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I'm sure I'm not the only one, but I don't give a flying crap what the name of this coaster is. It will be an amazing ride regardless. Plus, most names that initially sound terrible typically tend to grow on me. When I first heard the SFMM was calling their new coaster "Twisted Colossus," I thought it was one of the worst things you could name a coaster, but it really has grown on me, and it's not too bad now. Steel Vengeance is fine, IMO. It'll be a kicka$$ ride, and that's what matters.

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I'm sure I'm not the only one, but I don't give a flying crap what the name of this coaster is. It will be an amazing ride regardless. Plus, most names that initially sound terrible typically tend to grow on me. When I first heard the SFMM was calling their new coaster "Twisted Colossus," I thought it was one of the worst things you could name a coaster, but it really has grown on me, and it's not too bad now. Steel Vengeance is fine, IMO. It'll be a kicka$$ ride, and that's what matters.

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I think it would sound better if they just dropped the Steel part and just called it Vengeance

This! The Vengeance part is pretty bada$$ and fresh, and I'll probably just call it that if it's part of the name.

 

And Emu Blazer is admittedly way better than my suggestion of Ostrich Streak.

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I will never understand why the name means so much to people.

 

I've sort of come to realize that no matter how bad a name is it eventually grows on people and they think nothing of it so I sort of agree. Obviously I can appreciate a coaster with an awesome name (Alpengeist is still my favorite), but even horrendous names like "Mystic Timbers" eventually grow on you and you barely even think about them either way.

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Kinda sounds Like Cedar point Trolled people. but still cool they did something,

Also i want to say as much as i Hate Vr on roller coasters. I did VR on Iron Dragon and the ride was super fun. The line just moves really slow.

 

If they showed the full POV then personally I wouldn't say they trolled people at all.

 

I agree about Iron Dragon. I hate VR, but they have a great system of doing it (with plenty of time to ride Iron Dragon normally throughout the day without having to deal with the lines) and the VR itself is pretty awesome.

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Is anyone surprised that this coaster isn't going to break the record for most inversions on a wooden/hybrid coaster? Or would 4 be the record?

4 inversions would be a record for a wooden/hybrid coaster.

 

The current record is 3 inverisions, held by Outlaw Run, Wildfire, Wicked Cyclone, and Medusa Steel Coaster.

 

Ahhh that makes sense. Thanks for the correction

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I will never understand why the name means so much to people.

 

It's just one of those theme and aesthetic things that some people care about and some people don't. Some people need high quality headphones, some people are fine with 10$ earbuds. Some people don't care what colour car they drive, some people want specifically this shade of green. We could go on and on but it's just the whole people are different yada yada thing.

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Kinda sounds Like Cedar point Trolled people. but still cool they did something,

Also i want to say as much as i Hate Vr on roller coasters. I did VR on Iron Dragon and the ride was super fun. The line just moves really slow.

 

If they showed the full POV then personally I wouldn't say they trolled people at all.

 

I agree about Iron Dragon. I hate VR, but they have a great system of doing it (with plenty of time to ride Iron Dragon normally throughout the day without having to deal with the lines) and the VR itself is pretty awesome.

 

Plus, doesn’t it seem like a massive waste of time to go through over 200 contest entries, invite 50 of them to the park, put together a fake POV after making everyone of those 50 guests (though I believe there were only 35 or so of us there) go through a security check restricting all electronic devices... just to troll people? What good would that do for the park, you know? sure. Anyone can make a POV. But this one was as you’d expect, was professionally done and HQ. why would they pay someone to make a fake POV?

 

My experience with the sneak peek was really fun. Everyone was very sociable by where I was sitting (second row on the stage left side) and super excited to be there. Tony was awesome as always, and the POV was really cool to see especially knowing that only the people in the room were the ones who had the ability to do so before the actual announcement. I really appreciated the ability to be there and I’m very honored I was chosen, as I’m sure at least most of the other winners also felt. With that being said, I again don’t think Cedar Point would fake it to announce something totally different three days later. (And since I know you read these from time to time, Tony - thanks for the opportunity! I loved it!)

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I have seen the RMC Mean Streak layout video. This might be day-old news now, but I wanted to add some more credibility/clarification to what's out there. The coaster already looks huge; it's going to be awesome!

 

* First drop is completely traditional like Goliath, but looks even nuttier. Extremely steep, 90 degrees or close to it. It doesn't pitch straight down immediately like a dive coaster, but has a really nice rounded curvature that quickly gets progressively steeper. I can't imagine how thrilling riding in the back will be!

 

* The ride will absolutely shred through the layout. The whole ride will be taken with exhilarating speed, aside from the MCBR; it's going to be relentless.

 

* There will be two full bunny hills after the third inversion, followed by some extreme curves/misdirection hills inside the structure, an extra barrel roll (4th inversion), and then a finale of about four bunny hills heading into the brakes. One or two of these finale bunnies are tiny and look a lot like those on Chance/Morgan's Lightning Run. Overall, the last lap reminded me much more of Wicked Cyclone than NTAG. It's going to be an onslaught. This all follows Mean Streak's original layout path.

 

* Every redone section seems like it's on steroids and will be traversed in a "that's just wrong" kind of fast-forward pace. I'm not sure whether the beefier new elements will stretch the layout to 6,000 ft., but there's absolutely no cut section of Mean Streak's layout.

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Quick review from the weekend:

 

Millennium Force (10 rides): It's still my #1. I think it's a perfect coaster, and that hasn't changed. Rode in the back every time, and had nothing but smooth, fast, exhilarating rides. I could ride this all day, forever. There was airtime galore on the big hills and bunny, and the first drop still can't be beaten. It has been and always will be better than Fury and i305, haters! 10/10

 

Magnum (2 rides): I'm a fan and forum defender of Magnum, but I don't have any excuses for it this time: It was just bad-bumpy. The first drop was smooth and the bunny hills were still hilarious, but there were jarring potholes all over the layout. Oh well, that's all part of Magnum's charm. I know I'll get good rides on it again. 5/10

 

Rougarou (2 rides): I thought the back might give an intense old-school B&M experience, but it was just rough, and did nothing that could be considered thrilling or fun. I was beaten up whether I tried to fight the coaster or just relax and let it toss me around. There's nothing redeemable about riding in the back. The front, however, was pretty good. Much smoother, the visual floorless effect held some value, and suddenly I thought the whole ride was decent. 2/10 (back), 7.5/10 (front)

 

Dragster (2 rides): For my second ride, I rode in the front seat at dusk, one of the biggest bug-related mistakes of my life. My lip was bleeding after the ride from one particularly nasty bug pelt. The coaster itself was great; I've always loved Dragster. It's still holding up well in the smoothness department, and if you get a fast launch, blasting over the top and down the drop feels like it should be illegal. The only downside was a pair of breakdowns while waiting, as usual. 9.5/10

 

Raptor (1 ride): Left me at the brakes feeling nauseous, but lord knows that I appreciate the heck out of this ride. It's true that the cobra roll and entrance into the brakes can be borderline-violent, but I admire how aggressive, long, and diverse the layout is. That first drop is still one of the best on a B&M invert, and I was grinning ear-to-ear in the helix. It's a really fun ride, even if it's not a coaster that lends itself to marathoning. Can't get this stuff no more. 8.5/10

 

Maverick (2 rides): I really like Maverick, but it was just *good* for me on this trip. There's nothing wrong with it, but it didn't feel neck-and-neck with MF in my books like it sometimes does. The airtime hills and wacky Stengel dive are still awesome. Like with TTD, there were a couple of breakdowns while in line.

8/10

 

Gemini (1 ride): Gemini has always been Gemini: mostly smooth, but with odd little back-thwacking jolts at the bottoms of the drops. That helix was definitely eyeballed when they built this ride; it's wonky like some of Excalibur's (Valleyfair) elements, but overall the coaster's held up pretty well. The first drop is steep and fun, and there's a surprise head chopper hill that still gets me every time. 7/10

 

Valravn (5 rides): The surprise ride of the trip! The first drop is just a ton of fun. If you don't giggle on the way down that drop, there's something wrong with you. I'd also read reports that the third row had become rough, but I had multiple rides in the back that were butter-smooth. It's true that I prefer Raptor's fast pacing over the slower rolls of newer B&Ms, but I didn't mind the inversions here. I didn't mind the trains, either. The vests don't tighten as they do (or did) on Gatekeeeper, and there's more elbow room over the old B&M trains. The only thing that could have been better is Valravn's multiple abrupt brakes and hard stops; they aren't too graceful. 9/10

 

Blue Streak (1 ride): Ibuprofen time. Someone on TPR wrote a scathing review of Blue Streak earlier this season that surprised me. Now I know. This is beyond smoother rides exposing Blue Streak for being a more traditional wooden coaster; it was down-right atrocious. In addition to the bruise on my left thigh, my back and elbow are sore today. It was worse than any ride I ever had on Mean Streak. The track actually seems okay, but the trains were just jack hammering throughout the entire layout. It bothers me that this is a coaster that families will choose as a nice starter ride, as well. What the heck happened? 1/10

 

Power Tower (2 rides; each side): I usually prefer the space shot, but it was running pretty lethargically. The initial launch slowed down considerably near the top, and I didn't get that enjoyable pop of airtime. On the other hand, the turbo drop felt forceful and took me by surprise. I prefer Intamin 2nd generations over the S&S towers, but I do love this ride's presence, location, and lighting package. 5/10 space shot, 7/10 turbo drop

 

Wicked Twister (1 ride): I think WT's intensity is completely underrated. The pullouts deliver serious positive Gs, and the back spike can be genuinely terrifying when you're riding in the back. Like Raptor, I don't think WT would be easy to marathon, but I like it. I think it's a bit unheralded among all the great coasters at CP, but it's still one of the more intense coasters in the park. 8/10

 

It's the first time I skipped Gatekeeper. I don't outright hate it, but it maintained a pretty good line, and I've ridden it enough to know that I'd rather get one more extra ride on MF.

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SAD NEWS GUYS! The ever so famous boat at CP is up in flames! Please take a moment of silence for this unfortunate tragedy.

 

In all seriousness, I hope everyone is okay! Sandusky FD is responding to a fire at the CP Marina, reported in the last hour. Link to Video

 

Rip boat. Gone but not forgotten.

 

Just saw this as well on Twitter, no injuries were reported.

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^^ Great review! Glad to see someone who shares my love for MF. (Although I may not quite agree about Fury...) I also had the same reaction to Maverick this year. This was my third year in a row visiting CP and my fourth time ever since Maverick was built. The last two years it blew me away with the new restraints. But this year, it just didn't get me like it has in years past and I'm not sure why. I think it's running as great as always, I just didn't like it quite as much for some reason.

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