Woodie Warrior Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 The new roller coaster won't be named Valravn. The parc has abandonned the use of that name because it is now associated with the Raptor incident... Source: magicmountainlover "Magicmountainlover" got that pic from Coaster Studios, an account that has no more information about the situation than any other enthusiast out there. He literally just posts rumors and claims them as facts he got from an "insider". People act like he's a Coaster God, when really, he's just a 16 year old dude who likes to act like he's way better than the rest of us just because he has a following of enthusiasts who actually think he has "inside sources". /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 The new roller coaster won't be named Valravn. The parc has abandonned the use of that name because it is now associated with the Raptor incident... Source: magicmountainlover Just cause a 15 year-old posted that on Instagram does not make this stupid claim correct. That is NOT a source. Can everyone PLEASE stop spreading this ridiculous rumor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiftThrill Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Pretty sure the average visitor to CP doesn't even know about the name Valravn being used, how is it associated with the Raptor incident? Raptor is a dark name because raptors are birds of prey. Iron Dragon is a dark name because dragons. Skyhawk is a dark name because hawks are birds of prey. Mean Streak is a dark name because mean. I doubt they're going to change the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILinator Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Count me in the camp of being "shocked", if they were to change the name. Creating some distance between the accident, and the announcement, makes sense. Changing the name would not. Care to wager a guess on how many people that ride Rougarou every day, have NO idea about that particular (dark) legend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdono02 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Actually, here's an idea - instead of installing metal detectors, why isn't there security hanging out in the onride photo booth, and every person they see with their cell phone out on the ride, escort them out of the park and trespass them from ever coming back. This. Also I'm really surprised none of you have mentioned, or maybe they don't do this anymore, that using a cell phone on a ride in Ohio is actually illegal - the last few times I've been to KI and CP, the ride ops mentioned it on the overhead on numerous rides and I watched the Gemini op one time stop the blue train about an eighth of the way up the lift hill to walk out on to the track and tell someone to put their phone away. I mean - if it is actually illegal in the state, there really should be repercussions akin to Rob's suggestions. I feel like doing anything else illegal would also get you kicked out of the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerManic Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Or they could just hire the Mississippi State Troopers. They love phones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montu Maniac Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I do love Cedar Point ... but I do miss a descent wooden coaster !!! My last visit is about 3 years ago and that Meanstreak ... damned !!! Hopefully after the next steel coaster ....... What is your opinion my coasterfriends about only building steel after steel @ CP ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACES Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Is Raptor back open up and running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkiz Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Is Raptor back open up and running? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega_Coaster_77 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Is Raptor back open up and running? yes it opened up yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire2box Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I do love Cedar Point ... but I do miss a descent wooden coaster !!! My last visit is about 3 years ago and that Meanstreak ... damned !!! Hopefully after the next steel coaster ....... What is your opinion my coasterfriends about only building steel after steel @ CP ??? bet they'll get a RMC coaster within 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 ^^ I have to admit that I have seen some very interesting posts since the date for the announcement was set and this thread kicked into high gear. Here are my faves thusfar... * Valravn is a complete hoax - it won't be a coaster, but a dark ride instead * A 12 year old complaining about CP getting a dive coaster with an uninspired layout. Seriously? I would have absolutely pooped a brick if CP would have installed anything like the Valravn renderings when I was 12 years old!!! I literally crapped with glee & delight around the same age when they announced Iron Dragon and Thunder Freaking Canyon! * CP has been building a lot of forceless coasters lately * CP should get a GCI and then RMC Mean Streak because they don't currently have any decent wooden coasters (Blue Streak - cough) * 50/50 love/hate for Maverick/Raptor with most people hating both The new roller coaster won't be named Valravn. The parc has abandonned the use of that name because it is now associated with the Raptor incident...Source: magicmountainlover Thought I would add that one to the list as I am still trying to wrap my head around how the Raptor incident would be associated with the new coaster not being named Valravn. So riddle me this... IF! And this is a mighty and stupidly big if... If this were to actually be true (although I am fairly certain that it isn't) and CP is going to scrap a concept that probably took a year or more to design and come up with a new bird designed ride that wouldn't be associated with monsters, evil, death or anything that sounds scary or macabre...what would it be? Robin's Roost? (nope, robins eat worms and that's cruel) Big Snowy Owl? (nope, they eat rodents at night) Duck Hunt? (nope, it would favor shooting of guns/animals & also...Dick Cheney - shudder) Crow's Nest? (nope, crows eat carrion - AKA DEAD ANIMALS!!!) Gosh, I'm stumped...what actually could they rename it where it wouldn't have an evil connotation & people wouldn't associate it with a meat head that died breaking the rules while trying to retrieve his cell phone underneath another roller coaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfelice Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 This. Also I'm really surprised none of you have mentioned, or maybe they don't do this anymore, that using a cell phone on a ride in Ohio is actually illegal - the last few times I've been to KI and CP, the ride ops mentioned it on the overhead on numerous rides and I watched the Gemini op one time stop the blue train about an eighth of the way up the lift hill to walk out on to the track and tell someone to put their phone away. I mean - if it is actually illegal in the state, there really should be repercussions akin to Rob's suggestions. I feel like doing anything else illegal would also get you kicked out of the park. It's not directly illegal in the state of Ohio. What that saying from the ride hosts comes from is the rider safety act which in paraphrased terms says riders my obey all posted and verbal policies of the park. So technically since it is a rule that is posted and verbally communicated to guests, you could twist an argument to say cell phone use is illegal. However, please don't think the authorities are out looking for all of the violators of a park policy. The law is in place for liability reasons. In the end, the ride hosts are being snarky when they say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassinthegrass Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Do we know we're on raptor the incident happened? There are a ton of low spots on the ride... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CW5X Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Gosh, I'm stumped...what actually could they rename it where it wouldn't have an evil connotation & people wouldn't associate it with a meat head that died breaking the rules while trying to retrieve his cell phone underneath another roller coaster? "The vegetraian penguin who was climbing over a rock to find a mate but then fell off the rock twice and began flapping aimlessly about the ice and ending up right back where he started roller coaster" It's not very catchy but you didn't specify how stupid the answer could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdono02 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 This. Also I'm really surprised none of you have mentioned, or maybe they don't do this anymore, that using a cell phone on a ride in Ohio is actually illegal - the last few times I've been to KI and CP, the ride ops mentioned it on the overhead on numerous rides and I watched the Gemini op one time stop the blue train about an eighth of the way up the lift hill to walk out on to the track and tell someone to put their phone away. I mean - if it is actually illegal in the state, there really should be repercussions akin to Rob's suggestions. I feel like doing anything else illegal would also get you kicked out of the park. It's not directly illegal in the state of Ohio. What that saying from the ride hosts comes from is the rider safety act which in paraphrased terms says riders my obey all posted and verbal policies of the park. So technically since it is a rule that is posted and verbally communicated to guests, you could twist an argument to say cell phone use is illegal. However, please don't think the authorities are out looking for all of the violators of a park policy. The law is in place for liability reasons. In the end, the ride hosts are being snarky when they say that. Good to know - because I know I heard multiple ride ops say "It is illegal in the state of Ohio to use a phone/camera while the ride is in operation." My last visit to CP (which was a few years ago) and at KI, (more recently) I heard it on more rides than less, which is why that stuck with me. I was also interested in it because, it seemed awfully specific. Thanks for the clarification. Could be a useful piece of litigation regardless to delve a bit deeper into regarding the aforementioned issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Do we know we're on raptor the incident happened? There are a ton of low spots on the ride... Just before the final flat spin, based upon the images released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnumFreak25 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Really? I thought it was at the base of the cobra roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Right here, to be exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnumFreak25 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Oh, ok. That makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&MIntaminGCI Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I saw this on Facebook and I can't help but have chuckled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I saw this on Facebook and I can't help but have chuckled I know it is a "tragic situation," but ... he did it to himself... I can't help but to ... ALMOST ... not care. I mean, I know that sounds heartless, but seriosuly. . . He knew what he was doing when he climbed the fence. Roller coasters are huge, fast moving, heavy pieces of machinery. I just can't find myself caring much when someone steps into the path of the coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Thrill Dragster Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I saw this on Facebook and I can't help but have chuckled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick_cp Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I saw this on Facebook and I can't help but have chuckled Thank you so much for posting this. this picture is gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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