Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[ImNotOneOfYou]

Are there any pictures of them visible on Gemini?

 

EDIT: Oh look a picture

[DoinItForTheFame]

Are there any pictures of them visible on Gemini?

 

Maybe?? (but not as good as the above photo)

 

Also, a few more upstop pads in use.

 

 

[hendrixmarshalljames]

There's also a mysterious blue wrapped "thing" underneath Millenium...It's been there for about 2 weeks...It looks sorta like a dive car flipped on its back...(headrests on grass)

 

I am about 100% positive that is not a Dive Machine car.

 

1.) Why would it be so far away from the track and supports? And radomly laying on their back in grass?? No.

 

2.) Don't they usually store the trains inside until they and brought out to be put on the track

 

3.) Why would they be there so early?? Trains usually don't arrive until well AFTER the track and supports start to arrive.

 

Also, someone correct me if I am wrong, but don't B&M Trains usually arrive at parks in those boxy metal shipping containers?? Not randomly wrapped in blue plastic.

 

Our thought was CP having the car for a photo op for the big reveal...they would probably look like that inside the shipping crate, along with styrofoam keeping it tight. We noticed it the day the big reveal was supposed to go down, but got pushed back. So it's not impossible to think it got unpacked prior to it getting pushed back. I'm not saying it is or it isn't...but the bottom looks like headrests, and the top looks like it has plywood covering/protecting the business end of a coaster car. We should have gone back and rode the train for a better photo, because the sides have a bird-like face looking outwards. The photo doesn't really show it, unfortunately.

[DoinItForTheFame]

Our thought was CP having the car for a photo op for the big reveal...they would probably look like that inside the shipping crate, along with styrofoam keeping it tight. We noticed it the day the big reveal was supposed to go down, but got pushed back. So it's not impossible to think it got unpacked prior to it getting pushed back. I'm not saying it is or it isn't...but the bottom looks like headrests, and the top looks like it has plywood covering/protecting the business end of a coaster car. We should have gone back and rode the train for a better photo, because the sides have a bird-like face looking outwards. The photo doesn't really show it, unfortunately.

 

Well only time will tell! I am not saying that it is or isn't either, to me it just seems highly un-likey that it is. I really think if it were the trains, and they did get them out for the big reveal, and the big reveal ended up no happening they would put the trains some where... Better? Safer? Smarter? Maybe back inside a storage/shipping container, or maybe inside a building. I just don't see a park leaving a brand new very expensive roller coaster train just laying in the grass some where. I feel like it would be back in a box like the one below. (Yes, I know it is from a different manufacture, but I can't imagine that shipping procedures are much different.)

 

[ejot]

I just don't see a park leaving a brand new very expensive roller coaster train just laying in the grass some where. I feel like it would be back in a box like the one below.

B..b...but..you just posted this on Friday.

 

I think it's entirely plausible that's a train at CP. And entirely plausible it's not. Heh, I can't be wrong!

[coasternut]

Our thought was CP having the car for a photo op for the big reveal...they would probably look like that inside the shipping crate, along with styrofoam keeping it tight. We noticed it the day the big reveal was supposed to go down, but got pushed back. So it's not impossible to think it got unpacked prior to it getting pushed back. I'm not saying it is or it isn't...but the bottom looks like headrests, and the top looks like it has plywood covering/protecting the business end of a coaster car. We should have gone back and rode the train for a better photo, because the sides have a bird-like face looking outwards. The photo doesn't really show it, unfortunately.

 

Well only time will tell! I am not saying that it is or isn't either, to me it just seems highly un-likey that it is. I really think if it were the trains, and they did get them out for the big reveal, and the big reveal ended up no happening they would put the trains some where... Better? Safer? Smarter? Maybe back inside a storage/shipping container, or maybe inside a building. I just don't see a park leaving a brand new very expensive roller coaster train just laying in the grass some where. I feel like it would be back in a box like the one below. (Yes, I know it is from a different manufacture, but I can't imagine that shipping procedures are much different.)

 

 

The announcement is inside the Jack Aldridge theater, so that train you're talking about could be inside there already waiting for Sept 9.

[John Peck]

Magnum only had the upstop plates the first season as everytime the train would go over the small hills, you would hear it scrape and screech. So they replaced them quickly. After the first season, they also raised the drop between the third hill and the pretzel since it was slamming riders down too much.

[coasterkid124]

I wonder why they even implemented them to begin with. It's not like upstop wheels were a foreign concept at the time. All of the Arrow loopers had them. Were they expecting the coaster to be a really tall mine train or something????

[Vonni]

^^ Oh Arrow and its infamous slamming!

[G Force]

I wonder why they even implemented them to begin with. It's not like upstop wheels were a foreign concept at the time. All of the Arrow loopers had them. Were they expecting the coaster to be a really tall mine train or something????

 

They probably didn't think a up stop wheels were necessary, considering that Magnum didn't have any inversions. They had been successful with the under track pads in the past on rides like Gemini, and at its core, Magnum is basically a 200ft mine train. You also have to remember that there were almost no computers used in the designing of Magnum, actually Magnum was one of the last major coasters to not use Computer technology. All of the track was hand shaped on sight rather than prefabricated in a factory. This is also why they modified the ride quite a bit after the initial testing, the raising of the dip before the turnaround, adding of the trims, removal of the up stop pads.

 

Coasters in those days were a lot more trial and error than they are today, due to the lack of computers they often built full scale prototypes of rides to test the concepts.

[DoinItForTheFame]

I just don't see a park leaving a brand new very expensive roller coaster train just laying in the grass some where. I feel like it would be back in a box like the one below.

B..b...but..you just posted this on Friday.

 

Keywords: VERY EXPENSIVE.

 

The announcement is inside the Jack Aldridge theater, so that train you're talking about could be inside there already waiting for Sept 9.

 

Which is another reason why it wouldn't just be laying around underneath MF's lift hill.

[Coaster19]

I can't wait for the announcement. That would be awesome if the train was available for the announcement.

[Vonni]

I know its probably not very likely, but it would be really funny if the leaked layouts we have seen for Valravn turn out to be completely fake and what CP announces would a different layout entirely. SURPRISE!!! lol

[TB305]

I know its probably not very likely, but it would be really funny if the leaked layouts we have seen for Valravn turn out to be completely fake and what CP announces would a different layout entirely. SURPRISE!!! lol

If this were a traditional leak, yes I would consider this a possibility.

 

However, the renders we have were ripped from the code of an app. The Venn Diagram of Coaster Enthusiasts and App Developers who have the know-how to get into the code, and know how to interpret it and rip data from said app is incredibly small, and that seems like a terrible way to tease or fake enthusiasts out. It would be like dropping a hint for a new Marvel movie in the script of a planned Disney movie. If they were indeed fake, I think they'd go KI "Bat" wingrider website leak style.

[Jacklw6499]

Just a general question... I am heading back to CP next year and am wondering which coasters are a must to do in the front row. I'll be getting Fast Lane Plus so wait times won't be an issue.

[blakelemay23]

Just a general question... I am heading back to CP next year and am wondering which coasters are a must to do in the front row. I'll be getting Fast Lane Plus so wait times won't be an issue.

Raptor, TTD, Millenium Force, Gatekeeper (both sides)

[Nickstroberg]

^dont forget MAVERICK! the front seat on that badboy is the best ride in the park! If possible, get the front LEFT seat, some of the really snappy transitions seem to ride better in the left seat; almost like they were heartlined to it. Try it once, and you'll sit there every time

[Vonni]

Don't get me wrong, I definitely enjoy the front seat on Coasters. But, I'm one to prefer the back seat on most. I feel like the ride is always more intense in the back, with the exception of a few really rough woodies.

[JonnyRCT3]

^I agree. Maverick in the back is pure bliss.

[Jacklw6499]

^^I also agree coasters are best in the back, but since I don't get to CP every year I want to try out the front row just for the heck of it. Do you get very much air time on Millie in the front? I've only really ridden in it towards the back. Also, what seat gets you the most airtime on Millie?

[DILinator]

I would add Rougarou to the must-rides in front. Personally, at least, that's the money seat for the Floorless coasters because you get the true, wide-open effect!

 

if you have time (which it sounds like you will with Fast Pass), I would ride most of the coasters in the front, and back, at least once. While MF is definitely a must-ride in the front, it's also a must-ride (and much shorter line) in the back, where you get pulled over that 300 foot drop, and through the rest of the ride!

[Nickstroberg]

^^The only part of Maverick that I feel is better in the back, is the first drop. The airtime on every other hill it has is ridiculous nomatter where you sit. So why not enjoy the visuals of the front seat with it?! Just a personal preference though. I've ridden it in virtually every seat, as Ive gone to CP 4-6 every season since Mav opened, and I've just found I really prefer front left. Only thing I'd rate above it is Skyrush in the back left wing seat to be honest

[DoinItForTheFame]

Just a general question... I am heading back to CP next year and am wondering which coasters are a must to do in the front row. I'll be getting Fast Lane Plus so wait times won't be an issue.

 

Aside from those already mentioned I would add Valravn to that list. Dive machines are a must ride in the front row, and then again in the back row!!

[coasterbill]

Just a general question... I am heading back to CP next year and am wondering which coasters are a must to do in the front row. I'll be getting Fast Lane Plus so wait times won't be an issue.

Raptor, TTD, Millenium Force, Gatekeeper (both sides)

 

Agree with this. Raptor's front seat line will only cost you like 5 minutes and it's the best by far. If you're one of those people that complains about B&M rattle then don't sit on the left side of the train. If you like to have fun then sit on the left side. lol Gatekeeper's front seat line won't cost you much time either.

 

Millennium Force is great in every seat but you have to ride it once in the front both during the day and at night. The line will be huge but it's worth it. Dragster is the same way... even if the wait for the front is an hour, do it! You can ride Rougarou in the front but it's a better back seat ride.

 

Also I should mention (again) Mean Streak because it's horrible in the other seats. Front seat, lean forward, back off the seat back if you don't want internal bleeding.

 

Edit: sorry for the double post but Cedar Point posted what I think is an obvious diversion on their new event page...

 

Image...

 

Link...

Coaster Appreciation Night

 

I'm not buying this for a second.

[ImNotOneOfYou]

^^I also agree coasters are best in the back, but since I don't get to CP every year I want to try out the front row just for the heck of it. Do you get very much air time on Millie in the front? I've only really ridden in it towards the back. Also, what seat gets you the most airtime on Millie?

 

What I've learned from many visits to Cedar Point is that on Millennium Force, the front seat is the best for morning rides and back seat is the best for night rides.