask whats the big deal with most coasters at one park.

[FeelTheFORCE]

In the same regard, I wouldn't want Cedar Point to mindlessly build coasters just to have the title, when there could be better options for rides out there.

[Wes]

People tie their self-worth into the park they prefer and don't want to see another park "beat" their park. It's sort of like rooting for your favorite sports team, but even more retarded and pointless.

 

 

 

go lakers!

[CPmaverick]

It wouldn't surprise me if in some way the city of Sandusky were somewhat pressuring Cedar Point to try and maintain the coaster record. It seems like every City of Sandusky entrance sign says "Welcome to Sandusky, America's Roller Coast". In my opinion, I definitely don't want CP just to add a mediocre coaster for the sake of the coaster count. I would rather lose the most coasters record and get a top ten coaster versus keeping the record and getting something like an SLC.

[braztaz]

It wouldn't surprise me if in some way the city of Sandusky were somewhat pressuring Cedar Point to try and maintain the coaster record. It seems like every City of Sandusky entrance sign says "Welcome to Sandusky, America's Roller Coast". In my opinion, I definitely don't want CP just to add a mediocre coaster for the sake of the coaster count. I would rather lose the most coasters record and get a top ten coaster versus keeping the record and getting something like an SLC.

 

Well yeah, just this might just be what they're ending up doing.

 

As mentioned earlier, it's mostly of tourism and bragging rights.

 

I'd rather them find something for the better, too, but I'm just going with what I think....

[FeelTheFORCE]

Regardless of whether they have the most coasters or not, Cedar Point will still be Cedar Point. Magic Mountain being clear across the entire country, I don't think they have anything to worry about when it comes to losing visitors. And besides, who said the title "America's Roller Coast" means that you have the most coasters? Having a LOT can still warrant that title...

[coasterkyle]

From Cedar Points Twitter

 

For those wondering, Shoot the Rapids will not be open this weekend. We apologize for the inconvenience.

oh well still 70+ attractions you can enjoy