coloradocoasterguy Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) S&S, ARM Larson, and Intamin are the big three makers of drop towers. What is safer or more reliable magnetic or pneumatic braking? Edited May 12, 2016 by coloradocoasterguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerManic Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I wish Intamin 1st Gens were still made. They are freaking amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianparkfan Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Don't we already have one of these? http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradocoasterguy Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 Don't we already have one of these? http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=191 This is the third topic I searched before starting and the existing post didn't come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 What is safer or more reliable magnetic or pneumatic braking? Magnetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordecai-75 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I don't know if the ARM's are the safest, but by god their terrifying and fun as hell. Every park should have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scbt Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I don't think there is any major difference between the systems. I don't recall ever hearing about a drop tower having a brake failure, although I might be mistaken. The real danger is in maintenance of the systems, not the systems themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I305forever Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 They're all dangerous and you're going to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 They're all dangerous and you're going to die. Which is why I will never ride a drop tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keetz Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I wish Intamin 1st Gens were still made. They are freaking amazing! Me too! I want intamin to combine the concept of the first generation drop tower and merge it with the ZacSpin concept. A 200 foot tall vertical lift, that transfers to a holding brake, and then a drop. At the bottom of the drop you level out and rise into a zacspin style layout. A roller coaster with a drop tower experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 They're all dangerous and you're going to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradocoasterguy Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 I thought pneumatic, like S&S, were held up up by a constant cushion of air so even if the cables failed the carriage wouldn't plummet to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianparkfan Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I wish Intamin 1st Gens were still made. They are freaking amazing! Me too! I want intamin to combine the concept of the first generation drop tower and merge it with the ZacSpin concept. A 200 foot tall vertical lift, that transfers to a holding brake, and then a drop. At the bottom of the drop you level out and rise into a zacspin style layout. A roller coaster with a drop tower experience. Yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeagain? Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I thought pneumatic, like S&S, were held up up by a constant cushion of air so even if the cables failed the carriage wouldn't plummet to the ground. Those pneumatic towers still rely on the cables to somehow connect the cars to the pneumatic system. ARM/Larson towers use large permanent magnets on the cars. So unless something wonky happens to how physics works, they'll always come to a slow crawl before reaching the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simaticable Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I thought pneumatic, like S&S, were held up up by a constant cushion of air so even if the cables failed the carriage wouldn't plummet to the ground. Those pneumatic towers still rely on the cables to somehow connect the cars to the pneumatic system. ARM/Larson towers use large permanent magnets on the cars. So unless something wonky happens to how physics works, they'll always come to a slow crawl before reaching the ground. I know Acrophobia uses magnets as brakes, so I imagine Intamin uses magnets on other drop towers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timetrial3141592 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I thought pneumatic, like S&S, were held up up by a constant cushion of air so even if the cables failed the carriage wouldn't plummet to the ground. Those pneumatic towers still rely on the cables to somehow connect the cars to the pneumatic system. ARM/Larson towers use large permanent magnets on the cars. So unless something wonky happens to how physics works, they'll always come to a slow crawl before reaching the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I thought pneumatic, like S&S, were held up up by a constant cushion of air so even if the cables failed the carriage wouldn't plummet to the ground. Those pneumatic towers still rely on the cables to somehow connect the cars to the pneumatic system. ARM/Larson towers use large permanent magnets on the cars. So unless something wonky happens to how physics works, they'll always come to a slow crawl before reaching the ground. I know Acrophobia uses magnets as brakes, so I imagine Intamin uses magnets on other drop towers as well. Yes, all Intamin gen 2 and up towers use magnetic brake except for Phantasialand's and the indoors one at Lotte World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I remember reading somewhere that Intamin supplied the magnetic fail-safe brakes to Fabbri for their drop towers. I wonder if Intamin supplies the brakes to other drop tower manufacturers as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry M Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I remember reading somewhere that Intamin supplied the magnetic fail-safe brakes to Fabbri for their drop towers. I wonder if Intamin supplies the brakes to other drop tower manufacturers as well? I read that somewhere too, and I would not be surprised if they did sell them to other companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I remember reading somewhere that Intamin supplied the magnetic fail-safe brakes to Fabbri for their drop towers. I wonder if Intamin supplies the brakes to other drop tower manufacturers as well? I read that somewhere too, and I would not be surprised if they did sell them to other companies. I just found where I had read that. It was on Fabbri's website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physical Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Clearly first gen intamin towers. Certainly no overshooting or overheating brake issues to be found on those. On a serious note, I'd say any tower that uses permanent magnetic brakes fitted on the tower. As others have mentioned, unless the laws of physics change, those brakes /will/ stop you before you hit the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickflipbacktail Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I'd say the Intamin magnetic brakes. Anything that can stop a ride vehicle as heavy as Acrophobia's while falling straight down 200 feet is a win in my book. Still the scariest drop ride I've ever been on and it never stops wowing me. Better than Zumanjaro haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFOG1991 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I'd say the Intamin magnetic brakes. Anything that can stop a ride vehicle as heavy as Acrophobia's while falling straight down 200 feet is a win in my book. Still the scariest drop ride I've ever been on and it never stops wowing me. Better than Zumanjaro haha. I haven't been on Zumanjaro (I was there when it was delayed and supposed to be open) but I agree Acrophobia is surprisingly intense with the standing position, tilt, and the stop at the bottom always feels like it engages too late. Scares the hell out of me every time and none of the other Intamin drop rides scare me (except the first gen, RIP to the one at SFOG, but Demon Drop is alive and well anyways). The Larson ones are great too for smaller drop towers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire2box Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 They're all dangerous and you're going to die. Which is why I will never ride a drop tower. it's weird the first drop tower I ever went on is Lex Luthor's drop of Doom at Magic Mountain and i'm scared of heights. While the ride was being lifted to the top of the tower just the wind alone caused the tower to sway. nervous laughter to say the least, but i survived just fine. been on it like at least 4 times now, at least once on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I thought pneumatic, like S&S, were held up up by a constant cushion of air so even if the cables failed the carriage wouldn't plummet to the ground. Those pneumatic towers still rely on the cables to somehow connect the cars to the pneumatic system. ARM/Larson towers use large permanent magnets on the cars. So unless something wonky happens to how physics works, they'll always come to a slow crawl before reaching the ground. I know Acrophobia uses magnets as brakes, so I imagine Intamin uses magnets on other drop towers as well. Yes, all Intamin gen 2 and up towers use magnetic brake except for Phantasialand's and the indoors one at Lotte World. Lotte World's tower is outside now, but putting it near the bigger gyro drop (sadly now with scream shields) does make it very overshadowed and although it is mainly pneumatic it actually has magnetic brakes at the bottom and top in case of emergencies but you are correct in that it doesn't really use them as its main brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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