Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[Diamondbacker27]

Since we're pretty positive KI is getting a B&M for 2020, what is the likelihood that both of Cedar Fairs Ohio parks are getting a new 20-30 million dollar coaster in the same year? I'd say not too likely. It's okay to not get a new coaster every other year. If you don't expect so much you won't be disappointed.

[Intamin_coyote]

Like I've said, outside of bringing X-Flight over from GL in 2007, never has Cedar Fair opened a new coaster at both parks in the same year.

 

And yes, I would agree its okay to not have a new coaster every other year, especially considering they just got what some are calling "the best coaster ever built" (without hyperbole).

 

Wasn't able to make it to the CP last season, but I won't be surprised if SV takes over Toro for my #1 overall. In fact, I might be surprised if it doesn't.

[prozach626]

I guess I'll just keep posting statements then.

Can you just not? Even from your point of view it's all speculation. At some point you just have to agree to disagree.

 

How about a cash bet on a new 2020 coaster? Any takers?

Bruh. You seriously just stole my next post.

 

 

We can argue over the likelihood of Cedar Point constructing a new roller coaster all day long. But, one thing most of us can agree on is that lately there has been a strong correlation between new members and obnoxious posts.

[ytterbiumanalyst]

But, one thing most of us can agree on is that lately there has been a strong correlation between new members and obnoxious posts.

[Philrad71]

^^ Agreed, Zach.

 

The last few pages have been painful to read.

[Samuel]

Just for fun, my guess is that the next big coaster will be a controlled spinning coaster from Mack that beats Time Traveler. Tallest, fastest, longest, etc. in a sparse category wouldn't be too hard to achieve, and it'd be a new experience for the park. Cedar Fair is working with Mack on Copperhead Strike, so bingo, bango, bongo -- there it is.

[Pedrinho]

Just for fun, my guess is that the next big coaster will be a controlled spinning coaster from Mack that beats Time Traveler. Tallest, fastest, longest, etc. in a sparse category wouldn't be too hard to achieve, and it'd be a new experience for the park. Cedar Fair is working with Mack on Copperhead Strike, so bingo, bango, bongo -- there it is.

Time Traveler isn't controlled spinning. It's free spinning.

[JG-77]

Just for fun, my guess is that the next big coaster will be a controlled spinning coaster from Mack that beats Time Traveler. Tallest, fastest, longest, etc. in a sparse category wouldn't be too hard to achieve, and it'd be a new experience for the park. Cedar Fair is working with Mack on Copperhead Strike, so bingo, bango, bongo -- there it is.

Time Traveler isn't controlled spinning. It's free spinning.

Time Traveler is controlled spinning. Its spinning isn't controlled by a motor, but there is a magnetic (I think) brake on the ride that slows down spinning if it gets faster than a certain speed.

 

The park actually put a considerable amount of effort into stressing that the spinning is controlled so that it doesn't spin too fast like you'd see on many actual free-spinning rides.

[MidwestThemeParks]

A coaster like Time traveler would be a great addition to CP’s lineup. When my whole family was at SDC (more than 20 of us), Time Traveler was enjoyed by everyone who rode it. CP could use more coasters the whole family can enjoy and that are just fun. When was the last time a family coaster was built (other than Pipe Scream)? Iron Dragon in 1987, 32 years ago? While a ride like Time Traveler might not be ideal if they want a family coaster because it has a 51” height requirement, it would still be a great addition.

[Pedrinho]

Just for fun, my guess is that the next big coaster will be a controlled spinning coaster from Mack that beats Time Traveler. Tallest, fastest, longest, etc. in a sparse category wouldn't be too hard to achieve, and it'd be a new experience for the park. Cedar Fair is working with Mack on Copperhead Strike, so bingo, bango, bongo -- there it is.

Time Traveler isn't controlled spinning. It's free spinning.

Time Traveler is controlled spinning. Its spinning isn't controlled by a motor, but there is a magnetic (I think) brake on the ride that slows down spinning if it gets faster than a certain speed.

 

The park actually put a considerable amount of effort into stressing that the spinning is controlled so that it doesn't spin too fast like you'd see on many actual free-spinning rides.

Yeah, you're right. But I see that more like "trimmed", as it is not controlled like it's determined when exactly the cars are looking in a certain direction. Each ride may be different, even when there may be a maximum amount of rotations per minute. So the "controlled" factor is still very liberal.

[prozach626]

When was the last time a family coaster was built (other than Pipe Scream)? Iron Dragon in 1987, 32 years ago?

I doubt it was considered a family coaster when it was built.

[bert425]

I'd love to see a spinning coaster of any kind at CP. . it's a type they are missing.

 

(and we loved Sierra Sidewinder at Knott's. . so even something not up to the "level" of Time Traveler, but simply a family spinner like SS, would be a great fit, I think).

[ytterbiumanalyst]

I'd love to see a spinning coaster of any kind at CP. . it's a type they are missing.

 

(and we loved Sierra Sidewinder at Knott's. . so even something not up to the "level" of Time Traveler, but simply a family spinner like SS, would be a great fit, I think).

You know, I'm not usually one to be inclined toward "they need this type" arguments, but I agree with you here. I think spinning coasters are a major category and easily recognizable, right up there with wooden coasters, the ones that go upside down, and the ones that don't go upside down. Beyond those four categories, no one cares.

[Intamin_coyote]

I think they could use a new intermediate coaster, whatever it may be.

 

Not only have they not added one in decades, but they've also lost a couple in Wildcat and DT.

 

(I lowkey thought Disaster Transport was kind of a cool ride - albeit short)

[Cavan]

2020 will be Kings Island's year. CP needs a bit more time to "top Steel Vengeance." I don't think anyone should take this literally. Cedar Point needs not to top their own coasters but to make them unique in their own perfect way, a way that makes it hard to pick your favorite ride. "Top Thrill has the best launch, Raptor has the best loops, or is it Gatekeeper's? Steve's inversions are SO good though. I like Maverick's low turns, but darn I love the sustained speed of Millennium!" The next major coaster will have to step to this level of indecisiveness. It may be easy for us enthusiasts to pick out our favorite, but not the GP. What would capture their attention? Something that visually looks like another major attraction? Or should it be something that most of them haven't experienced, or at least haven't experienced well ...?

[AmyUD06]

It's not going to be a flyer.

[DorneyKid14]

2020 will be Kings Island's year. CP needs a bit more time to "top Steel Vengeance." I don't think anyone should take this literally. Cedar Point needs not to top their own coasters but to make them unique in their own perfect way, a way that makes it hard to pick your favorite ride. "Top Thrill has the best launch, Raptor has the best loops, or is it Gatekeeper's? Steve's inversions are SO good though. I like Maverick's low turns, but darn I love the sustained speed of Millennium!" The next major coaster will have to step to this level of indecisiveness. It may be easy for us enthusiasts to pick out our favorite, but not the GP. What would capture their attention? Something that visually looks like another major attraction? Or should it be something that most of them haven't experienced, or at least haven't experienced well ...?

 

There is a 99% chance that cedar point already has their next coaster planned out and designed.

[Pedrinho]

2020 will be Kings Island's year. CP needs a bit more time to "top Steel Vengeance." I don't think anyone should take this literally. Cedar Point needs not to top their own coasters but to make them unique in their own perfect way, a way that makes it hard to pick your favorite ride. "Top Thrill has the best launch, Raptor has the best loops, or is it Gatekeeper's? Steve's inversions are SO good though. I like Maverick's low turns, but darn I love the sustained speed of Millennium!" The next major coaster will have to step to this level of indecisiveness. It may be easy for us enthusiasts to pick out our favorite, but not the GP. What would capture their attention? Something that visually looks like another major attraction? Or should it be something that most of them haven't experienced, or at least haven't experienced well ...?

 

There is a 99% chance that cedar point already has their next coaster planned out and designed.

And if it is a 2020 attraction (I highly doubt that if we're talking about a bigger coaster than, let's say, Lightning Run) many parts are already produced.

[prozach626]

God help me. Can someone please post some pictures of the Ffcking new Italian restaurant so that we can at least talk about something relevant? Who wants to speculate about how many pepperonis will be on each slice of pizza?

[Diamondbacker27]

God help me. Can someone please post some pictures of the Ffcking new Italian restaurant so that we can at least talk about something relevant? Who wants to speculate about how many pepperonis will be on each slice of pizza?

I'd say 2-3 pepperonis per pizza.

[operative_me]

^^ But dude, Steel Vengeance is totally opening in 2017, and they're going to have 20 coasters for 2020! Just watch!

[Diamondbacker27]

Last night I booked my hotel for my CP trip! I'm staying 4 days, 3 nights. I plan on going to the park 2 days, are there any other things I should look into in the area? Thanks!

[bluestreak]

Last night I booked my hotel for my CP trip! I'm staying 4 days, 3 nights. I plan on going to the park 2 days, are there any other things I should look into in the area? Thanks!

 

Battery park is a nice place to get great pics of the park.

Ghostly Manor thrill center is your typical children's party place but it has a killer haunted house inside of it for some reason

Then of course theres Kalahari which can be fun even if you dont do the waterpark.

[Diamondbacker27]

Thank you! I was actually looking for some good places outside the park to get pictures, so that was helpful!

[operative_me]

Put-in-Bay or Kelleys Island is easily accessible via Ferry from Sandusky, although the Jet Express can be a little pricey. It is fast. If you have a car you can drive to Catawba or Marblehead for a bit cheaper rate.

Kelleys Island Ferry

Miller Ferry to Put-in-Bay

Jet Express

 

The Marblehead Peninsula has East Harbor State Park with a decent beach and some hiking trails. It is a little bit of a drive from Sandusky but it's cool to check out.

 

Huron has a long pier that you can walk down, you get a good view of Cedar Point, especially at night.

Huron Pier

 

Also as Bluestreak mentioned above, Sandusky has a nice little waterfront/downtown area. You can walk around the marinas and there are some decent bars/restaurants to check out.